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New York's abortion law, the so-called Reproductive Health Act, gave some judicial relief to a man accused of murdering his pregnant girlfriend, according to the New York Post.

Anthony Hobson turned himself in to authorities on Friday, facing second-degree murder charges in the stabbing death of 35-year-old Jennifer Irigoyen, who was five months pregnant.

Hobson was initially going to be charged with second-degree abortion in addition to the murder charge, but because the criminal charge of abortion was repealed by Gov. Andrew Cuomo's abortion law, Hobson avoids the additional charge.

Read more here: https://www.theblaze.com/news/new-yorks-late-term-abortion-law-did-an-accused-murderer-a-favor
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Here you go @sneakypete . It’s official, a murderer will go free early because what his girlfriend was pregnant with wasn’t a baby. I bet you are wearing a nasty woman T-shirt right now.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2019, 03:22:41 pm by goodwithagun »
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Here you go @sneakypete . It’s official, a murderer will go free early because what his girlfriend was pregnant with wasn’t a baby. I bet you are wearing a nasty woman T-shirt right now.

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I get no joy from trying to discuss anything with the emotionally unbalanced,so have fun with your Holy Spook fantasies.
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I get no joy from trying to discuss anything with the emotionally unbalanced,so have fun with your Holy Spook fantasies.
Where did the poster mention any supernatural force, Pete?

Seems the only holy spook fantasies are the straw men you are waving.

If that's all you got, you're working for the wrong spook.
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I get no joy from trying to discuss anything with the emotionally unbalanced,so have fun with your Holy Spook fantasies.

Um, religion wasn’t even mentioned. Protecting baby murder is getting to you.
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Um, religion wasn’t even mentioned. Protecting baby murder is getting to you.

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It doesn't have to be mentioned,it is always lurking in the background every time abortion is mentioned.

Or are you going to try to claim you are not religious?
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Or are you going to try to claim you are not religious?

I certainly will not, it is part of what makes me value life, from the physically unborn precious child to the fellow old Briefer that needs prayer cause they just went to the hospital. Because God values my life, and promised forgiveness, no matter how sorry I was in the past. I have hope for you Sneaky, cause every soul is valuable... and others care to, even if you spend your last days spitting at us. So be it, it is a love worth being spit at for. Lash away if you feel you must, I pray you can forgive whomever hurt you enough to act so.
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And there are atheists and agnostics that are pro-life.

Let's not forget, atheists have a low reproduction rate, so the joke is on them if they want to laugh about religion, they do not have a population replacement rate. One could even say that about Russia which could go under a severe demographic change. Heck, Islam really has it built in with multiple wives. Buddhism is against abortion. There is an argument as to whether Buddhism actually believes in Supreme beings.

http://www.thinkatheist.com/forum/topics/atheism-fertility-and-declining-birthrates

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/atheists-dying-out-contraception-claims-study-a7626846.html
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Atheists at risk of dying out due to belief in contraception, study claims
Religious people are having more babies

    Rachel Hosie
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A new study has suggested that atheism is doomed because religious people have higher rates of reproduction.

Due to their lack of belief in contraception, religious believers are having more children than atheists, which could ultimately result in the end of atheism, the study suggests.

The findings fly in the face of popular discourse - and scientists’ predictions - which implies fewer and fewer people are religious nowadays.

Dalai Lama:   https://skeptiko.com/63-is-the-dalai-lama-an-atheist-dr-alan-wallace/

Whether Buddhism is atheistic is a debated topic but the Dalai Lama has said it and again, repeating, Buddhists are pro-life.

There are also a lot of alleged Christians that defend abortion, so, I wouldn't make absolute blanket statements too much.
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It doesn't have to be mentioned,it is always lurking in the background every time abortion is mentioned.

Or are you going to try to claim you are not religious?

But it wasn’t this time; therefore, you have no way to argue for baby murder since you can’t use religion as deflection. Check mate, bitch.
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But it wasn’t this time; therefore, you have no way to argue for baby murder since you can’t use religion as deflection. Check mate, bitch.

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I don't argue for the murder of babies,and you are a liar if you try to make that claim.
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If an atheist can be against abortion for reasons other than religious faith - and we know that's quite possible - why assume that any other person who opposes abortion is doing so because of (and I quote) "Holy Spook fantasies" and being "emotionally unbalanced"? It really is possible to discuss this issue without insulting people.
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I don't argue for the murder of babies,and you are a liar if you try to make that claim.

I’ll not copy/paste all your posts. They’re already here in black and white.
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I’ll not copy/paste all your posts. They’re already here in black and white.

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Quote me on ONE post where I advocate murdering babies,or admit you are a liar.
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Come on, let's get back to the horrendous article posted above. That this man could go unpunished for killing an unborn child makes a mockery of criminal law. Thanks, Andy Cuomo.
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I don't argue for the murder of babies,and you are a liar if you try to make that claim.
I guess that depends on the definition of "baby".

Where does life begin, pete?

Conception?

With the first heartbeat?

With the first breath?

Pop the little nipper right into a tub of water, hold them down, and they are never a baby?

Keep their head stuffed in there, and suck their brains out, but because the never got a lungful of air, they weren't a baby? 
These are serious questions.
Where would you define the cutoff?
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Quote me on ONE post where I advocate murdering babies,or admit you are a liar.

Well there’s this thread http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,350736.75.html where you repeatedly advocate for baby murder. Every time you make the case somebody blows your logic out of the water, so then you attempt to move the goal posts.
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I guess that depends on the definition of "baby".

Where does life begin, pete?

Conception?

With the first heartbeat?

With the first breath?

Pop the little nipper right into a tub of water, hold them down, and they are never a baby?

Keep their head stuffed in there, and suck their brains out, but because the never got a lungful of air, they weren't a baby? 
These are serious questions.
Where would you define the cutoff?

Progressive Pete thinks it begins at birth certificate. Not joking. http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,350736.150.html
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I guess that depends on the definition of "baby".

Where does life begin, pete?


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When the fetus has developed enough to survive outside the womb. Even then it isn't a baby UNTIL it is living outside the womb any more than a corpse is a human.

But you don't want to hear that.
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Well there’s this thread http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,350736.75.html where you repeatedly advocate for baby murder. Every time you make the case somebody blows your logic out of the water, so then you attempt to move the goal posts.

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Ok,you have just established that you are a liar. Own it.
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