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Trump's Midterm Paper~What's your Grade?

A+
8 (14.8%)
B (Surprising)
20 (37%)
C (Adequate)
7 (13%)
D (Shows some Promise)
6 (11.1%)
F (I'm that pizzed)
10 (18.5%)
We need more Bread and Circuses and free weed for ALL
3 (5.6%)

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Voting closed: February 07, 2019, 09:13:04 PM

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Trump's Midterm Paper~What's your Grade?
« on: January 08, 2019, 09:13:04 PM »
    In less than 2 weeks, 1/20, President Trump has been in Office for 2 Years.
    I'm certain that a few of you have already formed an opinion of what's transpired and are not in anyway BIAS. 
    All I'm asking is that you give him a fair and honest Grade.
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Re: Trump's Midterm Paper~What's your Grade?
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2019, 09:25:17 PM »
He got an A+ from me simply because he has done more in two years to attack the heart of the problem in Washington (the unelected bureaucrats who run every agency of the government) than all the previous presidents of my 70 years on this planet.

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Re: Trump's Midterm Paper~What's your Grade?
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2019, 10:36:07 PM »
Did not vote for Trump, but I had hopes he would prove me wrong and do some amazing things.

Well, he proved me wrong all right.  His presidency is worse than I could ever have imagined.  Actually, there is no presidency -- just one long phony-baloney reality tv show. 

I'd give Trump an F, but that's not an option in this poll (bread, circuses and free weed doesn't cover my opinion).

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Re: Trump's Midterm Paper~What's your Grade?
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2019, 10:44:56 PM »
   I fixed ya up @Applewood unfairly, you got the two free 'weed for all' votes in 'F' (don't know how to fix that), this ain't 538 after all.
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Re: Trump's Midterm Paper~What's your Grade?
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2019, 11:12:52 PM »
I always go for the weed or booze option.  Can't fail.
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Re: Trump's Midterm Paper~What's your Grade?
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2019, 11:35:02 PM »
He got an A+ from me simply because he has done more in two years to attack the heart of the problem in Washington (the unelected bureaucrats who run every agency of the government) than all the previous presidents of my 70 years on this planet.

What this guy says. Agitators are necessary for positive change.

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Re: Trump's Midterm Paper~What's your Grade?
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2019, 11:40:18 PM »
   Here's a Video of an Agitator making a positive change to the GOP.


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Re: Trump's Midterm Paper~What's your Grade?
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2019, 11:43:02 PM »
   Here's a Video of an Agitator making a positive change to the GOP.

And here is the speech the candidate you voted for in 2016 gave tonight......

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Re: Trump's Midterm Paper~What's your Grade?
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2019, 12:35:26 AM »
Did not vote for Trump, but I had hopes he would prove me wrong and do some amazing things.

Well, he proved me wrong all right.  His presidency is worse than I could ever have imagined.  Actually, there is no presidency -- just one long phony-baloney reality tv show. 

I'd give Trump an F, but that's not an option in this poll (bread, circuses and free weed doesn't cover my opinion).

I didn't vote for him, and I gave him a B.

He proved me wrong.  I thought he'd use his "pen and phone" and push for more and more power to be transferred to the executive branch.  That was perhaps my worst fear.  But, after a few initial missteps, I'm amazed to say this guy is probably the POTUS who has most respected the power of congress (to completely and utterly fail) to do their job in my lifetime.

I'd give Paul Ryan an F, if @corbe had the stones to post an equivalent poll.
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Re: Trump's Midterm Paper~What's your Grade?
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2019, 03:33:46 AM »
   I fixed ya up @Applewood unfairly, you got the two free 'weed for all' votes in 'F' (don't know how to fix that), this ain't 538 after all.

Thanks @corbe but I was not complaining about the lack of an F option; just trying to clumsily make a point.  It's your poll and you can set it up however you wish.  Did not mean to give you grief.  Lord knows you get enough of that around here and undeservedly so. 

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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2019, 03:51:42 AM »
I didn't vote for him, and I gave him a B.

He proved me wrong.  I thought he'd use his "pen and phone" and push for more and more power to be transferred to the executive branch.  That was perhaps my worst fear.  But, after a few initial missteps, I'm amazed to say this guy is probably the POTUS who has most respected the power of congress (to completely and utterly fail) to do their job in my lifetime.

I'd give Paul Ryan an F, if @corbe had the stones to post an equivalent poll.

I would not be so sure that Trump does not intend to take on more executive power to himself.  He seems to have a great admiration for dictators like Putin and Kim and he has on occasion expressed a desire to do things of a constitutionally questionable nature like suppress the press.  So far, he hasn't acted on his ideas in that regard, but he may still try. 

And I think most of us are/were already aware that congress under Republican control was a massive failure.  We didn't need Trump to demonstrate it. But in doing so, Trump also highlighted his own failures.  In the last two years I did not see him making much of an effort to work with  a Republican controlled congress to accomplish immigration reform and the rest of the promises he and they made.  From the beginning of his presidency, all he did was bitch and moan about his own party and essentially goof off.  Now that Republicans have lost the House -- making it just about impossible to get things done -- he is pushing for this wall.  Where was he since 2016? 

I'm sorry, but in my mind I cannot separate the abysmal failures of congress from those of this president.  To me they are inextricably linked.    They all get a failing grade from me.

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Re: Trump's Midterm Paper~What's your Grade?
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2019, 09:18:29 AM »
I gave him a "B",  for the good things he's done for the economy (corporate tax cuts, tax and regulatory reform,  common sense regarding ObamaCare) and for standing up for ordinary Americans.    I still won't support him for the 2020 nomination because these good things need to be preserved and continued,  and Trump, if re-nominated, is going to have his clock cleaned.   
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Re: Trump's Midterm Paper~What's your Grade?
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2019, 09:24:08 AM »
    In less than 2 weeks, 1/20, President Trump has been in Office for 2 Years.
    I'm certain that a few of you have already formed an opinion of what's transpired and are not in anyway BIAS. 
    All I'm asking is that you give him a fair and honest Grade.

What grade did/do you give him?
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Re: Trump's Midterm Paper~What's your Grade?
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2019, 09:26:51 AM »
Did not vote for Trump, but I had hopes he would prove me wrong and do some amazing things.

Well, he proved me wrong all right.  His presidency is worse than I could ever have imagined.  Actually, there is no presidency -- just one long phony-baloney reality tv show. 

I'd give Trump an F, but that's not an option in this poll (bread, circuses and free weed doesn't cover my opinion).

And yet.... the economy is booming.   Taxes and fuel costs are down.  Employment/jobs are up.  Spending is, likewise and accordingly, up.  Which means more money going into the coffers (general fund) for spending items like the military and national defense.   With all due respect.....

how, exactly, would that equate to an "F" or lower in your alternate reality universe? 
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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2019, 09:29:23 AM »
And yet.... the economy is booming.   Taxes and fuel costs are down.  Employment/jobs are up.  Spending is, likewise and accordingly, up.  Which means more money going into the coffers (general fund) for spending items like the military and national defense.   With all due respect.....

how, exactly, would that equate to an "F" or lower in your alternate reality universe?

Even the most ardent never-Trumper, it seems to me, has to acknowledge that good things he has done for the economy.   
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« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2019, 09:36:38 AM »
Even the most ardent never-Trumper, it seems to me, has to acknowledge that good things he has done for the economy.

Ok.  Who are you and what have you done with the real Jazzhead???
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« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2019, 09:49:59 AM »
Ok.  Who are you and what have you done with the real Jazzhead???

Time and again I've acknowledged President Trump's policy accomplishments even as I've criticized the improvisational way in which he conducts his Presidency.   A grade of "B" (surprising) is appropriate.   But that doesn't mean he'll be re-elected.   I continue to believe he will declare victory on his terms, step down and not run for the re-nomination, and return to his family and businesses.   
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Re: Trump's Midterm Paper~What's your Grade?
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2019, 09:54:38 AM »
I always go for the weed or booze option.  Can't fail.

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Re: Trump's Midterm Paper~What's your Grade?
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2019, 10:18:03 AM »
Time and again I've acknowledged President Trump's policy accomplishments even as I've criticized the improvisational way in which he conducts his Presidency.   A grade of "B" (surprising) is appropriate.   But that doesn't mean he'll be re-elected.   I continue to believe he will declare victory on his terms, step down and not run for the re-nomination, and return to his family and businesses.

On the state of the economy alone, even the hard-core NTers should give him at least a D.  I would give him either a C+ (awaiting the outcome of that border control promise) or a B, myself. 

As for him stepping down, I doubt it.  Rush touched on the meme of how Trump is not just giving up.  He said we should be thankful that Trump isn't or hasn't just given up when most people would have by now.  I don't think giving up is in Trump.  But then, I'm not living with the constant, 24/7 assault on myself and my family like he is.
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« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2019, 10:32:13 AM »
I thought you would go for pizza and kitties. @Cyber Liberty

I've always thought they were related? 888mouth

The pizza part is, anyway....
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« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2019, 10:40:59 AM »
On the state of the economy alone, even the hard-core NTers should give him at least a D.  I would give him either a C+ (awaiting the outcome of that border control promise) or a B, myself. 

As for him stepping down, I doubt it.  Rush touched on the meme of how Trump is not just giving up.  He said we should be thankful that Trump isn't or hasn't just given up when most people would have by now.  I don't think giving up is in Trump.  But then, I'm not living with the constant, 24/7 assault on myself and my family like he is.

I don't suggest he'll "give up".   But he can declare that he's righted the economy,  and changed the national conversation in the direction of policies that promote jobs for Americans and assert America's interests on the world stage.   He can declare that he's never lusted after the Presidency as a professional politician and, like George  Washington, is ready to step down and return to private life.

I think that's the best scenario for Trump and his legacy,  and for the future cause of conservatism.    The Dems have jumped off the radical left-wing deep end,  and are unrecognizable as a "loyal opposition".   Defeating the Dem nominee with the best candidate possible is absolutely critical.     

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Re: Trump's Midterm Paper~What's your Grade?
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2019, 10:46:47 AM »
I don't suggest he'll "give up".   But he can declare that he's righted the economy,  and changed the national conversation in the direction of policies that promote jobs for Americans and assert America's interests on the world stage.   He can declare that he's never lusted after the Presidency as a professional politician and, like George  Washington, is ready to step down and return to private life.

I think that's the best scenario for Trump and his legacy,  and for the future cause of conservatism.    The Dems have jumped off the radical left-wing deep end,  and are unrecognizable as a "loyal opposition".   Defeating the Dem nominee with the best candidate possible is absolutely critical.    

Which is.... the exact reason 'why' I doubt that he will step down by not running again... since I think he thinks that he is the "best candidate possible".   And considering some of the idiots we have that will run (like Mit McCain, Flakey Flake or Kasich)...

he's probably correct.

I don't think the GOP Trump base will be that 'fired up' to vote for Pence like they did for Trump.  I could be wrong, though.... especially if the lefties are stupid enough to pick Hillary again as their "champion" for socialism. 
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Re: Trump's Midterm Paper~What's your Grade?
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2019, 10:57:16 AM »
I don't suggest he'll "give up".   But he can declare that he's righted the economy,  and changed the national conversation in the direction of policies that promote jobs for Americans and assert America's interests on the world stage.   He can declare that he's never lusted after the Presidency as a professional politician and, like George  Washington, is ready to step down and return to private life.

I think that's the best scenario for Trump and his legacy,  and for the future cause of conservatism.    The Dems have jumped off the radical left-wing deep end,  and are unrecognizable as a "loyal opposition".   Defeating the Dem nominee with the best candidate possible is absolutely critical.     

You're very clever my friend.  You continue to paint a picture of a dire outcome if the President runs for reelection to support your call for him not to run again …. saying this is the only way to beat the opposition and save conservatism.

You're good … but not THAT good because those of us who know you understand your goal is to destroy conservatism and help usher in a victory for the socialist democrats.  I can hear your denial as I type …. but there is no other reason for you to continually go out of your way to convince Briefers that suppressing 50% of the Republican base in the next presidential election will be the very best thing for us.



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« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2019, 11:05:33 AM »
I don't suggest he'll "give up".   But he can declare that he's righted the economy,  and changed the national conversation in the direction of policies that promote jobs for Americans and assert America's interests on the world stage.   He can declare that he's never lusted after the Presidency as a professional politician and, like George  Washington, is ready to step down and return to private life.

I think that's the best scenario for Trump and his legacy,  and for the future cause of conservatism.    The Dems have jumped off the radical left-wing deep end,  and are unrecognizable as a "loyal opposition".   Defeating the Dem nominee with the best candidate possible is absolutely critical.     

Do you still think Kasich is that "best candidate?"
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Re: Trump's Midterm Paper~What's your Grade?
« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2019, 11:13:59 AM »
You're very clever my friend.  You continue to paint a picture of a dire outcome if the President runs for reelection to support your call for him not to run again …. saying this is the only way to beat the opposition and save conservatism.

You're good … but not THAT good because those of us who know you understand your goal is to destroy conservatism and help usher in a victory for the socialist democrats.  I can hear your denial as I type …. but there is no other reason for you to continually go out of your way to convince Briefers that suppressing 50% of the Republican base in the next presidential election will be the very best thing for us.

Oh come on!   I thought he was doing good at pretending.  (Oscar-level?)
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