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Can the Republic Survive the Mainstream Media?
« on: January 28, 2019, 12:40:36 pm »
January 28, 2019
Can the Republic Survive the Mainstream Media?
By David Harris

People complain of the cultural turmoil and upset in the country without realizing that the mainstream media – which nowadays includes almost all broadcast media as well as the digital giants Facebook, Google, and Twitter, and others – are the main determinants of the mood and cultural milieu of the United States.  At this point it is inescapable that unless the mainstream media are happy, we cannot, as a society, be happy.  While almost nobody fully grasps the profound cultural influence of the media, we all respond to media-fostered agitation when they’re upset – notably when conservative/Republican ideas are in the ascendance – and the relative calm and quiescence when their like-minded, left-leaning Democrats are in charge.

A sad, perhaps damning adjunct in terms of cultural survival is that while we feel the swings in mood of the culture, most of us have little idea about the media’s pivotal influence.  Instead we buy into media-generated mis-assignment of blame (and consequently into dysfunctional solutions).  All of us hope for a peaceful national/cultural mood: we’re all driven to escape the querulous, fractious atmosphere that pervades during periods of Republican dominance.  And we learn behaviorally – by experiencing the milieus foisted on us by the media – that tranquility can only come our way when their designated “proper” people are in office.  Disquieting agitation will ever prevail when “idiots” like Reagan, Bush 43 and Trump… aloof “patricians” like Bush 41…or “Nazis” like Trump and Bush 43 are in power.

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/01/can_the_republic_survive_the_mainstream_media_.html#ixzz5duCRl1bG
 

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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2019, 02:51:30 pm »
With few exceptions, the MSM are Public Enemy no. 1.
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2019, 02:54:57 pm »
As it is currently constituted, NOPE!
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2019, 02:59:38 pm »
With few exceptions, the MSM are Public Enemy no. 1.
They're not good, but I put academia as enemy no. 1.  Academia is where all the nonsense originates.  Mediaites, politicians, Hollyweird types, and various and sundry SJWs take it from there.

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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2019, 03:09:26 pm »
They're not good, but I put academia as enemy no. 1.  Academia is where all the nonsense originates.  Mediaites, politicians, Hollyweird types, and various and sundry SJWs take it from there.
If they weren't all marching in lockstep, kids would have a chance to figure it out, but all we mentioned are operating from the same playbook.
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2019, 03:12:03 pm »
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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2019, 03:16:43 pm »
it's not the media......the media has not changed and is only being scapegoated.

the bigger problem is the general public choosing to believe everything behind one perspective (political demographic) or another. what makes Fox News any more believable than CNN?

I'm new, I'm from MA, but I have not voted for a democrat since Clinton/Dole and that was the only time....but I did not vote for Trump as I have been familiar with his brand for 40 years.

My question to all of you is: "Do Trump's policies reflect true conservatism?"
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2019, 03:21:42 pm »
it's not the media......the media has not changed and is only being scapegoated.

the bigger problem is the general public choosing to believe everything behind one perspective (political demographic) or another. what makes Fox News any more believable than CNN?

I'm new, I'm from MA, but I have not voted for a democrat since Clinton/Dole and that was the only time....but I did not vote for Trump as I have been familiar with his brand for 40 years.

My question to all of you is: "Do Trump's policies reflect true conservatism?"


How about you first unload your question by giving us Your definition of true conservatism?

And when did you stop beating your wife?
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2019, 03:25:32 pm »
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2019, 03:27:07 pm »
it's not the media......the media has not changed and is only being scapegoated.

the bigger problem is the general public choosing to believe everything behind one perspective (political demographic) or another. what makes Fox News any more believable than CNN?

I'm new, I'm from MA, but I have not voted for a democrat since Clinton/Dole and that was the only time....but I did not vote for Trump as I have been familiar with his brand for 40 years.

My question to all of you is: "Do Trump's policies reflect true conservatism?"

In a word.... somewhat.  But not nearly enough or comprehensively.   

Trump's policies of keeping our military well-funded and respected is one policy that I deem as conservative.  His policy of tax cuts and less regulations on business and on taxpayers is another.  Wanting to secure the border is another.  But on fiscal matters like the national debt and deficit, he is MIA.
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2019, 03:33:27 pm »
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2019, 03:36:31 pm »
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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2019, 05:57:04 pm »
In a word.... somewhat.  But not nearly enough or comprehensively.   

Trump's policies of keeping our military well-funded and respected is one policy that I deem as conservative.  His policy of tax cuts and less regulations on business and on taxpayers is another.  Wanting to secure the border is another.  But on fiscal matters like the national debt and deficit, he is MIA.

without fiscal prudence and sound morals, there can be no conservatism......fact is that Trump is not a conservative at all.....he is a panderer.....as for his tax cut, he is true to the belief that most Americans are small people on the shoulders of giants

As for border security, given that the situation along the mexican border has been improving for the last 20 years, there are more important issues to be deal with in the country........problem is that he has taken the wall, or the fence, or the steel slats or whatever you want to call it to his base and they are blindly running with 'build that wall'

By the way, how does somebody blindly commit billions of dollars to an abstract concept ..... shouldn't there be any details to the proposal or is  'whatever you want to call it' enough.

WRONG........the is not conservatism......he is a bright light distracting a bunch of moths

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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2019, 06:00:08 pm »

My question to all of you is: "Do Trump's policies reflect true conservatism?"

No.

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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2019, 06:02:11 pm »
I kind of laugh when people think it is worse now than it was in the past. Even with all our complaints about the MSM now, it is nothing compared to the past. Now, we have endless options coming from all sides and the average citizen, if willing, can fact check an article rather quickly - or in the least, compare it to what other sources are saying.

'Fake news' and biased media have always been with us. Hell, the original fake news in this country was none other than Benjamin Franklin, and if you ever study the kind of stuff he did in his newspapers, it would make CNN seem like the up and up.

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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2019, 06:03:06 pm »
As for border security, given that the situation along the mexican border has been improving for the last 20 years, there are more important issues to be deal with in the country........problem is that he has taken the wall, or the fence, or the steel slats or whatever you want to call it to his base and they are blindly running with 'build that wall'

 :facepalm2:  Are you from a border State, by chance?
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Re: Can the Republic Survive the Mainstream Media?
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2019, 06:05:07 pm »
it's not the media......the media has not changed and is only being scapegoated.

the bigger problem is the general public choosing to believe everything behind one perspective (political demographic) or another. what makes Fox News any more believable than CNN?

I'm new, I'm from MA, but I have not voted for a democrat since Clinton/Dole and that was the only time....but I did not vote for Trump as I have been familiar with his brand for 40 years.

My question to all of you is: "Do Trump's policies reflect true conservatism?"


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Re: Can the Republic Survive the Mainstream Media?
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2019, 06:06:20 pm »
:facepalm2:  Are you from a border State, by chance?

Obviously not.

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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2019, 06:09:31 pm »
:facepalm2:  Are you from a border State, by chance?

I lived 17 years in San Diego....but I'm in MA now

Border crossings are substantially down over the last 10-20 years

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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2019, 06:10:38 pm »
I lived 17 years in San Diego....but I'm in MA now

Border crossings are substantially down over the last 10-20 years

No, sir, they are not.

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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2019, 06:12:04 pm »

How about you first unload your question by giving us Your definition of true conservatism?

And when did you stop beating your wife?

come on, man.......it doesn't matter how much a person on one side wants to hate on the other, neither is going anywhere......things are best when there is some common groung and 'my way or the highway' will lead that attitude with more disappointment than satisfaction

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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2019, 06:12:32 pm »
No, sir, they are not.

Yes..........they are

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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2019, 06:14:01 pm »
I lived 17 years in San Diego....but I'm in MA now

Border crossings are substantially down over the last 10-20 years

Your "Border Crossings" qualifier not withstanding, its pretty clear illegal immigration is FAR worse than it was 20 -30 years ago. A good chunk of those are border crossers. I have my doubt about it ticking down recently, too.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/28/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/
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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2019, 06:15:54 pm »
without fiscal prudence and sound morals, there can be no conservatism......fact is that Trump is not a conservative at all.....he is a panderer.....as for his tax cut, he is true to the belief that most Americans are small people on the shoulders of giants

Ehh.... you're positing that the issue is an 'either/or' one.  It's not.  You can be conservative on some issues, and radically non-conservative on others.  Case in point:  how drastically opposite some of us "conservatives" here disagree on various issues and policies.  And notice that I said "somewhat", not "yes".
 
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As for border security, given that the situation along the mexican border has been improving for the last 20 years, there are more important issues to be deal with in the country........problem is that he has taken the wall, or the fence, or the steel slats or whatever you want to call it to his base and they are blindly running with 'build that wall'

Improving?  How, exactly, did you manage to come up with that?   It has gotten, pardon the pun, progressively WORSE over the last decade.

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By the way, how does somebody blindly commit billions of dollars to an abstract concept ..... shouldn't there be any details to the proposal or is  'whatever you want to call it' enough.

An abstract concept?  It ain't rocket science.  It's pretty straight-forward.  You construct a barrier to keep illegal invaders the hell out.

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WRONG........the is not conservatism......he is a bright light distracting a bunch of moths

Wrong?  Lol!  Go back and re-read my post... slower this time.   
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