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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #250 on: January 28, 2019, 01:43:56 am »
He had no choice at this point did he?  He'd already backtracked on three other promises he'd made that were the cornerstone to getting him elected.  He was already on audio telling the Mexican President at the time that having Mexico pay for the wall was a "gimmick" to get the crowd fired up.

If he even had a chance in hell of winning in 2020 he had no choice but to do what did for 35 days.  Only he should have gone on longer with it instead of blinking.



No , he did not back track!  You like many others were waiting for a physical check from Mexico?  It was aways the plan, to be done by tariffs.  US-MCA trade deal, and the first year, the wall pays for itself.  So, he is working on this last issue, and came through on 99%. of the other promises & more, you are going to throw him under the bus?  Pray tell who is PERFECT ENOUGH FOR YOU TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT?  More professional politicians, who get nothing done for us their whole lives in office?  THOSE?  Do you want a dictator?  That is what you are expecting him to be, while slapping him around daily.

Like the men who batter women, can't understand why she keeps doing "wrong" and will beat her up over & over, and thinks THAT will shape her up!  He beats the crap out of her, why won't she learn?  Except, he sets up impossible standards for her to meet.  Like dinner was too cold, yet, HE CAME 2 hours late to dinner! Then, dinner was TOO HOT..for him, so he has to beat her up some more. She just 'won't learn."   

All his other achievements, that came to fruition & more..mean NOTHING NOW?  All because of the wall?  The wall I was promised in 1986 under Reagan & DEMON-RATS, who then DEMON-RATS reneged after amnesty.  Mad at demon-rats?   NO. MAD AT RINO'S..NO.  Lets beat up the only man who is working 100 hour weeks for NO PAY, for love of America. 
THAT MAN!   None of you have gone to my link.  Media won't tell you.  www.magapill.com

It is mind boggling to me.  Ok, I addressed one of your so called 'back tranks".  List the other TWO.....real ones, not LEFT MEDIA LIES...as I will know that right away.

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #251 on: January 28, 2019, 01:50:01 am »
Yes, during the campaign, Trump released a memo, detailing how Mexico could make a one time, lump sum payment. Also, the new trade deal isn’t in effect until the Senate votes on it. Finally, the tariffs collected are and end use tax on the purchaser. In other words, Americans pay them.
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #252 on: January 28, 2019, 01:50:19 am »
She asked me name my foe then. I said the need within some men to fight and kill their brothers without thought of Love or God. Ken Hensley

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #253 on: January 28, 2019, 01:54:30 am »
@dfwgator

I agree.  The problem is, the clock is running out on Trump's first administration.  Assuming he gets re-elected, and I don't know if that's a sure thing, it's going to take, what, a decade to build?  Trump will be gone and any construction will be stopped after that.


President TRUMP..needs to be re-elected...unless you all want to live in socialism?  No, the wall is being built right now. President TRUMP wants the money, to get more of a head start. If he can receive all the money, in ONE YEARS TIME. 

THAT IS THE ISSUE...MONEY TO KEEP THE WALL BEING BUIILT....TILL DONE.  ANOTHER ILLEGAL CARAVAN COMING UP.

Blame the RINO'S , ROMNEY, AND DEMON-RATS,,who make his, NO PAY JOB, EVEN HARDER.  11513

My mom told me a story, that in Europe on the farm, when two horses were pulling a load, they used to beat the HARDEST WORKING horse and not the lazy one, to work harder, as they knew, the lazy one would not perform anyway!  Some times they killed the horse, that was the REAL WORKER!  I thought, that did not make sense, as a child.  Here we are again.

BUT KEEP BEATING UP PRESIDENT.  *****rollingeyes*****

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #254 on: January 28, 2019, 01:55:12 am »
I don't think anyone should assume anything about Trump anymore.  He's backpedaled on so many issues it's ridiculous.  He got his royal behind spanked by a senile ole bitty.  That's got to sting. His ego has to be totally crushed.  I don't see him running again as I don't think he's going to chance another defeat, embarrassment and humiliation.

I can't believe he expects that people are buying into this b.s. 

If it wasn't a concession then what the heck was it?  On top of that Pelosi just announced that he still won't be giving the SOTU from the House.  He backed down and this is what it got him.  Absolutely nothing.  Not a darn thing.

@libertybele

Imo it comes down to the fact that Trump wasn't born the day he rode down that escalator.  I think he came up with the wall thing to please his supporters and got caught in a trap of his own making. 
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #255 on: January 28, 2019, 01:57:39 am »

President TRUMP..needs to be re-elected...unless you all want to live in socialism?  No, the wall is being built right now. President TRUMP wants the money, to get more of a head start. If he can receive all the money, in ONE YEARS TIME. 

THAT IS THE ISSUE...MONEY TO KEEP THE WALL BEING BUIILT....TILL DONE.  ANOTHER ILLEGAL CARAVAN COMING UP.

Blame the RINO'S , ROMNEY, AND DEMON-RATS,,who make his, NO PAY JOB, EVEN HARDER.  11513

My mom told me a story, that in Europe on the farm, when two horses were pulling a load, they used to beat the HARDEST WORKING horse and not the lazy one, to work harder, as they knew, the lazy one would not perform anyway!  Some times they killed the horse, that was the REAL WORKER!  I thought, that did not make sense, as a child.  Here we are again.

BUT KEEP BEATING UP PRESIDENT.  *****rollingeyes*****

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This is America.  We beat up presidents and politicians because we can.  It's healthier than idolizing them.

What happened to the first caravan?  (Sincere question).
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #256 on: January 28, 2019, 01:58:24 am »

President TRUMP..needs to be re-elected...unless you all want to live in socialism? 

Nah... Howabout NEITHER.

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No, the wall is being built right now.

No it's not - It's being REPAIRED right now... With money allocated from before Tumpy the Clown began his presidency.

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #257 on: January 28, 2019, 02:02:57 am »
@Mesaclone

A wall would be a great, but it's not going to happen.

Your last sentence proves where you're coming from on this--"the president WILL get "his" wall."  It's all about defending a politician you're far too invested in, always making sure he's blameless.  If a wall were built, it would be our wall, not his.



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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #258 on: January 28, 2019, 02:06:58 am »
@libertybele

Imo it comes down to the fact that Trump wasn't born the day he rode down that escalator.  I think he came up with the wall thing to please his supporters and got caught in a trap of his own making.

He was throwing stuff out and that one struck gold. He was smart enough to recognize it and expanded on it beyond reality - make Mexico pay for it - which wasn't even necessary. Just art of the deal hyperbole.

The wall is likely why he's president today.

And just 4 years earlier he was saying Mitt Romney of all people was "mean-spirited" for campaigning on getting illegals to self deport. And yet people took him seriously 4 years later.

In addition on this government funding go around he already told both parties he was going to sign the CR to keep government open without funding for the wall. He had already folded on the wall. But when all the blow back came about not demanding funding is when he changed his mind about signing the CR. He had no plan and hadn't worked with his party to organize a united front. He just refused to sign what he said he was going to sign the day before due to bad optics. That wasn't a man ready to stand firm or a man with a plan. To expect anything other than wreckage from him is magical thinking.

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #259 on: January 28, 2019, 02:08:03 am »
Quote from: libertybele on Today at 08:07:44 PM

I don't think anyone should assume anything about Trump anymore.  He's backpedaled on so many issues it's ridiculous.  He got his royal behind spanked by a senile ole bitty.  That's got to sting. His ego has to be totally crushed.  I don't see him running again as I don't think he's going to chance another defeat, embarrassment and humiliation.

I can't believe he expects that people are buying into this b.s. 

If it wasn't a concession then what the heck was it?  On top of that Pelosi just announced that he still won't be giving the SOTU from the House.  He backed down and this is what it got him.  Absolutely nothing.  Not a darn thing.


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OK...give me a list of all the back pedals.....You are pissed at him and NOT PELOSI??????  The Communist Pelosi ?  No wonder America is in trouble, you people don't know who to support & think bashing , WRONGFULLY , the president is sport? 

What did DEMON-RATS GET? LIST WHAT THEY GOT.

  Federal workers, are receiving some back pay, and can live, better now, if DEMON-RATS LIED AGAIN about not negotiating, unless the shut down was over...LET'S SEE WHAT THEY DO.  President TRUMP is taking their bluff, that they will negotiate.  I doubt it..so next is National emergency.  PLAN AHEAD.

BTW.  I don't 'need" the state of the union address.  Does anyone NOT KNOW our STATE we are in? 


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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #260 on: January 28, 2019, 02:12:50 am »
@LegalAmerican

This is America.  We beat up presidents and politicians because we can.  It's healthier than idolizing them.

What happened to the first caravan?  (Sincere question).

They fell out of the news cycle and slid off the road into the weeds.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #261 on: January 28, 2019, 02:20:14 am »
Quote from: libertybele on Today at 08:07:44 PM

I don't think anyone should assume anything about Trump anymore.  He's backpedaled on so many issues it's ridiculous.  He got his royal behind spanked by a senile ole bitty.  That's got to sting. His ego has to be totally crushed.  I don't see him running again as I don't think he's going to chance another defeat, embarrassment and humiliation.

I can't believe he expects that people are buying into this b.s. 

If it wasn't a concession then what the heck was it?  On top of that Pelosi just announced that he still won't be giving the SOTU from the House.  He backed down and this is what it got him.  Absolutely nothing.  Not a darn thing.



OK...give me a list of all the back pedals.....You are pissed at him and NOT PELOSI??????  The Communist Pelosi ?  No wonder America is in trouble, you people don't know who to support & think bashing , WRONGFULLY , the president is sport?

Lock her up, drain the swamp, repeal Obamacare are good starts... There is no wall and it is much more likely there won't be one anytime during his term now.

You can get a good laugh at this one: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/12/us/politics/trump-trans-pacific-partnership.html

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #262 on: January 28, 2019, 02:23:28 am »
@LegalAmerican

This is America.  We beat up presidents and politicians because we can.  It's healthier than idolizing them.

What happened to the first caravan?  (Sincere question).

Not, Idolizing anyone. I don't watch movies. I see results and sincerity, as do some others. I've been through many presidents. I know a worker when I see one.  BTW. I know what happened to the OTHER caravans...why don't you?

There are YouTube on that. President TRUMP stopped most of them.  Military, barbed wire.  WHY DON'T YOU KNOW?
Some went back home, some stayed in Tiajuna  sp? Some got through our borders.  Most did not want ASYLUM IN MEXICO even that it was offered by Mexico.  So, that was not the issue. Our laws are so bad, they HELP ILLEGALS...better then American citizens!

BTW. Mexico is building a new wall too, on their side.  www.magapill.com   Try my link.  SINCERELY.

Would you say Judge Pirro is smart?  And she is a senior too. About 60 years old. Maturity & experience.


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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #263 on: January 28, 2019, 02:37:59 am »
@musiclady it's also his job to rally the people behind what he's trying to do.
I think the people are behind it. The media deny us a voice. Whole web pages and youtube channels are shut down, Comments are edited, letter to the editor go into the circular file. Polls are carefully worded and sampled to give the desired result, not even a cross section of society.

As for Congress, it has been a long time since our 'representatives' in Washington D.C. have represented us.  They toss a few bones and scraps from the high table and point to those in election years, but for the most part, they couldn't care less what we think.

If they are from a GOP heavy district, they bank on voters having no other choice, and the Dems do the same in Dem heavy districts, but the Party is happening on Capitol Hill and K Street, and on junkets wherever dubbed 'factfinding missions' and such, at our expense.  At least in the blowback over POTUS shutting down Pelosi's trip, the 93% add on entourage has been exposed (again, Moochelle Obama was notorious  for such, but that got glossed over fast). Of course the GOPe won't fight that, they don't all fly coach, either.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #264 on: January 28, 2019, 02:40:52 am »
I don't idolize him, I just call him perfect.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #265 on: January 28, 2019, 02:46:43 am »
I think the people are behind it. The media deny us a voice. Whole web pages and youtube channels are shut down, Comments are edited, letter to the editor go into the circular file. Polls are carefully worded and sampled to give the desired result, not even a cross section of society.

As for Congress, it has been a long time since our 'representatives' in Washington D.C. have represented us.  They toss a few bones and scraps from the high table and point to those in election years, but for the most part, they couldn't care less what we think.

If they are from a GOP heavy district, they bank on voters having no other choice, and the Dems do the same in Dem heavy districts, but the Party is happening on Capitol Hill and K Street, and on junkets wherever dubbed 'factfinding missions' and such, at our expense.  At least in the blowback over POTUS shutting down Pelosi's trip, the 93% add on entourage has been exposed (again, Moochelle Obama was notorious  for such, but that got glossed over fast). Of course the GOPe won't fight that, they don't all fly coach, either.

The biggest single reason Trump was elected was due to campaigning for "the wall" yet both parties ignore the voters over and over on this. Voters are pissed and I really don't understand how both parties can pretend otherwise.

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #266 on: January 28, 2019, 02:48:10 am »


For you @LegalAmerican   You're doing great!   :beer:

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #267 on: January 28, 2019, 02:49:56 am »
@LegalAmerican

This is America.  We beat up presidents and politicians because we can.  It's healthier than idolizing them.

What happened to the first caravan?  (Sincere question).

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Last I heard there were bottled up in Tijuana and Mexicali.  They were not allowed in.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #268 on: January 28, 2019, 03:04:44 am »
I think the people are behind it. The media deny us a voice. Whole web pages and youtube channels are shut down, Comments are edited, letter to the editor go into the circular file. Polls are carefully worded and sampled to give the desired result, not even a cross section of society.

As for Congress, it has been a long time since our 'representatives' in Washington D.C. have represented us.  They toss a few bones and scraps from the high table and point to those in election years, but for the most part, they couldn't care less what we think.

If they are from a GOP heavy district, they bank on voters having no other choice, and the Dems do the same in Dem heavy districts, but the Party is happening on Capitol Hill and K Street, and on junkets wherever dubbed 'factfinding missions' and such, at our expense.  At least in the blowback over POTUS shutting down Pelosi's trip, the 93% add on entourage has been exposed (again, Moochelle Obama was notorious  for such, but that got glossed over fast). Of course the GOPe won't fight that, they don't all fly coach, either.


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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #269 on: January 28, 2019, 03:12:06 am »


For you @LegalAmerican   You're doing great!   :beer:


Thank you.  It is rare, when people understand.    :kisses2:

I am a LEGAL IMMIGRANT from Europe, who lived socialism.  I ..KNOW.   People on here don't. Complacent.  I think I can say, SPOILED...as they think, their lovely life will continue, while bashing president TRUMP.    So wrong & foolish.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #270 on: January 28, 2019, 03:16:14 am »
I'm waiting for my "back pedal list" and "promises not kept" list.   Did I miss them?  People throw out that stuff, but can't back it up.  I assume some are now researching for some?  lol.  Give him 8 years like they said Obama needed. Then we can talk, what was NOT DONE, USING CONGRESS & CONSTITUTION. 

I need a real list.

Forget that ALL DEMON-RATS PRESIDENT KEPT NONE...AT ALL...if my president is still working on some of his promises,,very few left, most achieved in 18 months, they want to crucify him for it. Yet the NEXT PRESIDENT will be smooth talking, do NOTHING for Americans, him, her..they will LOVE because they are smooth, lying talkers.  Go figure.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #271 on: January 28, 2019, 03:17:04 am »

Thank you.  It is rare, when people understand.    :kisses2:

I am a LEGAL IMMIGRANT from Europe, who lived socialism.  I ..KNOW.   People on here don't. Complacent.  I think I can say, SPOILED...as they think, their lovely life will continue, while bashing president TRUMP.    So wrong & foolish.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #272 on: January 28, 2019, 03:19:24 am »
I'm waiting for my back pedal list and promises not kept list.   Did I miss them?

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #273 on: January 28, 2019, 03:23:53 am »
Careful with that axe, Eugene.

What?  Ax?

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