Yes or no; opposing a border wall makes you an enemy of the American people

[Skeptic]

I say that yes, if you oppose the wall you oppose the
people who make the U.S.A. a wonderful place to live.
A border wall is badly needed to keep illegals out.
They say the wall is $5b dollars and where they getting
the money? Illegal immigrants drain $25 billion
dollars a year from the U.S. economy. Seems like a no
brainer from an economic viewpoint. The wall would
pay for itself very quickly. Not to mention the safety
concerns an open and unprotected border causes and
the number of jobs available to real citizens would
skyrocket when bad corporations can't hire illegal
labor. Who wouldn't want a strong border? Our enemies,
that's who. If you oppose the wall you can't be trusted.

[Skeptic]

Unemployment would drop like a fly.

[sneakypete]

Yes.

[Dexter]

if I don't do this, or if I believe that, then I'm an enemy of the people

The left is doing it too. Both sides are becoming increasingly volatile and averse to any compromise.

[Axeslinger]

The left is doing it too. Both sides are becoming increasingly volatile and averse to any compromise.

Which is why we’ll be shooting at each other inside of 10years, probably sooner.

[ABX]

I say that yes, if you oppose the wall you oppose the
people who make the U.S.A. a wonderful place to live.
A border wall is badly needed to keep illegals out.
They say the wall is $5b dollars and where they getting
the money? Illegal immigrants drain $25 billion
dollars a year from the U.S. economy. Seems like a no
brainer from an economic viewpoint. The wall would
pay for itself very quickly. Not to mention the safety
concerns an open and unprotected border causes and
the number of jobs available to real citizens would
skyrocket when bad corporations can't hire illegal
labor. Who wouldn't want a strong border? Our enemies,
that's who. If you oppose the wall you can't be trusted.

Clarification, the wall isn't $5 Billion, the wall is project to be $70-$90 Billion. Also, only a fraction of illegals walk across the border where the wall is being built so it wouldn't wipe out all $25 Billion in the expenses.

The $5 billion being fought over now is just to get started.

[ABX]

Also, 'enemy of the people's sure does seem hyperbolic. Many who support border security see the wall as a panacia that won't make a difference. It doesn't shut off the magnets that attract people here and only addresses a fraction of the issue. It is like trying to patch a broken pipe before shutting off the water main.

[aligncare]

Heck no.

I have to cut some slack to members of my family who oppose the wall, but whom I love dearly. They are old school democrats and they don’t hate America. Sorry if that discombobulates anyone.

Besides, in the near future innovations in technology will probably eliminate the need for walls at the border. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

[Sanguine]

Heck no.

I have to cut some slack to members of my family who oppose the wall, but whom I love dearly. They are old school democrats and they don’t hate America. Sorry if that discombobulates anyone.

Besides, in the near future innovations in technology will probably eliminate the need for walls at the border. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

Just out of curiousity @aligncare, how do they explain that unlimited immigration is an OK thing? 

[aligncare]

Just out of curiousity @aligncare, how do they explain that unlimited immigration is an OK thing?

For the record, I’m against illegal immigration, and as far as I know, so are they. Therefore answering the question you posed is above my pay grade.

[Sanguine]

For the record, I’m against illegal immigration, and as far as I know, so are they. Therefore answering the question you posed is above my pay grade.

OK, thanks.

[jpsb]

What good will a wall do if we continue to just let in anyone and everyone?  If this country does not take serious steps to curb illegsl immigration, the wall will be a meaningless gimmick.

The old walls don't work argument. Complete BS, walls work. There is a reason every city in the old
world had a wall around it. The great wall of China kept the Mongols out for hundreds of years. It
was so effective the Mongols had to bribe Chinese guards to open the gates in order to gain entry
into China. Hadrian's Wall kept Roman Britain safe for hundreds of years. Israel built a wall to keep
Israel safe and it works.

Walls don't work is just another NeverTrumper BS argument that is easily falsified by looking a the
history of walls. Even the much disrespect Maginot Line (wall on the French Border) worked. It
forced the German army to invade France thru Belgium which was its' purpose.

The military usefulness of walls was mitigated by the invention of gun powder. However the people
stopping ability a great big fortified wall is the same today as it's has been since the first walled
city was build over 7,000 years ago.

[aligncare]

The old walls don't work argument. Complete BS, walls work. There is a reason every city in the old
world had a wall around it. The great wall of China kept the Mongols out for hundreds of years. It
was so effective the Mongols had to bribe Chinese guards to open the gates in order to gain entry
into China. Hadrian's Wall kept Roman Britain safe for hundreds of years. Israel built a wall to keep
Israel safe and it works.

Walls don't work is just another NeverTrumper BS argument that is easily falsified by looking a the
history of walls. Even the much disrespect Maginot Line (wall on the French Border) worked. It
forced the German army to invade France thru Belgium which was its' purpose.

The military usefulness of walls was mitigated by the invention of gun powder. However the people
stopping ability a great big fortified wall is the same today as it's has been since the first walled
city was build over 7,000 years ago.

A wall is a 7th century (BC) solution to a modern problem.

...and so technological innovation will soon eliminate the need for border walls in modern times.

[corbe]

    It certainly makes you an enemy of the Trumpers if you oppose the Wall for whatever reason.  Though some I suspect are Russian Bots I suppose the majority of them are just misguided Americans.  Merry Christmas.

[jpsb]

A wall is a 7th century (BC) solution to a modern problem.

...and so technological innovation will soon eliminate the need for border walls in modern times.

You still have not explained why a big manned wall will not help prevent 100s of thousands of
illegals from walking into the USA.

A wall is not a 7th century solution, it is a 21st century solution, just ask the Israelis.

[jpsb]

    It certainly makes you an enemy of the Trumpers if you oppose the Wall for whatever reason.  Though some I suspect are Russian Bots I suppose the majority of them are just misguided Americans.  Merry Christmas.

Where we have a border wall illegal entry into the USA was reduced by over 90%. Walls work, so if
you oppose the wall you are effectively enabling illegal entry into the USA. Is the wall a magic
bullet? No, but it is an important part of the solution to securing out borders.

[bigheadfred]

Hungary has claimed that its fences on the borders with Croatia and Serbia have helped to cut the inflow of migrants by 99.7 percent since 2015. The small inland nation now has one quarter of the length of its borders protected by a fence.

“The number of successful attempts to illegally cross the border fell from 391,000 in 2015 to 18,236 in 2016 and only 1,184 in 2017,” the Hungarian prime minister’s chief security advisor, Gyorgy Bakondi, told reporters...

[Elderberry]

I believe in the wall, but not where most of you think it should be built. We should treat this invasion of migrants as an act of war. Reassign our troops to repel and attack this migrant army at its source. Destroy the drug lords, destroy the corrupt politicians, and move the southern US border from Mexico down to the southern Panamanian border. And fix this problem once and for all.

[Blizzardnh]

voted yes

Sorry...

[truth_seeker]

Illegal immigrants are our strength.

Diversity is wonderful.

Build kind, welcoming societies, not dark walls.

Only a Trump loving orange Hitler worshipping racist could want walls.

Jesus would carry immigrants over the border, on his back, by the hundreds, feeding them on the way. Not to mention washing their feet, in consecrated conservative waters.

Only dirty rotten Freepers, from the terrible old homeland, could hate immigrates. Once a Notion.

[sneakypete]

What a surprise!   

@Applewood

It's not MY fault you can't handle the truth.

[sneakypete]

A wall is a 7th century (BC) solution to a modern problem.

...and so technological innovation will soon eliminate the need for border walls in modern times.

Water is a "Same day as the world became alive" creation,and it still works as good as ever.

[sneakypete]

Illegal immigrants are our strength.

Diversity is wonderful.

Build kind, welcoming societies, not dark walls.

Only a Trump loving orange Hitler worshipping racist could want walls.

Jesus would carry immigrants over the border, on his back, by the hundreds, feeding them on the way. Not to mention washing their feet, in consecrated conservative waters.

Only dirty rotten Freepers, from the terrible old homeland, could hate immigrates. Once a Notion.

@truth_seeker

"We iz da wurld,senor!

"We iz da peep-pulls....."

[Cyber Liberty]

A wall is a 7th century (BC) solution to a modern problem.

...and so technological innovation will soon eliminate the need for border walls in modern times.

I'd agree with that, if by "technological innovation" you mean "minefield."

[Oceander]

Stop it.