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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #125 on: January 29, 2019, 10:47:04 pm »
Don't think that local school districts won't go after people who keep their kids out of the public schools and homeschool them. People=funding. If you do homeschool, fully expect social services on your doorstep, and if they have to, they will make up stuff to ensure the parents can't homeschool (they did in my area).

Yeah. Lucky for us, the Rockies, and particularly the northern Rockies are infused with a libertarian bent. We don't cotton to folks telling us what to do. Homeschooling will thrive here better than most places.

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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #126 on: January 29, 2019, 10:50:55 pm »
Nicely stated, @ABX , but I will take exception to it, as I truly think it is the other way around.

More and more I think the thing that keeps a society coloring between the lines, is the continuity between all aspects of a society. In part you are right - in that part - But I think it goes the other way around. I think religion has recoiled from society into the homes thereof precisely because it can no longer survive in the broader sphere. And in that, polite society, *all of it*, has also retreated, and we are left with cacophony and crime.

All of it is applied with force - Folks know how important that homogeneity is in culture, and folks have stood up to fight this infection at every turn, because it is so important to a culture.

We have not gone down this path on our own. It has been imposed. Every single thing that is the glue of culture has been purposefully eroded,and law has been used to continue that erosion, preventing folks from fixing the problem.

You are seeing the result of that imposition, and the continuing liberalism, beginning in the cities and leeching out like a poison into the countryside... Even now, the very heartland has become infected, and there is little left that can be done, without what's left standing up come hell or high water, as a people, and saying oh hell no, and putting it back the way it was.

But that is becoming ever harder to do - because this grim disease is no longer hidden in metaphors and and things spoken in whispers... It strides boldly in the halls of power. It owns federal law. It owns the media. It owns corporate board rooms.

It pours this vile shit down the throats of our young, taxes us blind, using our own money to give itself impetus, doubling and redoubling with every generation.

People have fought against it for decades, but our own laws have been perverted to stand in our way, against a foe 3000 miles away...

Given their own head, with the law to protect them, most communities would outlaw abortion. Most would outlaw gay marriage, most would instill morality into their community, just like they always have. If you think my little town would not put those 10 commandments back in front of the courthouse and back in every classroom, and would not re-institute public prayer, and do everything they could to put sin back on the other side of the tracks, you've got another think coming.

We cannot. It is being prevented and smothered as another culture is imposed from on high.

Gets my vote for post of the year.  Maybe the decade!  100% spot on! 

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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #127 on: January 29, 2019, 11:04:20 pm »
Gets my vote for post of the year.  Maybe the decade!  100% spot on! 

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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #128 on: January 29, 2019, 11:13:14 pm »
Nicely stated, @ABX , but I will take exception to it, as I truly think it is the other way around.

More and more I think the thing that keeps a society coloring between the lines, is the continuity between all aspects of a society. In part you are right - in that part - But I think it goes the other way around. I think religion has recoiled from society into the homes thereof precisely because it can no longer survive in the broader sphere. And in that, polite society, *all of it*, has also retreated, and we are left with cacophony and crime.

All of it is applied with force - Folks know how important that homogeneity is in culture, and folks have stood up to fight this infection at every turn, because it is so important to a culture.

We have not gone down this path on our own. It has been imposed. Every single thing that is the glue of culture has been purposefully eroded,and law has been used to continue that erosion, preventing folks from fixing the problem.

You are seeing the result of that imposition, and the continuing liberalism, beginning in the cities and leeching out like a poison into the countryside... Even now, the very heartland has become infected, and there is little left that can be done, without what's left standing up come hell or high water, as a people, and saying oh hell no, and putting it back the way it was.

But that is becoming ever harder to do - because this grim disease is no longer hidden in metaphors and and things spoken in whispers... It strides boldly in the halls of power. It owns federal law. It owns the media. It owns corporate board rooms.

It pours this vile shit down the throats of our young, taxes us blind, using our own money to give itself impetus, doubling and redoubling with every generation.

People have fought against it for decades, but our own laws have been perverted to stand in our way, against a foe 3000 miles away...

Given their own head, with the law to protect them, most communities would outlaw abortion. Most would outlaw gay marriage, most would instill morality into their community, just like they always have. If you think my little town would not put those 10 commandments back in front of the courthouse and back in every classroom, and would not re-institute public prayer, and do everything they could to put sin back on the other side of the tracks, you've got another think coming.

We cannot. It is being prevented and smothered as another culture is imposed from on high.

Wow....... is that a GREAT post, @roamer_1 !

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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #129 on: January 29, 2019, 11:17:03 pm »
Nicely stated, @ABX , but I will take exception to it, as I truly think it is the other way around.

More and more I think the thing that keeps a society coloring between the lines, is the continuity between all aspects of a society. In part you are right - in that part - But I think it goes the other way around. I think religion has recoiled from society into the homes thereof precisely because it can no longer survive in the broader sphere. And in that, polite society, *all of it*, has also retreated, and we are left with cacophony and crime.

All of it is applied with force - Folks know how important that homogeneity is in culture, and folks have stood up to fight this infection at every turn, because it is so important to a culture.

We have not gone down this path on our own. It has been imposed. Every single thing that is the glue of culture has been purposefully eroded,and law has been used to continue that erosion, preventing folks from fixing the problem.

You are seeing the result of that imposition, and the continuing liberalism, beginning in the cities and leeching out like a poison into the countryside... Even now, the very heartland has become infected, and there is little left that can be done, without what's left standing up come hell or high water, as a people, and saying oh hell no, and putting it back the way it was.

But that is becoming ever harder to do - because this grim disease is no longer hidden in metaphors and and things spoken in whispers... It strides boldly in the halls of power. It owns federal law. It owns the media. It owns corporate board rooms.

It pours this vile shit down the throats of our young, taxes us blind, using our own money to give itself impetus, doubling and redoubling with every generation.

People have fought against it for decades, but our own laws have been perverted to stand in our way, against a foe 3000 miles away...

Given their own head, with the law to protect them, most communities would outlaw abortion. Most would outlaw gay marriage, most would instill morality into their community, just like they always have. If you think my little town would not put those 10 commandments back in front of the courthouse and back in every classroom, and would not re-institute public prayer, and do everything they could to put sin back on the other side of the tracks, you've got another think coming.

We cannot. It is being prevented and smothered as another culture is imposed from on high.
Well said!
In this day and age, media set the 'norms' in people's minds, and what is seen in media is a gross distortion of what is real. Those who don't know any better  (young and impressionable, especially) think what they see on TV, from the sitcoms to the dramas to the DIY channel are how 'normal' people live, and act accordingly to fit in.
That's where the problems arise, because their model is deeply flawed, does not represent much of society, and not a model anyone really wants to live with. 
You are right that the very viable alternative, with minor adjustments over the past century, is being quashed by decree in the public schools and elsewhere, so ordinary clean and righteous living doesn't get exposure in media or education, just the bizarre and sensationalist stuff that gets ratings and sells soap, or the degeneracy that reflects the 'tastes' of the programmers.
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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #130 on: January 29, 2019, 11:27:13 pm »
Nicely stated, @ABX , but I will take exception to it, as I truly think it is the other way around.

More and more I think the thing that keeps a society coloring between the lines, is the continuity between all aspects of a society. In part you are right - in that part - But I think it goes the other way around. I think religion has recoiled from society into the homes thereof precisely because it can no longer survive in the broader sphere. And in that, polite society, *all of it*, has also retreated, and we are left with cacophony and crime.

All of it is applied with force - Folks know how important that homogeneity is in culture, and folks have stood up to fight this infection at every turn, because it is so important to a culture.

We have not gone down this path on our own. It has been imposed. Every single thing that is the glue of culture has been purposefully eroded,and law has been used to continue that erosion, preventing folks from fixing the problem.

You are seeing the result of that imposition, and the continuing liberalism, beginning in the cities and leeching out like a poison into the countryside... Even now, the very heartland has become infected, and there is little left that can be done, without what's left standing up come hell or high water, as a people, and saying oh hell no, and putting it back the way it was.

But that is becoming ever harder to do - because this grim disease is no longer hidden in metaphors and and things spoken in whispers... It strides boldly in the halls of power. It owns federal law. It owns the media. It owns corporate board rooms.

It pours this vile shit down the throats of our young, taxes us blind, using our own money to give itself impetus, doubling and redoubling with every generation.

People have fought against it for decades, but our own laws have been perverted to stand in our way, against a foe 3000 miles away...

Given their own head, with the law to protect them, most communities would outlaw abortion. Most would outlaw gay marriage, most would instill morality into their community, just like they always have. If you think my little town would not put those 10 commandments back in front of the courthouse and back in every classroom, and would not re-institute public prayer, and do everything they could to put sin back on the other side of the tracks, you've got another think coming.

We cannot. It is being prevented and smothered as another culture is imposed from on high.

Nailed it to a T.  100% Spot on!

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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #131 on: January 29, 2019, 11:31:17 pm »
I'm fine with this as long as they use the right version and guidance- the 1861 Presbiluthertarianism Calvin Edition (with the post Hobbs translation of Isiah 63, not the pre-translation which is heresy) as written about by Sister Abigal Hogbottom in the Cleveland Ohio First Church of Rain Run-off and Blessings.

Everything else is heresy and should be banned.

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"Are you religious?"

He said: "Yes."

I said: "Me too. Are you Christian or Buddhist?"

"Christian."

"Me too. Are you Catholic or Protestant?"

"Protestant."

"Me too. Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?"

"Baptist."

"Wow. Me too. Are you Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord?"

"Baptist Church of God."

"Me too. Are you original Baptist Church of God, or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?"

"Reformed Baptist Church of God."

"Me too. Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915?"

He said: "Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915."

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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #132 on: January 29, 2019, 11:33:16 pm »
Nicely stated, @ABX , but I will take exception to it, as I truly think it is the other way around.

More and more I think the thing that keeps a society coloring between the lines, is the continuity between all aspects of a society. In part you are right - in that part - But I think it goes the other way around. I think religion has recoiled from society into the homes thereof precisely because it can no longer survive in the broader sphere. And in that, polite society, *all of it*, has also retreated, and we are left with cacophony and crime.

All of it is applied with force - Folks know how important that homogeneity is in culture, and folks have stood up to fight this infection at every turn, because it is so important to a culture.

We have not gone down this path on our own. It has been imposed. Every single thing that is the glue of culture has been purposefully eroded,and law has been used to continue that erosion, preventing folks from fixing the problem.

You are seeing the result of that imposition, and the continuing liberalism, beginning in the cities and leeching out like a poison into the countryside... Even now, the very heartland has become infected, and there is little left that can be done, without what's left standing up come hell or high water, as a people, and saying oh hell no, and putting it back the way it was.

But that is becoming ever harder to do - because this grim disease is no longer hidden in metaphors and and things spoken in whispers... It strides boldly in the halls of power. It owns federal law. It owns the media. It owns corporate board rooms.

It pours this vile shit down the throats of our young, taxes us blind, using our own money to give itself impetus, doubling and redoubling with every generation.

People have fought against it for decades, but our own laws have been perverted to stand in our way, against a foe 3000 miles away...

Given their own head, with the law to protect them, most communities would outlaw abortion. Most would outlaw gay marriage, most would instill morality into their community, just like they always have. If you think my little town would not put those 10 commandments back in front of the courthouse and back in every classroom, and would not re-institute public prayer, and do everything they could to put sin back on the other side of the tracks, you've got another think coming.

We cannot. It is being prevented and smothered as another culture is imposed from on high.

Outstanding, @roamer_1 !!




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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #133 on: January 29, 2019, 11:33:23 pm »
Nailed it to a T.  100% Spot on!

That makes it unanimous among those I most respect here.
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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #134 on: January 29, 2019, 11:41:58 pm »
That makes it unanimous among those I most respect here.

The sentiment is reciprocal!  :patriot:

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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #135 on: January 30, 2019, 02:12:50 am »
Nicely stated, @ABX , but I will take exception to it, as I truly think it is the other way around.

More and more I think the thing that keeps a society coloring between the lines, is the continuity between all aspects of a society. In part you are right - in that part - But I think it goes the other way around. I think religion has recoiled from society into the homes thereof precisely because it can no longer survive in the broader sphere. And in that, polite society, *all of it*, has also retreated, and we are left with cacophony and crime.

All of it is applied with force - Folks know how important that homogeneity is in culture, and folks have stood up to fight this infection at every turn, because it is so important to a culture.

We have not gone down this path on our own. It has been imposed. Every single thing that is the glue of culture has been purposefully eroded,and law has been used to continue that erosion, preventing folks from fixing the problem.

You are seeing the result of that imposition, and the continuing liberalism, beginning in the cities and leeching out like a poison into the countryside... Even now, the very heartland has become infected, and there is little left that can be done, without what's left standing up come hell or high water, as a people, and saying oh hell no, and putting it back the way it was.

But that is becoming ever harder to do - because this grim disease is no longer hidden in metaphors and and things spoken in whispers... It strides boldly in the halls of power. It owns federal law. It owns the media. It owns corporate board rooms.

It pours this vile shit down the throats of our young, taxes us blind, using our own money to give itself impetus, doubling and redoubling with every generation.

People have fought against it for decades, but our own laws have been perverted to stand in our way, against a foe 3000 miles away...

Given their own head, with the law to protect them, most communities would outlaw abortion. Most would outlaw gay marriage, most would instill morality into their community, just like they always have. If you think my little town would not put those 10 commandments back in front of the courthouse and back in every classroom, and would not re-institute public prayer, and do everything they could to put sin back on the other side of the tracks, you've got another think coming.

We cannot. It is being prevented and smothered as another culture is imposed from on high.

One question ..... did you go out and goose step around the yard after you finished typing this?

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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #136 on: January 30, 2019, 02:16:45 am »
One question ..... did you go out and goose step around the yard after you finished typing this?

So, rather than break his piece down and refute/address them, you imply he's a Nazi or Fascist?

If you're going to troll our forum, you're going to have to do better than that.

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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #137 on: January 30, 2019, 02:17:11 am »
One question ..... did you go out and goose step around the yard after you finished typing this?
Now you are implying people are Nazis? Does your mommy know you are screwing around with the computer?
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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #138 on: January 30, 2019, 02:18:09 am »
One question ..... did you go out and goose step around the yard after you finished typing this?

Post up some Hitler images will you. It will make your comment more convincing.
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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #139 on: January 30, 2019, 02:18:55 am »
   Many Briefers always give a new member a wide berth, I do, just ask @LegalAmerican but your 1 act Minstrel Show is growing tired rather quickly, @BlueHammer and as your novelty wears off, so will you to never be heard from again, here.
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« Reply #140 on: January 30, 2019, 02:22:58 am »
   Many Briefers always give a new member a wide berth, I do, just ask @LegalAmerican but your 1 act Minstrel Show is growing tired rather quickly, @BlueHammer and as your novelty wears off, so will you to never be heard from again, here.

Now that I found this place, I intend on remaining ..... there is just too much fun to be had

Fact is, you’d like to get rid of all liberals....but you need em, and that really burns you up

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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #141 on: January 30, 2019, 02:23:40 am »
Post up some Hitler images will you. It will make your comment more convincing.

No need......you got the point

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« Reply #142 on: January 30, 2019, 02:24:27 am »
One question ..... did you go out and goose step around the yard after you finished typing this?

You sound disgruntled... Like you were turdned down by Antifa. There's some fascists for ya.

And like I said before, what the heck does it matter to you all the way over there in Massivetwoshits?

Worry about your own damn neck of the woods and leave mine the hell alone.

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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #143 on: January 30, 2019, 02:26:27 am »
So, rather than break his piece down and refute/address them, you imply he's a Nazi or Fascist?


He ain't got the stones.

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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #144 on: January 30, 2019, 02:29:32 am »
Now that I found this place, I intend on remaining ..... there is just too much fun to be had

Fact is, you’d like to get rid of all liberals....but you need em, and that really burns you up

    You severely underestimate the powers that be here @BlueHammer
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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #145 on: January 30, 2019, 02:32:38 am »
    You severely underestimate the powers that be here @BlueHammer
    Incidentally Liberals don't give me half the Heartburn Trumpers do, BUT again you have no clue about Briefers that you paint with your broad brush.

    PS: you aint worth a time~out, I'll leave that up to someone else or Management.

Ok......thanks......it’s easy to ban someone, I know.....but it won’t make you any closer to the truth

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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #146 on: January 30, 2019, 02:34:15 am »
Ok......thanks......it’s easy to ban someone, I know.....but it won’t make you any closer to the truth
And YOU will?  **nononono*

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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #147 on: January 30, 2019, 02:35:52 am »
   I would love to start a poll:

   How long should TBR allow Bluehammer to play here?

   Of Course It would be deleted immediately with a stern scolding from Management and I'm already in deep $hit in that Category.
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Re: Trump touts proposed Bible literacy classes in state schools
« Reply #148 on: January 30, 2019, 02:37:06 am »
And YOU will?  **nononono*

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