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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #150 on: February 11, 2019, 07:10:31 PM »
This company wants to grow A.I. by using blockchain

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/17/hanson-robotics-singularitynet-integrate-blockchain-and-artificial-intelligence.html


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In the next phase of artificial intelligence development, the firm behind Sophia the robot — who once said she wanted to destroy humans — is integrating blockchain into its work.

Blockchain....hmmmm...

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"It's a decentralized, open market for AIs in the cloud so anyone who develops an AI can put it into the SingularityNET, wrap it in our cryptocurrency-based smart contract and then the AI they put there can help to serve the intelligence of robots like Sophia or any other robots or any software programs that need AI," he added.

All for nothing. Unplug it and it is gone.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #151 on: February 11, 2019, 07:35:52 PM »
All for nothing. Unplug it and it is gone.

You know better than that.

They have no interest in unplugging it. Goertzel is out there. I've seen him on other vids.

Like Geordie Rose.

Geordie Rose Warns DEMONS Are Coming - Full Talk (Kindred A.I.)

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #152 on: February 11, 2019, 10:57:54 PM »
2017-Days Of The Future Passed @roamer_1  @Smokin Joe

Meet Sophia: The first robot declared a citizen by Saudi Arabia

Sorry...


There are more videos out there. I really like the description of Blockchain.
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #153 on: February 11, 2019, 10:58:51 PM »
Ok. Did some reading about Descartes and Dualism. Mind\Body.

Try a simple test. When they reach the next level--AGI, find out if it can do remote viewing.

Then do the same with ASI.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #154 on: February 11, 2019, 11:30:02 PM »
@roamer_1 I get your point about horses, mules, and dogs, even though I haven't had any experience with mules. Yes, they can communicate (If you can receive their message), through posture and "vocalizations" and actions, and if you understand them, they make their likes, dislikes, desires, and contentment known.  :beer:
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #155 on: February 12, 2019, 09:17:07 AM »
If you upload AI to the cloud, how do you just "pull the plug" on it?

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #156 on: February 12, 2019, 09:52:31 AM »
If you upload AI to the cloud, how do you just "pull the plug" on it?

Pull the plug on the servers?
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #157 on: February 12, 2019, 10:55:58 AM »
Pull the plug on the servers?

Like on the whole damned thing? No more internet. Let's do it.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #158 on: February 12, 2019, 10:59:35 AM »
Like on the whole damned thing? No more internet. Let's do it.

I’d love to go back to the 70s where computers really didn’t exist. I did my best writing on my old IBM selectic typewriter

And robots were in science fiction like Bradbury and Asimov.
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« Reply #159 on: February 12, 2019, 10:59:55 AM »
Like on the whole damned thing? No more internet. Let's do it.

Yeah, you have a point.  I'm sure if plugs get pulled on the specific servers containing the AI software, it could copy itself to other servers...most hacker viruses already do that.
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« Reply #160 on: February 12, 2019, 11:01:28 AM »
Yeah, you have a point.  I'm sure if plugs get pulled on the specific servers containing the AI software, it could copy itself to other servers...most hacker viruses already do that.

You know our kids would be healthier , they would play outside, and the only electronic games they would play would be at the arcade

Remember when Pong cameout?
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« Reply #161 on: February 12, 2019, 11:02:54 AM »
You know our kids would be healthier , they would play outside, and the only electronic games they would play would be at the arcade

Remember when Pong cameout?

Pepperidge Farm remembers, and so do I.  I thought at the time this was going to be trouble.
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #162 on: February 12, 2019, 11:12:21 AM »
You know our kids would be healthier , they would play outside, and the only electronic games they would play would be at the arcade

Remember when Pong cameout?
Heck, a lot of adults would be healthier too!!

I get some kind of screen time report on my phone once a week, I am always happy to see it tell me that my screen time has gone down.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #163 on: February 12, 2019, 11:17:12 AM »
Yeah, you have a point.  I'm sure if plugs get pulled on the specific servers containing the AI software, it could copy itself to other servers...most hacker viruses already do that.

The power grid is probably one of the most vulnerable systems around. I'd like to see what the hierarchy is going to be when it comes to deployment of AI systems.

The only problem I have with AI is trying to humanize it.

The use of it in health care could make for huge changes for people with handicaps. I don't want to see it come to the point where a human is the handicap.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #164 on: February 12, 2019, 11:36:55 AM »
POP. SCIENCE This may be the friendly robot face you see before you die

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,348953.msg1898228.html#msg1898228

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #165 on: February 12, 2019, 12:53:31 PM »
@roamer_1 I get your point about horses, mules, and dogs, even though I haven't had any experience with mules. Yes, they can communicate (If you can receive their message), through posture and "vocalizations" and actions, and if you understand them, they make their likes, dislikes, desires, and contentment known.  :beer:

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #166 on: February 12, 2019, 04:24:09 PM »
If you upload AI to the cloud, how do you just "pull the plug" on it?


It cannot survive IN the cloud. It has to be on a server somewhere... or multiple servers..

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #167 on: February 12, 2019, 05:39:04 PM »

It cannot survive IN the cloud. It has to be on a server somewhere... or multiple servers..

A truly advanced AI could replicate on it's own like a virus, in a peer-to-peer fashion.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #168 on: February 12, 2019, 06:12:37 PM »

It cannot survive IN the cloud. It has to be on a server somewhere... or multiple servers..

Gotcha. But you know anyone who has the means is racing for that god in the machine.

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« Reply #169 on: February 12, 2019, 06:32:10 PM »
A truly advanced AI could replicate on it's own like a virus, in a peer-to-peer fashion.

Doesn't even need to be advanced.  Hackers writing viruses and trojans have been making them self-replicating for as long as there have been viruses and trojans.
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #170 on: February 12, 2019, 07:00:31 PM »
A truly advanced AI could replicate on it's own like a virus, in a peer-to-peer fashion.

right - But like a virus, it can be eradicated, or guarded against.. The idea that once it gets in the cloud, it can live there is rather silly.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #171 on: February 12, 2019, 07:07:08 PM »
Gotcha. But you know anyone who has the means is racing for that god in the machine.

Oh, you can bet the ranch I know that. But that is not how it will go.

You will be enslaved by your conveniences. The easy path, the lesser evil. Just like it is now easier for me to say, "Hey Google - Call @bigheadfred ," instead of looking up the number. Funny that... I used to remember maybe a couple hundred phone numbers in my head... Now that I am so electronically plugged in, I remember none. And so it goes. That is how they will get you.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #172 on: February 12, 2019, 07:11:39 PM »
Doesn't even need to be advanced.  Hackers writing viruses and trojans have been making them self-replicating for as long as there have been viruses and trojans.

Yes, but because of that, most everywhere is hardened against that behavior... Again, releasing AI to the cloud meaning it can't be eradicated is a false idea.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #173 on: February 12, 2019, 07:15:40 PM »
right - But like a virus, it can be eradicated, or guarded against.. The idea that once it gets in the cloud, it can live there is rather silly.

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