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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2019, 01:35:10 PM »
Apparently you never had one run over a dog poopie.   :silly:

No, but mine has ran over cat poop (I found out that they will not use their boxes while the Roomba is running, due to fear of it, presumably). Luckily it was very dry at that point.
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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2019, 01:38:32 PM »
No, but mine has ran over cat poop (I found out that they will not use their boxes while the Roomba is running, due to fear of it, presumably). Luckily it was very dry at that point.

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« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2019, 01:56:02 PM »


"They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot"

Obviously, a Roomba isn't a "sentient" version of a robot, but I will attest that they don't hold up well after 5 minutes with a baseball bat.

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« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2019, 02:06:23 PM »

"They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot"

Obviously, a Roomba isn't a "sentient" version of a robot, but I will attest that they don't hold up well after 5 minutes with a baseball bat.

Really?  They do great when left alone at home while being at work and they hit a pile of puppy poo.  Then they run and run and run like Bruce Jenner used to.
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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2019, 02:07:46 PM »
Really?  They do great when left alone at home while being at work and they hit a pile of puppy poo.  Then they run and run and run like Bruce Jenner used to.

Supposedly iRobot is working on a robot that will stop once it detects any dampness whatsoever.
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« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2019, 02:10:12 PM »
Supposedly iRobot is working on a robot that will stop once it detects any dampness whatsoever.

I think they have ones that speed up...

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« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2019, 02:24:51 PM »
Supposedly iRobot is working on a robot that will stop once it detects any dampness whatsoever.

I think there is also a wet-mop version.  I haven't checked out the iRobot web page in a long time.

Meanwhile, an anecdote:

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« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2019, 02:26:54 PM »
I think there is also a wet-mop version.  I haven't checked out the iRobot web page in a long time.

Meanwhile, an anecdote:

https://www.facebook.com/914687145223202/photos/a.917487221609861.1073741829.914687145223202/1616054178419825/?type=3

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« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2019, 02:32:28 PM »
Do robot dogs dream of electric sheep?

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« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2019, 02:36:19 PM »
I think there is also a wet-mop version.  I haven't checked out the iRobot web page in a long time.

Meanwhile, an anecdote:

https://www.facebook.com/914687145223202/photos/a.917487221609861.1073741829.914687145223202/1616054178419825/?type=3

I have the wet mop version from about 10 years ago.  Worked fairly well on tile floors, has a clean water tank and a dirty water tank. 

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« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2019, 02:52:24 PM »
Do robot dogs dream of electric sheep?

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« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2019, 03:00:09 PM »
Just saw this.  There must be a tongue firmly planted in your cheek...that sort of thing doesn't make anybody smarter, just better educated.  We have Colleges graduating educated nitwits all over the country, proving "education" != "intelligence."

A favorite saying of mine:  In the 21st Century, many people have a device in their pockets that allows them access to the entire world's knowledge base.  What do they do with it?  Yell at each other over grammar and punctuation, and post cute videos of kittens (I approve of the kitten part).
I think there is a fundamental difference between information and knowledge. We have lots of information (some of it even true), knowledge is lagging, and wisdom is still on the back stretch.
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« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2019, 03:18:45 PM »
I think there is a fundamental difference between information and knowledge. We have lots of information (some of it even true), knowledge is lagging, and wisdom is still on the back stretch.

Bueno!  Absolutely correct, as usual.
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« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2019, 03:24:31 PM »
I think there is a fundamental difference between information and knowledge. We have lots of information (some of it even true), knowledge is lagging, and wisdom is still on the back stretch.

It's the same with education.  Just because you have managed to adsorb (I chose that word carefully) some information in no way makes you educated   Only when you have learned how to apply that information to the business of living on this planet will you be educated.

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« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2019, 03:26:45 PM »
It's the same with education.  Just because you have managed to adsorb (I chose that word carefully) some information in no way makes you educated   Only when you have learned how to apply that information to the business of living on this planet will you be educated.
You memorize a lot without ever understanding it. It's the understanding that leads to wisdom, not just that things do/do not work, but how and why.
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« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2019, 03:42:52 PM »
Speaking of knowledge, there is something a very large part of the population just won't get.  If some sort of augmentation comes out, like having a neural net or chip implanted in your brain that allows your brain to process information better, or faster,  the vast majority will only get the tech level they can afford. Get it?

There is another misnomer. Average intelligence is merely something they came up with to help people feel about themselves. My observation has been either you have it, or you don't. And no machine will be able to change that.

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« Reply #41 on: February 10, 2019, 03:44:34 PM »
It's the same with education.  Just because you have managed to adsorb (I chose that word carefully) some information in no way makes you educated   Only when you have learned how to apply that information to the business of living on this planet will you be educated.

And when you apply that education to extend knowledge, that's wisdom, thus closing the loop of information vs education vs wisdom.

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« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2019, 03:44:59 PM »
You memorize a lot without ever understanding it. It's the understanding that leads to wisdom, not just that things do/do not work, but how and why.

The moment you touch a hot stove and you know why you were told to never touch a hot stove.

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« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2019, 03:46:47 PM »
Speaking of knowledge, there is something a very large part of the population just won't get.  If some sort of augmentation comes out, like having a neural net or chip implanted in your brain that allows your brain to process information better, or faster,  the vast majority will only get the tech level they can afford. Get it?

An astute observation, my friend.
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« Reply #44 on: February 10, 2019, 04:06:55 PM »
Speaking of knowledge, there is something a very large part of the population just won't get.  If some sort of augmentation comes out, like having a neural net or chip implanted in your brain that allows your brain to process information better, or faster,  the vast majority will only get the tech level they can afford. Get it?

There is another misnomer. Average intelligence is merely something they came up with to help people feel about themselves. My observation has been either you have it, or you don't. And no machine will be able to change that.

 :amen: @bigheadfred.   That is what I have observed as well.

Some,  nay most, people simply cannot understand how a few among us can tell them what the net results of their efforts will be far in advance of them being known.  We have touched on how that can be in the last few posts here.

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« Reply #45 on: February 10, 2019, 04:08:51 PM »
The moment you touch a hot stove and you know why you were told to never touch a hot stove.

And you will discriminate against touching hot stoves forever after.

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« Reply #46 on: February 10, 2019, 04:14:08 PM »
And you will discriminate against touching hot stoves forever after.

Not me!  Nope.  I believe in Continuing Education!  (OWWWW!)
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« Reply #47 on: February 10, 2019, 04:17:46 PM »
And you will discriminate against touching hot stoves forever after.
No, but I learned to hold my hand an inch or so away to feel for heat. (Taught the grandkids that, too).

It has saved a lot of howling and time holding little hands under cold water, and probably half a gallon of tea tree oil.

They don't have to get hurt to get Papa time, and they know it.
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« Reply #48 on: February 10, 2019, 04:18:27 PM »
Not me!  Nope.  I believe in Continuing Education!  (OWWWW!)

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