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And you're shading with cherry picking. The Mueller appointment didn't happen in a vacuum, and there was far less known about the dossier and many other things Clinton.

That's why the Dems and their allies moved so quickly, starting with Flynn. They wanted to stop something before it's started. They knew the dossier shenanigans and their connection to Clinton would come out.

Paint the sky whatever color you want, but it doesn't fit the reality of the situation.


Trump fired Flynn (who is a lifelong democrat), for lying to Pence, months before Mueller was appointed. The FBI didn’t charge him, Mueller did, many months, later, after Flynn began to voluntarily sing. Flynn knew he had lied and began offering Mueller information almost immediately upon being questioned. Neither he, nor his son, were threatened with indictment to secure his cooperation. We know this, because his attorney stated it in the plea agreement filing for sentencing. Mueller charged him with lying, despite the other options he had. It was the least of the potential charges and he recommended no jail time, because of the extensive information Flynn provided. So much for being railroaded. That’s the reality.
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Trump fired Flynn (who is a lifelong democrat), for lying to Pence, months before Mueller was appointed. The FBI didn’t charge him, Mueller did, many months, later, after Flynn began to voluntarily sing. Flynn knew he had lied and began offering Mueller information almost immediately upon being questioned. Neither he, nor his son, were threatened with indictment to secure his cooperation. We know this, because his attorney stated it in the plea agreement filing for sentencing. Mueller charged him with lying, despite the other options he had. It was the least of the potential charges and he recommended no jail time, because of the extensive information Flynn provided. So much for being railroaded. That’s the reality.

The media was after Flynn long before he 'lied' to Pence, as were the Dems. The investigation started long before Trump as even elected, it just became official a few months after he was inaugurated.

All of which originated with Hillary and Obama DOJ/FBI assets obssessed with setting up the Prez. Don't act like Mueller was the beginning of the show.

They kept up the pressure to keep Hillary off the radar, pure and simple.
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The media was after Flynn long before he 'lied' to Pence, as were the Dems. The investigation started long before Trump as even elected, it just became official a few months after he was inaugurated.

All of which originated with Hillary and Obama DOJ/FBI assets obssessed with setting up the Prez. Don't act like Mueller was the beginning of the show.

They kept up the pressure to keep Hillary off the radar, pure and simple.


OK, so which is it? Either Trump outright lied during the campaign about assigning a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary or they got to him with this so-called pressure.  I’m going to say he’s just a liar. You can stick with pressure, if you want. However, keep in mind that the pressure would only work if he was actually compromised, in some way.
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OK, so which is it? Either Trump outright lied during the campaign about assigning a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary or they got to him with this so-called pressure.  I’m going to say he’s just a liar. You can stick with pressure, if you want. However, keep in mind that the pressure would only work if he was actually compromised, in some way.

Nice false dichotomy, but the reality is, the first thing out of his mouth starting his Presidency is not to go after Hillary via the DOJ.

Which was probably a tactical mistake, because the Dems took the opening to go after him.
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Nice false dichotomy, but the reality is, the first thing out of his mouth starting his Presidency is not to go after Hillary via the DOJ.

Which was probably a tactical mistake, because the Dems took the opening to go after him.

True ... the fact still remains though that it was Trump who appointed Rosenstein.  HUGE mistake.  Still not quite sure why he did so.
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Nice false dichotomy, but the reality is, the first thing out of his mouth starting his Presidency is not to go after Hillary via the DOJ.

Correct.  Trump lied about pursuing Hitlery's crimes until he got elected...then he told his zombie throng to shut up.  Dumb suckers.  Guess what?  The wall was a lie too.
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Nice false dichotomy, but the reality is, the first thing out of his mouth starting his Presidency is not to go after Hillary via the DOJ.

Which was probably a tactical mistake, because the Dems took the opening to go after him.


It’s only a false dichotomy, if you completely ignore the ‘lock her up’ chants and famous special counsel statement from the debate, which I’ve already mentioned.
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The bottomline....there is mass corruption afoot.

Trump in many cases is his own worst enemy when it comes to selecting people to work for him in government.  That is in large part why he keeps his family close, for they are the only folks he trusts.

Is is only a matter of time before he claims every other day something wrong about his latest AG pick.

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Comey didn’t brief him on the dossier until January. He didn’t dump Sessions for someone who would investigate her. Mueller wasn’t appointed until May. He was never serious or had any intention of following through. You were duped and continue to be played by his occasional resurrection of the subject on Twitter.
That is true. It was reported that Sessions sent his resignation to Trump after he realized that he was unable to do the tasks of USAG. Trump refused his resignation knowing that Sessions was never going to touch Hillary or any other Democrat. That clearly shows that Trump never had any intention of investigating anything connected to the Clinton Cartel.

It is possible that after the election, Hillary or one of her operatives showed Trump all the dirt the Clinton Blackmail Machine had on him. She didn't do this before the election because she wanted him to run. Every Democrat in the entire country was sure Trump would lose and Hillary would win with 99% of the vote.
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The 'government corruption' is basically investigating themselves.

That's the answer.
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It is possible that after the election, Hillary or one of her operatives showed Trump all the dirt the Clinton Blackmail Machine had on him. She didn't do this before the election because she wanted him to run. Every Democrat in the entire country was sure Trump would lose and Hillary would win with 99% of the vote.


After the Access Hollywood tape came out, Trump said it wasn’t any worse than things Bill had said to him on the golf course. Given their previous relationship, I often wondered if a MAD scenario existed between them.
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