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I don't know. Why don't you eat one and get back with us on that?

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You’re a $&*#ing lunatic. Get help.

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What does the Big Guy in the Sky think of you using language like that?
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What does the Big Guy in the Sky think of you using language like that?

Nice deflection from defending baby killing.
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Even if I did not have faith that God existed, I would still be pro life.

In other words, there are good and moral reasons to oppose taking the life of a baby because of it’s inconvenience, that are outside of religious objections.
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The one thing the left and the religious right share is a love of dogma. Neither will EVER admit to even the possibility of being wrong.

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I would rather err on the side of innocent life. Also I am not in the least religious.
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The State of Louisiana can already regulate hospitals out of existence because of safety.  They can also regulate factories, movie theaters, chemical plants, schools, and even your own house out of existence because of safety.  Why is an abortion clinic any different?

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Lots of emotional responses, understandably so, when the issue of abortion comes up, and the usual hand wringing over Roberts....

If the US Congress did its job and passed legislation that said jurisdiction in abortion cases rests with the individual states and not the Federal Courts, then Roberts would find that statute Constitutional and would support it....  :shrug:

There would be no need to overturn Roe and individual States could deal with the issue...

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Isn't this Roberts a gem. I want to be the first to say how awesome GW Bush is for nominating this piece of shit.

Seems every Republican POTUS makes this 'mistake'.

Stevens, Souter, Kennedy, Roberts.

We were ALL cheering the Roberts' nomination at the time.   We were all fooled.

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Seems every Republican POTUS makes this 'mistake'.

Stevens, Souter, Kennedy, Roberts.

We were ALL cheering the Roberts' nomination at the time.   We were all fooled.

You can say that again...so disappointed in him...especially since he and his wife adopted their children you would think he would be more sensitive to the issue.
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You can say that again...so disappointed in him...especially since he and his wife adopted their children you would think he would be more sensitive to the issue.

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Did you read the article at the link I posted above?
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You can say that again...so disappointed in him...especially since he and his wife adopted their children you would think he would be more sensitive to the issue.

I don't think "the issue" enters his mind.   Quite simply, he's being blackmailed.

Something in the adoption records or process...he loves his children and doesn't want the "real mother" or father coming forward making it a global circus.  It would destroy their lives forever.

Goddamned right, it's a "tax"!   Whatever you say? 
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Did you read the article at the link I posted above?

No I was replying to DC's post.....link please
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No I was replying to DC's post.....link please

edited...after checking your link yes I have read that article a couple of years ago at another site..very interesting..
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edited...after checking your link yes I have read that article a couple of years ago at another site..very interesting..

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Isn't this Roberts a gem. I want to be the first to say how awesome GW Bush is for nominating this piece of shit.
Sorry you are not the first, not even close to being the first.
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If the US Congress did its job and passed legislation that said jurisdiction in abortion cases rests with the individual states and not the Federal Courts

We already have a Constitution that does exactly that.  If Roberts won't respect the Constitution, then he won't respect any law.


Lots of emotional responses, understandably so, when the issue of abortion comes up

Exactly.  There is no point in arguing for or against abortion when our endowed right to self-determination as a society is being denied.  The real issue here is that we as members of society are prohibited from determining our own abortion laws by a tyrannical judiciary with zero regard to the Constitution of the United States of America.
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We already have a Constitution that does exactly that.  If Roberts won't respect the Constitution, then he won't respect any law.


Exactly.  There is no point in arguing for or against abortion when our endowed right to self-determination as a society is being denied.  The real issue here is that we as members of society are prohibited from determining our own abortion laws by a tyrannical judiciary with zero regard to the Constitution of the United States of America.
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Nice deflection from defending baby killing.

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WHAT baby? Show us the birth certificate,or STFU about it.
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Seems every Republican POTUS makes this 'mistake'.

 

We were ALL cheering the Roberts' nomination at the time.   We were all fooled.

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I wasn't. I was calling him a closeted homo that would do and say whatever his handlers told him to do and say on FR,and the Bush-Bots were losing their minds over it.
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I don't think "the issue" enters his mind.   Quite simply, he's being blackmailed.

 

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And there it is.
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It's a human being.

It is a developing, pre-viable human being,  that as a biological reality is under the complete dominion and control of the mother.   

The question isn't whether it's a potential human being.  Of course it is.   The question is who gets to decide whether the woman will bear it.   The woman herself, or the government?

The correct answer is the woman,  with the wise counsel of her loved ones and her spiritual community. 

Not the government.   
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WHAT baby? Show us the birth certificate,or STFU about it.

None of my grandparents had birth certificates. Your logic means we could have aborted them and gotten their savings before the nursing home did.
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It is a developing, pre-viable human being,  that as a biological reality is under the complete dominion and control of the mother.   

The question isn't whether it's a potential human being.  Of course it is.   The question is who gets to decide whether the woman will bear it.   The woman herself, or the government?

The correct answer is the woman,  with the wise counsel of her loved ones and her spiritual community. 

Not the government.

Yet the government pays for abortions.
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None of my grandparents had birth certificates. Your logic means we could have aborted them and gotten their savings before the nursing home did.

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So what? That was then,this is now. Everybody born in the US in the last couple of generations have birth certificates. You can't even enroll a child in school if they don't have a birth certificate.

Did your grandpartents live to draw SS? If they did,they had birth certificates.
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So what? That was then,this is now. Everybody born in the US in the last couple of generations have birth certificates. You can't even enroll a child in school if they don't have a birth certificate.

Did your grandpartents live to draw SS? If they did,they had birth certificates.

Keep moving those goal posts Progressive Pete.
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