UPDATE: CNN Hid Images and Video of Roger Stone’s 72-Year-Old Wife Being Dragged Out of Home Barefoo

[Cyber Liberty]

Yeah, that's just one of the lies the idiot left pushes.   But we know better.

Truth is.... Democrats get away with their crimes and are treated with kid gloves by the media AND by our intel agencies and law enforcement.   Almost like they are special people... far superior to anyone on the right.   

It's because, to the "press," Rats (the Party that fought a losing war to keep their slaves) are on the "correct" side of History and Pubbies are not.

[Sanguine]

And he's supposed to be the straight line from which we measure guilt or innocence.  It's like trying to hang drywall on an unlevel floor and crooked studs.

It takes an almost fanatical belief in Mueller's infallibility to take his side on each and every controversy.   I'm having trouble believing a single thing he says!

Mueller isn't plumb.

[Wingnut]

Mueller isn't plumb.

Correct.  He is at minimum a half bubble off.

[XenaLee]

No, we’re at the point where in two previous instances, people have screamed ‘abuse’ about FBI arrests/searches and the actions produced evidence, convictions, and plea deals. So, if I have to choose between Mueller or Stone over who’s right and who’s wrong, it’s not particularly difficult. Just like the Manafort case, don’t be surprised when subsequent superseding indictments are filed against Stone.

You're either refusing or are incapable of seeing my point here.   I'm putting myself in her (Stone's wife) place.... which is probably what everyone should do if/when something like this happens.  Because sooner or later... this same abuse can and will occur to us or someone in our family.

Roger Stone: They did. I was made to stand in the street, handcuffed and in bare feet. They brought my wife out in her nightgown and also in bare feet to stand next to me even though she's not accused of any crime.

https://www.tapwires.com/2019/01/29/cnn-hid-this-fbi-thugs-forced-roger-stones-wife-to-stand-outside-barefoot-in-nightgown-during-home-raid-video

You're talking about an arrest for a process crime that didn't even exist until AFTER Mueller began his witch hunt.

I am very disappointed that you can't/won't see how wrong this is.

[Cyber Liberty]

No, we’re at the point where in two previous instances, people have screamed ‘abuse’ about FBI arrests/searches and the actions produced evidence, convictions, and plea deals. So, if I have to choose between Mueller or Stone over who’s right and who’s wrong, it’s not particularly difficult. Just like the Manafort case, don’t be surprised when subsequent superseding indictments are filed against Stone.

Life is not a series of binary choices, as you have made this (and other of Mueller's scalps) one out to be. 

I prefer to wait until a conviction.  I am sure if you were the accused, you'd prefer it that way.

[Cyber Liberty]

Mueller isn't plumb.

LOL!  Nope.  Thing is, even if he really has the goods on Stone and others (as he's been convicted of already on this thread), a lot of people aren't going to believe this "straight arrow" Mueller.

[Sanguine]

No, you are not. You have the most contradictory and ironic screen name - ever. You know who says this is not a witchhunt? The handpicked AG nominee, who has known Mueller for decades, extolled  his integrity. Under direct questioning, in his confirmation hearings, Barr has said Mueller would not be involved in one. You and your ilk are very predictable. No matter what the investigation results determine, you’ll fall back into the citadel of your deep state defense.

mueller had no integrity long before trump came onthe scene. You forget the other cases he has been involved in during his career.

But, not trying to change your mind; I know it's made up and. closed.

[edpc]

You just enunciated perfectly the "Guilty until proved innocent" line of reasoning.

I’m just following the trend and pointing out that no one wants to own the fact they were wrong about their previous assertions in the investigation. Mueller has been assumed to be abusing power and going outside his scope on multiple occasions. Facts and judicial rulings by unfriendly judges ultimately demonstrated that was untrue. Where’s the condemnation of those assumptions?

[Cyber Liberty]

Correct.  He is at minimum a half bubble off.

However far off he has to be to please his Masters. 

[Bigun]

Yeah, that's just one of the lies the idiot left pushes.   But we know better.

Truth is.... Democrats get away with their crimes and are treated with kid gloves by the media AND by our intel agencies and law enforcement.   Almost like they are special people... far superior to anyone on the right.   

The Democrats and their fellow travelers spent the better part of a century constructing the leviathan which is currently in place on the Potomac.  And none of it was done by accident!
 

[Wingnut]

However far off he has to be to please his Masters.

This house of cards he has built doesn't have a square corner anywhere in it.  Just obtuse angles.

[Cyber Liberty]

I’m just following the trend and pointing out that no one wants to own the fact they were wrong about their previous assertions in the investigation. Mueller has been assumed to be abusing power and going outside his scope on multiple occasions. Facts and judicial rulings by unfriendly judges ultimately demonstrated that was untrue. Where’s the condemnation of those assumptions?

So, because a Judge found against Manafort's motions, Stone (and by extension his wife) is as guilty as all get-out.

Gotcha.  At the risk of being called a teenage girl again, I must conclude the discussion to nowhere at this point.  We have different notions of what constitutes "guilt."  I say this without a hint of butthurt.

[Cyber Liberty]

This house of cards he has built doesn't have a square corner anywhere in it.  Just obtuse angles.

How do you drive an idiot nutz?

Put him in a round house and tell him he can only pee in the corner.

[edpc]

mueller had no integrity long before trump came onthe scene. You forget the other cases he has been involved in during his career.

But, not trying to change your mind; I know it's made up and. closed.

Here’s another close minded individual defending Mueller....


Sorry...

[Cyber Liberty]

mueller had no integrity long before trump came onthe scene. You forget the other cases he has been involved in during his career.

But, not trying to change your mind; I know it's made up and. closed.

So...Barr and Mueller are buddies.  IIRC, Comey and Mueller were good buddies, too. 

[XenaLee]

So...Barr and Mueller are buddies.  IIRC, Comey and Mueller were good buddies, too. 

So...the only thing we on the right should be surprised at....

is if any real justice occurs going forward and henceforth.

I, personally, am not holding my breath for that "happening".

[edpc]

So, because a Judge found against Manafort's motions, Stone (and by extension his wife) is as guilty as all get-out.

No, again, what I am saying is there have been assertions previously made about the investigation and tactics. Given the way things have unfolded, the prosecution has been vindicated in those instances. There’s been no shortage of opinions on it and people have obviously chosen sides. I’m not on Stone’s. It’s not because of who he is, but what he is - a man who engages in underhanded dealings, lies, and says/does anything for the win as a profession.

[Bigun]

So...the only thing we on the right should be surprised at....

is if any real justice occurs going forward and henceforth.

I, personally, am not holding my breath for that "happening".

See my most recent post above.  THAT is what we are up against and if ANY of these low life pukes ever face any real justice it will surprise the HELL out of me!  I LOVE surprises and still hope for one in this instance!

[240B]

If this raid was 'dangerous' enough to need 29 armed agents, then why would they invite CNN to come along? Wouldn't that be putting reporters in danger of being shot or harmed somehow?

Obviously, this was a circus sideshow. Mueller is desperate to justify his stupid, ridiculous, so called "investigation". And his mandate is to embarrass Trump in any way he can. We have all seen many times over on that level of government 'Laws' or rules or due process are totally meaningless. There is NO oversight to anything he does. Everybody is scared to death of him.

[XenaLee]

See my most recent post above.  THAT is what we are up against and if ANY of these low life pukes ever face any real justice it will surprise the HELL out of me!  I LOVE surprises and still hope for one in this instance!

Yeah.... I have hope too.  But unfortunately... (especially) these days....  when hope springs....

it trips, falls and breaks its stupid neck.   

[Cyber Liberty]

So...the only thing we on the right should be surprised at....

is if any real justice occurs going forward and henceforth.

I, personally, am not holding my breath for that "happening".

Whatever happens will be unbelievable to many because of all the chaff that's been thrown by both "sides."

[Cyber Liberty]

If this raid was 'dangerous' enough to need 29 armed agents, then why would they invite CNN to come along? Wouldn't that be putting reporters in danger of being shot or harmed somehow?

Obviously, this was a circus sideshow. Mueller is desperate to justify his stupid, ridiculous, so called "investigation". And his mandate is to embarrass Trump in any way he can. We have all seen many times over on that level of government 'Laws' or rules or due process are totally meaningless. There is NO oversight to anything he does. Everybody is scared to death of him.

QFT, especially the part in bold.  The "press" is not highlighting this aspect because they want their "journalists" portrayed as being beyond merely brave.

[aligncare]

@Bigun @edpc

Blinded, obsessed, deranged.

Still waiting for a sound basis for Russian collusion. Absent that, it is a witch hunt.

So what if Roger Stone has made a career of being a political operative? That alone does Not justify dragging his hearing impaired 72 year old wife out to be scared, made an example of.

It is obvious that the Deep State stench runs deep and wide, in career government circles.

They intend to remind you that THEY are in charge.

Bingo!

No one, from Mueller to media legal experts, has given a coherent legal justification for starting this investigation. There are no statutes that cover “collusion.” It appears to be a term of political art, rather than of law.

But, once Mueller got himself appointed, the cry “Russian collusion” became his cover, and the investigation itself became the event horizon for any truth regarding how Donald Trump won his election fair and square.

Absent a basis for the investigation, as you said, it is a witch-hunt. And with democrats throwing a two year temper tantrum who knows what kind of civil unrest leftist kooks might start.

[edpc]

There is NO oversight to anything he does.

False. It was pointed out, in the T. S. Ellis ruling, during Manafort’s trial, exactly how the oversight worked. He was originally under Deputy AG Rosenstein, given the recusal. Sessions has been gone for months. He’s now under acting AG Whitaker. It’s likely he had seen and signed off on the Stone warrant. Once confirmed, he’ll be under Barr.

[240B]

False. It was pointed out, in the T. S. Ellis ruling, during Manafort’s trial, exactly how the oversight worked. He was originally under Deputy AG Rosenstein, given the recusal. Sessions has been gone for months. He’s now under acting AG Whitaker. It’s likely he had seen and signed off on the Stone warrant. Once confirmed, he’ll be under Barr.

So Mueller was afraid that Stone was going to open up on the 'Feds' with Tommy Guns from the second story like Ma Barker? No wonder they sent close to 30 armed agents to arrest him and his wife. These guys are worse than Bonny and Clyde. They are known to have murdered countless people. Better safe than sorry. These are dangerous people!

The only thing this raid accomplished is to cause everyone who has ever met with Trump or anyone who even knows Trump to immediately burn anything related to anything Trump. If there are any raids in the future, I promise you that Mueller and his goon squad aren't going to find a damn thing. It has all been destroyed by now.

I hope the changing of the chain of command makes a difference, but that remains to be seen. With the House being controlled by fanatic NeverTrump fascist, I doubt anyone will be able to rein Mueller and his thugs in even a little.