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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #100 on: January 26, 2019, 08:50:27 pm »
Voters are charged with convincing...no President ever born could "convince" these NT/RINO's to vote for a wall. You are trying to set up an impossible standard...a rather silly one.

That's OK.  Your feelings for Trump are more than silly.

It's the President's job to convince the Congress to enact his policies.  He said he could do it.  He couldn't do it.

That's pretty much all there is to it.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #101 on: January 26, 2019, 08:51:58 pm »

Yeah, but they were getting back pay and could always negotiate with landlords and grocers. In other words, they could make the great deals he couldn't?

Well the AT's can't have it 'both' ways.  It's either that Trump didn't really need the wall funding he shut the gov down over ..... and thus, he lied to the American people....

or he really did need that funding.   The AT's trying to make it look like Trump didn't need that funding, and is already 'building the wall', are making it sound like Trump lied.  Hilarious, when you think about it.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #102 on: January 26, 2019, 08:53:48 pm »
Actually, it was two years of near total Never-Trump GOP control of the government. 

Liking where it got us?

You mean Lindsey Graham?
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #103 on: January 26, 2019, 08:54:24 pm »
That's OK.  Your feelings for Trump are more than silly.

It's the President's job to convince the Congress to enact his policies.  He said he could do it.  He couldn't do it.

That's pretty much all there is to it.

He didn't succeed.  IF he truly wanted a wall he would have fought this battle long ago when he had a full majority.  He didn't.  Nor did he completely repeal Bammycare.  The tax ramifications of his new tax plan will become apparent when each of us files our taxes; so far, as our first years as seniors on social security it looks like we're going to get royally screwed.

I'm glad we don't have Hillary.  Jury for me is still out on the justices he's placed.  Unemployment is down.  That's about it.

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #104 on: January 26, 2019, 08:54:52 pm »
Come on, you can't say out loud that you hate someone that need something from.


She obviously doesn't GAF....


“It’s like a manhood thing for him. As if manhood could ever be associated with him. This wall thing.”
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #105 on: January 26, 2019, 08:55:52 pm »
That's OK.  Your feelings for Trump are more than silly.

It's the President's job to convince the Congress to enact his policies.  He said he could do it.  He couldn't do it.

That's pretty much all there is to it.

And I would not forget, many people fighting tooth and nail against Trump. Look how hard it was to get Kavanaugh nominated. The odds are against them, they tried. At least, let's tell the whole story.

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #106 on: January 26, 2019, 08:57:16 pm »
   I take exception to that @240B None of us are cheering at this recent failure of President Trump in securing the Border Wall (after 2 years).  WE are merely saying 'We told you So'.
   It's extremely unfortunate that there are Briefers who believe that some of US want this Country to fail because we NEVER trusted Trump like some of you do.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #107 on: January 26, 2019, 08:57:39 pm »
   With all due respect @Mesaclone It is unfortunate that you believe my posting history here represents hate of any kind, for truly in my heart ~ I hate no one, it always corrodes the vessel that carries it.
   Perhaps, I'm just a few steps ahead of you in this political theatre in believing that Trump is not the answer to the question, never was, whatever the question was, he is a 72yo showman, not apt to change and more importantly his advisors more often than not-suc.

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #108 on: January 26, 2019, 09:00:51 pm »
Well the AT's can't have it 'both' ways.  It's either that Trump didn't really need the wall funding he shut the gov down over ..... and thus, he lied to the American people....

or he really did need that funding.   The AT's trying to make it look like Trump didn't need that funding, and is already 'building the wall', are making it sound like Trump lied.  Hilarious, when you think about it.


Oh, I know and I pretty much said the same thing here...

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,349181.msg1901100.html#msg1901100

Remember when Trump said the wall would be X amount of feet high, concrete and rebar, stretching from Gulf to Pacific? Just like everything else with him, the story and parameters change when it's convenient.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #109 on: January 26, 2019, 09:01:24 pm »
Come on, you can't say out loud that you hate someone that need something from.

Oh sure you can.   Trump can... and does.   Have you seen his latest tweet wherein he essentially called Pelosi a fool?  lolol

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Only fools, or people with a political agenda, don’t want a Wall or Steel Barrier to protect our Country from Crime, Drugs and Human Trafficking. It will happen - it always does!

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #110 on: January 26, 2019, 09:07:11 pm »
He's fought all the way, he promised to try and do things. Some remarks are nothing less than the way, Carrion circle. Maybe he could have made better attempts, he has tried and this is not over. I helped elect a president, not a magician.

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #111 on: January 26, 2019, 09:08:20 pm »
You don't know if it is a failure. You want every i dotted and every t crossed. For me, Trump has been successful just in getting this issue on the table. This respite is only 3 weeks and oh, boy, @corbe , then, watch out. Trump's a genius negotiator. This is all part of the process.

And again, the guy you have been plugging, has been supporting Trump. So, you have a blind spot. You are being divisive.  Still, we think the world of you.

   Your right @TomSea I don't know, no one knows.  Believe it or Not, I think I have tempered my comments somewhat today, primarily due to PM's I received last night. 
   I don't want Trump to fail, I'm just disappointed, as most here are, of the inevitably of it all.   Very, Very few in DC want Immigration Reform, of any type.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #112 on: January 26, 2019, 09:08:31 pm »

Oh, I know and I pretty much said the same thing here...

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,349181.msg1901100.html#msg1901100

Remember when Trump said the wall would be X amount of feet high, concrete and rebar, stretching from Gulf to Pacific? Just like everything else with him, the story and parameters change when it's convenient.

I never believe stump speeches full of red meat, especially his.  Over-the-top stuff like that gets said, and I know better than to believe it.  Been around this game too long.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #113 on: January 26, 2019, 09:10:30 pm »
   Your right @TomSea I don't know, no one knows.  Believe it or Not, I think I have tempered my comments somewhat today, primarily due to PM's I received last night. 
   I don't want Trump to fail, I'm just disappointed, as most here are, of the inevitably of it all.   Very, Very few in DC want Immigration Reform, of any type.

It's frustrating as all get-out...knowing these idiots in government are sending the country to Heck, and dragging us all along for the ride.

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #114 on: January 26, 2019, 09:11:05 pm »
He didn't succeed.  IF he truly wanted a wall he would have fought this battle long ago when he had a full majority. 

Of course the President wants the wall @libertybele   He's been doing remarkably well against the headwinds of GOP NTs in Congress.

Here's a link to an update on how the first pittance of wall money from the last budget almost a year ago is being spent.  These updates are from late 2018:

  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,349268.0.html

The President needs more money now to finish these walls and start new ones.  (He also needs the money for sensors and guard towers).

Please don't question his commitment to the wall .... I also know he's going to get the money, one way or the other.   happy77

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #115 on: January 26, 2019, 09:11:26 pm »
I never believe stump speeches full of red meat, especially his.  Over-the-top stuff like that gets said, and I know better than to believe it.  Been around this game too long.

I'm still steamed about this one: "...And I'm the one who will not raise taxes. My opponent now says he'll raise them as a last resort, or a third resort. But when a politician talks like that, you know that's one resort he'll be checking into. My opponent won't rule out raising taxes. But I will. And the Congress will push me to raise taxes and I'll say no. And they'll push, and I'll say no, and they'll push again, and I'll say, to them, "Read my lips: no new taxes."

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #116 on: January 26, 2019, 09:15:20 pm »
Of course, those who seem to be pointing out this so-called failure appear to be those who were staunchly against him from the get go.  This episode is not over, we will see. In the meantime, unquestionably, there is a lot to take solace over. Many good things have happened.

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #117 on: January 26, 2019, 09:15:32 pm »
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WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) today issued the following statement on the passage of legislation to temporarily reopen the federal government while negotiations continue to fund border security and build the wall.

"I am glad the Schumer shutdown is over," Sen. Cruz said. "I am glad federal workers will finally be paid. For weeks, Democrats held their paychecks hostage. Yesterday, I fought hard to immediately pay every single essential federal employee - every essential employee at the Coast Guard, the TSA, air traffic controllers, Border Patrol agents, ICE agents, FBI agents, and those throughout law enforcement. Chuck Schumer and the Democrats cynically objected to that legislation and killed it on the Senate floor.

"The Democrats have claimed that, once the shutdown ends, they are willing to negotiate in good faith to secure the border. Given their behavior, there is considerable reason to be skeptical of their claim. But, now, we will see if they actually meant what they said.

"The media will obsess over the short-term political fight. But what matters is enacting real solutions to the real problems of this country. We have a crisis at our border, one that Texas experiences first-hand. We need real border security, including physical barriers to stop drug traffickers and human traffickers. I will continue to lead the fight to secure the border and get the job done. We must keep our word to the American people.

"Perhaps the Democrats will end their partisan obstruction, set aside their hatred of the president, and agree to a reasonable compromise to actually secure the border. I hope so.

"If not - if Democrats continue to embrace open borders at the expense of the American people - then today's actions have made it all but inevitable that the president will declare a national emergency and deploy the funds and manpower necessary to build a steel barrier at high-traffic locations on the border."

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #118 on: January 26, 2019, 09:19:03 pm »
I'm still steamed about this one: "...And I'm the one who will not raise taxes. My opponent now says he'll raise them as a last resort, or a third resort. But when a politician talks like that, you know that's one resort he'll be checking into. My opponent won't rule out raising taxes. But I will. And the Congress will push me to raise taxes and I'll say no. And they'll push, and I'll say no, and they'll push again, and I'll say, to them, "Read my lips: no new taxes."

You should be steamed.  I am.  That one was right up there with "If you like your Doctor..."
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #119 on: January 26, 2019, 09:19:49 pm »
Here's how the President has been spending the initial down payment of $1.6 billion from March 2018.  Updates are from late 2018.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,349268.0.html
 

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #120 on: January 26, 2019, 09:20:28 pm »
I never believe stump speeches full of red meat, especially his.  Over-the-top stuff like that gets said, and I know better than to believe it.  Been around this game too long.

People were so full of hope.  I never believed he could do what he promised.  And now that he has I believe it has created a push for unending caravans.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #121 on: January 26, 2019, 09:21:22 pm »
You should be steamed.  I am.  That one was right up there with "If you like your Doctor..."


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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #122 on: January 26, 2019, 09:21:56 pm »
   Hopefully now he can take a jaunt down to Mar~a~Lago and clear his head, Round 2, in 3 weeks, will also be brutal, for all of us.
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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #123 on: January 26, 2019, 09:27:10 pm »
   Hopefully now he can take a jaunt down to Mar~a~Lago and clear his head, Round 2, in 3 weeks, will also be brutal, for all of us.

The next three weeks will be a sweeping of the democrats into a corner. The weeks will end with the rest of the wall being built with the additional money @corbe   

Look how far we've come since the first $1.6 billion in March:  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,349268.0.html

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Re: Trump: Ending shutdown was ‘in no way a concession’
« Reply #124 on: January 26, 2019, 09:31:37 pm »
People were so full of hope.  I never believed he could do what he promised.  And now that he has I believe it has created a push for unending caravans.

I think Obama started that push for caravans, and like much of life, they will have to be consistently resisted to dissuade them once encouraged.  It's like a kid who figured out there's no lock on the cookie jar.  He'll test it a bunch of times after you install the lock.
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