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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-farming-nutrien/u-s-farm-finances-relatively-stable-despite-china-trade-war-nutrien-idUSKCN1PW23T

(Reuters) - U.S. farmers are in “relatively stable” financial health despite a bruising trade war between the United States and China that has weakened crop prices, the chief executive of farm supplier Nutrien Ltd said on Thursday.

Farmer bankruptcies in 2018 were lower than the previous year, and below the 10-year average, CEO Chuck Magro said on a quarterly conference call.

Farmers’ increasing debt is largely due to purchases of land, the value of which has been firm, he said. Nutrien has also seen an increase this year in pre-payments for crop inputs such as seed, fertilizer and chemicals.
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Re: U.S. farm finances 'relatively stable' despite China Trade War: Nutrien
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2019, 01:12:23 AM »
So the 4th quarter GDP was spectacular despite us being told it would be a disaster because of the shut down and now farms are doing fine when we were told it would be rain on the scarecrow blood on the plow because of the trade war. We don't get news anymore. We get DNC talking points.

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Re: U.S. farm finances 'relatively stable' despite China Trade War: Nutrien
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2019, 01:28:24 AM »
Soy bean tariffs were gonna be the end of the Universe.

As if farmers here were too stupid to plant something else even IF that had happened.

Look at China's housing mkt.  :beer:

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Re: U.S. farm finances 'relatively stable' despite China Trade War: Nutrien
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2019, 08:18:03 AM »
We’ll just gloss right over the fact billions in government farm aid was necessary to achieve the ‘relatively stable’ conditions.
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Re: U.S. farm finances 'relatively stable' despite China Trade War: Nutrien
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2019, 08:29:42 AM »
We’ll just gloss right over the fact billions in government farm aid was necessary to achieve the ‘relatively stable’ conditions.

And the growing menace China presents with their dreams of Hegemony. Gloss right over that too while we're at it.
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Re: U.S. farm finances 'relatively stable' despite China Trade War: Nutrien
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2019, 08:58:43 AM »
And the growing menace China presents with their dreams of Hegemony. Gloss right over that too while we're at it.


Correct. We should completely ignore their S. China Sea ambitions and claims behind the Nine Dash Line. While we’re at it, we’ll also overlook their large contracts for Iranian oil, ownership of Ukrainian farmland, expansion into Africa and South America, along with investment in Latin America. The cherry on top would be control over both ports in the Panama Canal by a Beijing friendly company, Hutchinson Whampoa.

Though, I’m not entirely certain what that has to do with the farm bill, bailing out the damage from the soybean tariff.

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https://asia.nikkei.com/Economy/Trade-War/China-to-ignore-US-demand-for-Iran-oil-ban

https://www.reuters.com/article/china-ukraine-idUSL3N0HI04620130922

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Re: U.S. farm finances 'relatively stable' despite China Trade War: Nutrien
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2019, 09:07:52 AM »
So the 4th quarter GDP was spectacular despite us being told it would be a disaster because of the shut down and now farms are doing fine when we were told it would be rain on the scarecrow blood on the plow because of the trade war. We don't get news anymore. We get DNC talking points.

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Re: U.S. farm finances 'relatively stable' despite China Trade War: Nutrien
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2019, 09:20:41 AM »
So the 4th quarter GDP was spectacular despite us being told it would be a disaster because of the shut down and now farms are doing fine when we were told it would be rain on the scarecrow blood on the plow because of the trade war. We don't get news anymore. We get DNC talking points.


Uh....no. The shutdown occurred late in the year, so 4th quarter growth was not expected to be affected. It was 1st Quarter growth. Who said so? It was the White House and Trump’s economic advisor, Larry Kudlow.


The White House now expects the funding lapse to sap 0.1 percentage point from GDP growth every week it lasts, double the administration's initial estimate of the economic damage. While the effect on fourth-quarter 2018 GDP may prove small, the shutdown could knock a chunk off first-quarter 2019 growth.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/22/trump-advisor-larry-kudlow-gdp-damage-from-government-shutdown-is-temporary.html


The real effects of the tariff were the reason the farm bill and financial aid was given to soybean farmers.


"I talked to the President as recently as last night," Perdue said. "And he said, 'Sonny, you can assure your farmers out there that we're not going to allow them to be the casualties if this trade dispute escalates. We're going to take care of our American farmers. You can tell them that directly."

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-tariff-soybeans-blow-to-donald-trump-voters-states-2018-4

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