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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #150 on: January 26, 2019, 10:51:08 pm »
Please stay on topic!  Mueller is not the topic, the "end" of the "shutdown" is.

Don't make this a NT vs AT thread or I'll lock it.


LOL  Seriously?  Every thread here is NT vs AT, even when they're not about T.

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #151 on: January 26, 2019, 10:52:14 pm »
LOL  Seriously?  Every thread here is NT vs AT, even when they're not about T.

True!  :happyhappy:
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #152 on: January 26, 2019, 10:53:12 pm »
@kevindavis

HorseHillary! The Dim-controlled Congress is NOT going to let him have a wall under ANY circumstances because without the fresh influx of illegal alien voters they will lose power.

But we're already building one @sneakypete   Updates here:  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,349268.0.html

I've no doubt, one way or the other, the President will find the funding to complete it.



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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #153 on: January 26, 2019, 10:53:47 pm »
LOL  Seriously?  Every thread here is NT vs AT, even when they're not about T.

Maybe Mod2 forgot the sarc tag....?   lol
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #154 on: January 26, 2019, 10:55:20 pm »
LOL  Seriously?  Every thread here is NT vs AT, even when they're not about T.

Well at least it hasn't devolved into their demanding we precede T with "President" for awhile...

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #155 on: January 26, 2019, 10:57:37 pm »
But we're already building one @sneakypete   Updates here:  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,349268.0.html

I've no doubt, one way or the other, the President will find the funding to complete it beyond the $1.6 billion in March.

I've been watching them build progressively stronger walls on the border for as long as I've had the eyes to watch.  The pace has been glacial, and they've been shown to work as designed.  That they work is precisely why the Rats oppose them with any rhetorical tool they can find, even having the most pro-abortion politicians in history calling them "immoral."
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #156 on: January 26, 2019, 10:58:53 pm »
Well at least it hasn't devolved into their demanding we precede T with "President" for awhile...

That Trump Train left the station quite some time ago.  I use the honorific when it's appropriate and clarifying. 
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #157 on: January 26, 2019, 11:02:10 pm »
   I've always advocated that this Forum needs an OFFICIAL NT/AT Elimination Thread, matches and gasoline, optional.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #158 on: January 26, 2019, 11:03:07 pm »
I've been watching them build progressively stronger walls on the border for as long as I've had the eyes to watch.  The pace has been glacial, and they've been shown to work as designed.  That they work is precisely why the Rats oppose them with any rhetorical tool they can find, even having the most pro-abortion politicians in history calling them "immoral."

I'm still on the side that says the President will find and get the funding, even if Pelosi is unhappy.  :laugh:

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #159 on: January 26, 2019, 11:05:40 pm »
   I've always advocated that this Forum needs an OFFICIAL NT/AT Elimination Thread, matches and gasoline, optional.

Kind of Alien verses Predator thing eh?
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #160 on: January 26, 2019, 11:06:20 pm »
I'm still on the side that says the President will find and get the funding, even if Pelosi is unhappy.  :laugh:

I hope you're right.

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #161 on: January 26, 2019, 11:08:00 pm »
He is doing a really good job of building one between himself and the people who would have voted for him in 2020.
Actually, Fred, that is being done by the same people who assured Conservatives they didn't need our support, nor want it. Now we catch shit for supporting one of Trumps initiatives that failed--something we, too, had been advocating for for some time.

We aren't the problem, our desire for the success (or failure) of some program is determined by what we think is best for the country, what conforms with the Constitution and Original Intent, not who proposes it.

The obstructionists are in Congress, the Republicans pretending to be Conservatives, people who have lied their way into office by lying to the voters, and who have no intention of anything but bid'ness as usual in DC.  The rest are Communists and fellow travelers/sympathizers flying the "Democrat" label, and those who are there for the money they can make screwing us all.

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #162 on: January 26, 2019, 11:08:49 pm »
I'm still on the side that says the President will find and get the funding, even if Pelosi is unhappy.  :laugh:

I can honestly state that I'm rooting for that too. :th_10444:
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #163 on: January 26, 2019, 11:09:43 pm »
Kind of Alien verses Predator thing eh?

...with the special effects of Godzilla vs. King Kong.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #164 on: January 26, 2019, 11:11:01 pm »
   I've always advocated that this Forum needs an OFFICIAL NT/AT Elimination Thread, matches and gasoline, optional.
Meh. Why encourage what already is ridiculous?

Those to the right of Hillary, form a circle, face inward, load, ready, FIRE, aim...

Too typical GOP.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #165 on: January 26, 2019, 11:12:46 pm »
...with the special effects of Godzilla vs. King Kong.

Ya, Godzilla vs. Bambi went flat too fast.

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #166 on: January 26, 2019, 11:14:48 pm »
Ya, Godzilla vs. Bambi went flat too fast.

YA!    I saw that one.  Loved the little toenail flip from Godzilla at the end.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #167 on: January 26, 2019, 11:16:43 pm »
   The logic against my idea was explained to me last year in a PM, the $hitstorm always spills out into the rest of the Forum and scares some Briefers into leaving, besides Myst would have to pay her Mods more than the minimum wage she's getting away with now.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #168 on: January 26, 2019, 11:22:30 pm »
I'm still on the side that says the President will find and get the funding, even if Pelosi is unhappy.  :laugh:

I would only be happy if it made Pelosi unhappy.

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #169 on: January 26, 2019, 11:28:32 pm »
Well, I don't know how you define "goalpost", but these structures are 20 feet high and 30 feet deep.   :laugh:



Well, I’d probably define the moving goalpost a few ways. Let’s start with cheering the president’s statement in December that he’d gladly take responsibility for a shutdown over border security. Then, once he refuses to sign a clean CR, overwhelmingly passed in the Senate, the shutdown is suddenly someone else’s fault.

Then, we had the SOTU standoff. When he was denied the venue, some here were certain he’d deliver it in the senate with Pelosi uninvited or hold a MAGA type event. When he capitulated on that issue, well, it wasn’t important to give the speech right now.

Next, I seem to recall you scoffed at a member’s suggestion the shutdown compromise should include DACA protection. When that was actually part of his address, it was suddenly obvious to you that was a reasonable offer, since ‘everyone knows’ we’re not kicking them out, anyway. You argued that wasn’t amnesty. When he tweeted amnesty would be discussed as part of a larger comprehensive deal, well, you rationalized it by saying someone had to clean up the mess.

Now, we’ve reached the point where he got zero money for the wall in the 3 week deal, most likely won’t by the 15th, and would have any declaration immediately challenged, bogged down in lawsuits, then slow walked. That effectively ends any shot at the issue being resolved between now and the 2020 campaign. So, here you are with your ’nyah, nyah’ video posts, trying to convince us he’s already gotten it, anyway.

The only thing that’s 20ft high and 30ft deep is the pile of BS you’ve been shoveling.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #170 on: January 26, 2019, 11:35:14 pm »


Well, I’d probably define the moving goalpost a few ways. Let’s start with cheering the president’s statement in December that he’d gladly take responsibility for a shutdown over border security. Then, once he refuses to sign a clean CR, overwhelmingly passed in the Senate, the shutdown is suddenly someone else’s fault.

Then, we had the SOTU standoff. When he was denied the venue, some here were certain he’d deliver it in the senate with Pelosi uninvited or hold a MAGA type event. When he capitulated on that issue, well, it wasn’t important to give the speech right now.

Next, I seem to recall you scoffed at a member’s suggestion the shutdown compromise should include DACA protection. When that was actually part of his address, it was suddenly obvious to you that was a reasonable offer, since ‘everyone knows’ we’re not kicking them out, anyway. You argued that wasn’t amnesty. When he tweeted amnesty would be discussed as part of a larger comprehensive deal, well, you rationalized it by saying someone had to clean up the mess.

Now, we’ve reached the point where he got zero money for the wall in the 3 week deal, most likely won’t by the 15th, and would have any declaration immediately challenged, bogged down in lawsuits, then slow walked. That effectively ends any shot at the issue being resolved between now and the 2020 campaign. So, here you are with your ’nyah, nyah’ video posts, trying to convince us he’s already gotten it, anyway.

The only thing that’s 20ft high and 30ft deep is the pile of BS you’ve been shoveling.

Actually.... that particular pile is infinite.... and growing daily!  It's like a black hole in reverse.   lololol

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #171 on: January 26, 2019, 11:39:59 pm »
Actually.... that particular pile is infinite.... and growing daily!  It's like a black hole in reverse.   lololol


She can have Gabe’s job at Trump National.


Gabriel Sedano, a former maintenance worker who had worked at the club since 2005, was fired and spoke to The Post.

"I told them they needed to consider us. I had worked almost 15 years for them in this club, and I'd given the best of myself to this job," Sedano said, according to the paper. "I'd never done anything wrong, only work and work."


https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/01/26/politics/trump-golf-course-undocumented-workers-government-shutdown/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #172 on: January 26, 2019, 11:40:50 pm »


The only thing that’s 20ft high and 30ft deep is the pile of BS you’ve been shoveling.

RiV hasn’t had any intellectual honesty since day one, don’t know why you’d dare to expect it now.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #173 on: January 26, 2019, 11:47:15 pm »

Well, I’d probably define the moving goalpost a few ways. Let’s start with cheering the president’s statement in December that he’d gladly take responsibility for a shutdown over border security. Then, once he refuses to sign a clean CR, overwhelmingly passed in the Senate, the shutdown is suddenly someone else’s fault.

Then, we had the SOTU standoff. When he was denied the venue, some here were certain he’d deliver it in the senate with Pelosi uninvited or hold a MAGA type event. When he capitulated on that issue, well, it wasn’t important to give the speech right now.

Next, I seem to recall you scoffed at a member’s suggestion the shutdown compromise should include DACA protection. When that was actually part of his address, it was suddenly obvious to you that was a reasonable offer, since ‘everyone knows’ we’re not kicking them out, anyway. You argued that wasn’t amnesty. When he tweeted amnesty would be discussed as part of a larger comprehensive deal, well, you rationalized it by saying someone had to clean up the mess.

Now, we’ve reached the point where he got zero money for the wall in the 3 week deal, most likely won’t by the 15th, and would have any declaration immediately challenged, bogged down in lawsuits, then slow walked. That effectively ends any shot at the issue being resolved between now and the 2020 campaign. So, here you are with your ’nyah, nyah’ video posts, trying to convince us he’s already gotten it, anyway.

The only thing that’s 20ft high and 30ft deep is the pile of BS you’ve been shoveling.

This took you some quality time to compose ... a complete waste of time, yet evidence that you must have gone back to your previous posts and realized how perilously close you'd come to agreeing with me on the construction of the wall.  I am lovin' this.  88devil

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #174 on: January 26, 2019, 11:52:50 pm »
This took you some quality time to compose ... a complete waste of time, yet evidence that you must have gone back to your previous posts and realized how perilously close you'd come to agreeing with me on the construction of the wall.  I am lovin' this.  88devil

Enjoy your Saturday evening ..... hopefully with good food and even better friends.   :beer:

That's odd...we must have read different posts.  I found that one enlightening, and was indeed the result of some painstaking research.  Do you have a rebuttal?
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