Yes or no; opposing a border wall makes you an enemy of the American people

[roamer_1]

Now they've gone and blemished them so much with bacteria that no one can eat a damn salad anymore!  How does that factor into the Equation??

Grow your own.

[EdJames]

Grow your own.

I served time for that many years ago....  no thanks.

[roamer_1]

I served time for that many years ago....  no thanks.

That was probably a different kind of lettuce.

[bigheadfred]

Grow your own.

Will they let us?

[bigheadfred]

That was probably a different kind of lettuce.

He probably left a vapor trail.

[roamer_1]

He probably left a vapor trail.

Prolly shoulda left a chemtrail... Everybody would turn a blind eye...

Speaking of a blind eye, howzyerface? Got Pirate?

[bigheadfred]

Prolly shoulda left a chemtrail... Everybody would turn a blind eye...

Speaking of a blind eye, howzyerface? Got Pirate?

Monday was good. Today it is blurry. Scheduling another appt with the IDOC. I mean, eye doc. Along with Sir @EdJames, I need no further appts with the dept of corrections...

[EdJames]

Monday was good. Today it is blurry. Scheduling another appt with the IDOC. I mean, eye doc. Along with Sir @EdJames, I need no further appts with the dept of corrections...

I didn't mind the appts so much, it was the unscheduled visits that torqued me off.

[roamer_1]

Monday was good. Today it is blurry.

Did you forget to take the tape off?

I need no further appts with the dept of corrections...

There but for the grace of God go I...

Though I am a quick study... A few times though County and I decided on a different direction.
 

[jpsb]

No, Conservatives are anti-illegal alien... And generally pro-immigration.

 

[RoosGirl]

Right. 

Wrong on both counts.  Even the anti-immigrant “studies” have been forced to conclude that illegals do, in fact, end up paying taxes.  That’s a contribution, right there.  So is the fact that they typically do jobs that most “Real Murcans” wouldn’t do for twice the wage.  That’s another contribution.

Since there don't appear to be any "real" statistics, I'm not certain that can be proved that most illegals pay taxes.  But please, lay the data on me if you've got it.

[Dexter]

Not if it simply pushes more people into entering on visitors visas that they then overstay.  Then it makes the problem worse.

Not everybody will do that though. Yes, some will find other means of entering, but not to the extent that there would be no impact on the amount of illegals coming in. A wall would mitigate the flow of illegal immigrants. It's impossible to know to what extent it would mitigate the flow, but to some extent it absolutely would.

Locking your door doesn't guarantee a thief won't enter your home, but most people do it anyway. Why do you think that is?

[aligncare]

Not everybody will do that though. Yes, some will find other means of entering, but not to the extent that there would be no impact on the amount of illegals coming in. A wall would mitigate the flow of illegal immigrants. It's impossible to know to what extent it would mitigate the flow, but to some extent it absolutely would.

Locking your door doesn't guarantee a thief won't enter your home, but most people do it anyway. Why do you think that is?

Poor form there @Dexter   You should use the politically correct official media-sanctioned term, migrant.

[jpsb]

But y’all know to a penny that illegal aliens cost more than they contribute.

Pfft.  Liberals have their global warming cult; conservatives apparently have an anti-immigrant cult. 

And 42% is nothing to sneeze at.  It means, for one thing, that overstaying a visa is relatively easy, which means in turn that to the extent the Holy Border Wall has an effect, it will principally show up as more visa overstays.

42% is a lot fewer than "most". Why is it that 90% of the times you use Democrat talking points?

[austingirl]

A nation is defined by borders. If you are against the wall you are de facto against our nation. Yes, there are those that overstay on visas but the drug and human trafficking would be much less with an enforced border.

[Oceander]

A nation is defined by borders. If you are against the wall you are de facto against our nation. Yes, there are those that overstay on visas but the drug and human trafficking would be much less with an enforced border.

Bullshit.

[Sanguine]

Bullshit.

Got anything to back your bullshit up with, or is that just a fervent desire on your part?

[Oceander]

Got anything to back your bullshit up with, or is that just a fervent desire on your part?

“Bullshit” is all that comment deserves, as should be self-evident. 

There is no wall along the US-Canada border, and no plans to build one.  Does that mean that neither country is well-defined?  Do both countries lack sovereignty because there is no wall along that border?

Is it impossible to distinguish between Canada as a nation and the US as a nation because there is no wall between them?

Merely stating the conclusions that stupid comment necessarily entails should be more than sufficient to demonstrate what pure unadulterated bullshit that statement is.

[Sanguine]

“Bullshit” is all that comment deserves, as should be self-evident. 

There is no wall along the US-Canada border, and no plans to build one.  Does that mean that neither country is well-defined?  Do both countries lack sovereignty because there is no wall along that border?

Is it impossible to distinguish between Canada as a nation and the US as a nation because there is no wall between them?

Merely stating the conclusions that stupid comment necessarily entails should be more than sufficient to demonstrate what pure unadulterated bullshit that statement is.

First of all, @austingirl said "borders" which you transformed into "wall" for the apparent purpose of ridiculing her comment.  The border between Canada and the U.S. does indeed exist and is generally respected by those on both sides of the border.  It exists as an actual border.

The border between Mexico and the U.S. is not respected, and is a conduit for drugs, human trafficking and illegal alien entries.  In order for it to be a proper border, it does need a wall, or fence, or whatever.

[Right_in_Virginia]

“Bullshit” is all that comment deserves, as should be self-evident. 

There is no wall along the US-Canada border, and no plans to build one.  Does that mean that neither country is well-defined?  Do both countries lack sovereignty because there is no wall along that border?

Is it impossible to distinguish between Canada as a nation and the US as a nation because there is no wall between them?

Merely stating the conclusions that stupid comment necessarily entails should be more than sufficient to demonstrate what pure unadulterated bullshit that statement is.

[libertybele]

We need a physical barrier.  Illegal immigration is out of control and is bankrupting this country. To oppose a wall to secure our borders indeed makes one an enemy of the U.S. and is also a threat to our nation's sovereignty.

[the_doc]

Heck no.

I have to cut some slack to members of my family who oppose the wall, but whom I love dearly. They are old school democrats and they don’t hate America. Sorry if that discombobulates anyone.

Besides, in the near future innovations in technology will probably eliminate the need for walls at the border. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

I would say that being a sub rosa enemy of America is what makes some folks oppose the wall, rather than the other way around.  (Some folks, but not all.)  And there are far too many Americans who hate our Constitutional Republic--which is the underlying reason why they loathe consistent Republicans.

[bigheadfred]

The people of Canada are, for the most part, educated.

The vast majority coming from the south are uneducated savages fresh out of the jungle. An actual wall down south is something they would get. Deservedly.

[jpsb]

We need a physical barrier.  Illegal immigration is out of control and is bankrupting this country. To oppose a wall to secure our borders indeed makes one an enemy of the U.S. and is also a threat to our nation's sovereignty.

 

[mystery-ak]

@Oceander stop calling other member's posts bullshit please...they are entitled to their opinion.