@Smokin Joe
When the fetus has developed enough to survive outside the womb. Even then it isn't a baby UNTIL it is living outside the womb any more than a corpse is a human.
But you don't want to hear that.
So you don't consider partial birth abortion a problem?
They pull those kids out backwards to fall under the category of 'not outside' yet, cut a hole in the base of their skull and suck the brains out before they pull the head out.
How about the one that goes full term in NY, and is just an inch or two from seeing daylight?
The 10 pounder (10+lb babies are pretty common in our family, the twins were an exception at 1lb 10 oz and 3 lbs 8 oz) who hangs up and has to come out by C-section isn't a baby?
Just getting your definitions clear (not that I necessarily agree).
At what point is killing the mother with a baby inside a double homicide?
Or does the baby have to be killed outside to be another homicide?
(Forget, for a second, New York's "legal" definition. There is an awful lot of stuff New York's government and I would disagree about.)
