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The black race is about 14 % in America, but do more than 70% of the crime.  Do you think some will get shot, in the process of a crime?   Any black person shot while being INNOCENT..I do not support, however, all crimes where it is a black person shot by police, it is on the CRIMINAL not police.  Having riots for the criminals does NOT make them innocent of the crime.

South Africa, is killing, torturing, burning, raping white people to get them to give up their farm land for ZERO compensation.  Who is wanting genocide?  BLACK RACE. We already have Haiti as one example.   ALWAYS BACKWARDS BY THE LEFT THINKERS.

Again, white liberals, lefts are nuts, if they think supporting kneelers or other Make Believe issue will 'save them" being killed by black race. IT WON'T. YOUR SKIN WILL INDICT YOU.

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How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression


There are no "Socialists", no "Progressives", only Communists, with every negative image that totalitarianism might muster, demanding fealty and conformity to their views, with a legacy of 150,000,000 dead and counting.

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Minneapolis?

There is a difference between Liberia and Minneapolis?
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There is a difference between Liberia and Minneapolis?
Minneapolis is colder....and farther from the ocean.
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression


There are no "Socialists", no "Progressives", only Communists, with every negative image that totalitarianism might muster, demanding fealty and conformity to their views, with a legacy of 150,000,000 dead and counting.

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Been saying it for years, it's the mixed-blacks that are the worst, because they feel they have to overcompensate to prove that they belong with "The Tribe".


Is that it?  Makes sense, as everyone with major race issues is mixed. Obama, Eric Holder, Cory Booker, Naginza pf New black panthers.  A totally black man in Africa is just happy. Same with mixed race women in congress.

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Should have picked our own damned cotton.

They did!  Black business owners, had black and  white slaves.  History does not want to tell you that. 
Then for XENA LEE;  IRISH WERE SLAVES...and treated worse than black slaves as blacks cost more. Irish women were made to breed with black males to produce another "black'  slave. Cheaper for them.   

THE SLAVES THAT TIME FORGOT....BY MARTIN.  Can't remember his full name. ( John, Tom? ). I will google.

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Like all article's now, they want to erase THIS HISTORY.  They play word games, like with the 'wall" Barrier". WHITE SLAVES.
They claim indentured. SAME TREATMENT AS BLACKS. WORD GAMES.
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The Slaves That Time Forgot

By John Martin

They came as slaves; vast human cargo transported on tall British ships bound for the Americas. They were shipped by the hundreds of thousands and included men, women, and even the youngest of children.

Whenever they rebelled or even disobeyed an order, they were punished in the harshest ways. Slave owners would hang their human property by their hands and set their hands or feet on fire as one form of punishment. They were burned alive and had their heads placed on pikes in the marketplace as a warning to other captives.

We don’t really need to go through all of the gory details, do we? After all, we know all too well the atrocities of the African slave trade. But, are we talking about African slavery?

King James II and Charles I led a continued effort to enslave the Irish. Britain’s famed Oliver Cromwell furthered this practice of dehumanizing one’s next door neighbor.

The Irish slave trade began when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves.

Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white.

From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain’s solution was to auction them off as well.

During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers.

Many people today will avoid calling the Irish slaves what they truly were: Slaves. They’ll come up with terms like “Indentured Servants” to describe what occurred to the Irish. However, in most cases from the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish slaves were nothing more than human cattle.

As an example, the African slave trade was just beginning during this same period. It is well recorded that African slaves, not tainted with the stain of the hated Catholic theology and more expensive to purchase, were often treated far better than their Irish counterparts.

African slaves were very expensive during the late 1600s (50 Sterling). Irish slaves came cheap (no more than 5 Sterling). If a planter whipped or branded or beat an Irish slave to death, it was never a crime. A death was a monetary setback, but far cheaper than killing a more expensive African.

The English masters quickly began breeding the Irish women for both their own personal pleasure and for greater profit. Children of slaves were themselves slaves, which increased the size of the master’s free workforce. Even if an Irish woman somehow obtained her freedom, her kids would remain slaves of her master. Thus, Irish moms, even with this new found emancipation, would seldom abandon their kids and would remain in servitude.

In time, the English thought of a better way to use these women (in many cases, girls as young as 12) to increase their market share: The settlers began to breed Irish women and girls with African men to produce slaves with a distinct complexion. These new “mulatto” slaves brought a higher price than Irish livestock and, likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African slaves.

This practice of interbreeding Irish females with African men went on for several decades and was so widespread that, in 1681, legislation was passed “forbidding the practice of mating Irish slave women to African slave men for the purpose of producing slaves for sale.” In short, it was stopped only because it interfered with the profits of a large slave transport company.

England continued to ship tens of thousands of Irish slaves for more than a century. Records state that, after the 1798 Irish Rebellion, thousands of Irish slaves were sold to both America and Australia.

There were horrible abuses of both African and Irish captives. One British ship even dumped 1,302 slaves into the Atlantic Ocean so that the crew would have plenty of food to eat.

There is little question that the Irish experienced the horrors of slavery as much (if not more in the 17th Century) as the Africans did. There is, also, very little question that those brown, tanned faces you witness in your travels to the West Indies are very likely a combination of African and Irish ancestry.

In 1839, Britain finally decided on it’s own to end it’s participation in Satan’s highway to hell and stopped transporting slaves. While their decision did not stop pirates from doing what they desired, the new law slowly concluded THIS chapter of nightmarish Irish misery.

But, if anyone, black or white, believes that slavery was only an African experience, then they’ve got it completely wrong.

Irish slavery is a subject worth remembering, not erasing from our memories. But, where are our public (and PRIVATE) schools???? Where are the history books? Why is it so seldom discussed?

Do the memories of hundreds of thousands of Irish victims merit more than a mention from an unknown writer? Or is their story to be one that their English pirates intended: To (unlike the African book) have the Irish story utterly and completely disappear as if it never happened.

None of the Irish victims ever made it back to their homeland to describe their ordeal. These are the lost slaves; the ones that time and biased history books conveniently forgot.

http://afgen.com/forgotten_slaves.html

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SEPTEMBER 2, 2018 AT 12:28 PM
The reason the Irish were indentured servants and not called slaves was in the 1700s slavery was declared illegal in the UK by judge mansfield…go see the movie ‘Bell’…..So they got around by different means, calling them pows, convicts, rebels, and or indentured servants.

The idea of white slavery does not fit with all the BS about the founding fathers…The gov of virginia had 2/3 black and 1/3 white slaves for example and except for the Adam’s the founding fathers were ...



DECEMBER 6, 2018 AT 9:57 PM
But it’s still going on in N.E. my Irish grandma all of us grandkids trafficked and forced to produce kids with men afainst our will then they steal our kids again. We are denied medical, lawyers, jobs, it’s better masked though but present.


SEPTEMBER 18, 2018 AT 2:34 PM
For those who fails to accept the truth being told by the writer, let me personally tell you for sure, I know for a fact that what the writer is telling the world is the truth. I was born in one of those Islands namely Montserrat, W.I, My ancestry was some the Irish slaves that the English Hauled away from there homeland. I know some people refuses to accept the truth no matter what, but I could care less if you accept the truth or not. May God forgive those who treat human beings as slaves.


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JANUARY 7, 2018 AT 9:07 AM
Thank you for sharing this unfortunate history of Irish slavery; none of this information was included world history classes taught in US public schools. So sad! ??



JANUARY 8, 2018 AT 4:41 PM
I see there are posts stating that this is a myth and that there were no Irish white slaves – I reposted your original story on my facebook page and would like to know what record of proof exists to back this article if any



JANUARY 25, 2018 AT 9:42 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/us/irish-slaves-myth.amp.html
That is a new York times article allegedly debunking the myth.
However, just as in the above article says “they will try to call it indentured servitude ”
The NYT describes everything above, right down to children not having freedom even if the mother does…but they say it isnt slavery because Indentured Servitude.
It’s a myth only via jargon, not practice.



FEBRUARY 19, 2018 AT 8:53 PM
That was Liam Hogan and he can be blown up rather easily.You only needed to be 1/8th Black to be considered a slave and not an indentured servant and that was only if you could find your way to a court in the North.



JANUARY 25, 2018 AT 3:55 PM
Travel to some of the Islands of the southern Caribbean and take the tours. Many of them will tell you about the history of the Irish slaves on their Island. St. Kitts still has an area of the island they call Irish Town because that is where many of the Irish Slaves build their homes after they were released.


JANUARY 28, 2018 AT 7:51 PM
Search: ( links get rejected as spam )
The Irish of Barbados ( Irish America website )
Irish indentured labour in the Caribbean
( National Archives Gov UK Website )
Look into Cromwell and King James


MARCH 24, 2018 AT 9:10 PM
I actually know someone whose grandmother was an Irish slave. Not a myth.


MAY 30, 2018 AT 4:49 AM
Endemic within Americas history relating to facts concerning Oliver Cromwell’s Genocide against the Irish people living and dying in Ireland under the principle of extermination at all costs is historical factual evidence supported across the mediums of historically claimed events and times linking to the transportation of people with a different belief system claimed as protestants, which was not what the establishment of the clergy wanted . Hence the enslavement of a species known as protestants of white Irish ,ist remnants of slavery into the American colonies of death and disease in the 1600s


MAY 30, 2018 AT 9:12 AM
They don’t put it in the history books because if they did it would take away the “difference”. they cant have us fighting together for the same cause; that ruins their game (3 richest families in the world) everyone was and still is cattle to them except their little clubby members (believe me we’re not invited). Why do you think racism is being pushed so hard. Accommodations have changed but the game hasn’t . Keep us busy fighting (and fearing) each other and we’ll never know we’re being lead to the slaughter. They know what they”re doing .



I am appalled that this history has not been taught put in the mainstream it has been clearly and systematically wiped out of mainstream disgrace ! Can someone make a oscar winning movie please !! This Irish -Scottish history. Needs to be OUT THERE !!’


SEPTEMBER 19, 2018 AT 3:01 PM
They have survived. Their descendants live in the West Indies today. Google Redlegs.


SEPTEMBER 14, 2018 AT 6:47 PM
THANK YOU! Being Irish and Scots-Irish, I am almost 100 percent sure at least one or two of my ancestors were either indentured servants or outright white slaves. If ANY Afro-American EVER asks me for “reparations” when NO ONE in my ancestry ever owned black slaves and I certainly didn’t, I will tell them to shove it up their butts! With today’s SJWs and the promotion of so-called white guilt, it is about time someone besides Michael Hoffman (author of “They Were White and They Were Slaves”) brought this issue up. I learned about indentured servitude in grade school, but I doubt if they mention it any more. The truth of this is too politically incorrect, isn’t it. And thrilled a Rastafarian posted this…long live Bob Marley!

SEPTEMBER 14, 2018 AT 8:40 PM
Yes, much like the the thousands of British working class that were also ‘deported’ to the colonies – US, Australia, etc. Labeling all ‘Brits’ as oppressors is quite retarded. I have way more in common with the Irish working class than any of the effeminate British ‘elites’.



DECEMBER 10, 2018 AT 3:42 PM
If this article is truth, and I’m quite positive that it is, it’s time to expose snopes yet again for their own BS. And now they’re asking for donations to keep the lies coming.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/irish-slaves-early-america/

Revisionist history at it’s finest apparently.
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Revisionist history at it’s finest apparently.

I like *personal insult removed*
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