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Gasping for breath
« on: December 21, 2018, 05:59:36 pm »
So......,my shortness of breath suddenly went from being a minor irritation to "I can't walk from the living room to the bathroom without having to sit and gasp for breath when I get there,and rest up to get the strength to walk back to the living room."

So I go to the local Hindu pulmo guy I have been seeing for a few years,and he takes an x-ray and tells me I probably have lung cancer and he needs to do a biopsy immediately. He then asks me what meds I am on,and immediately tells me I need to stop taking the Plavix "right now because I can't operate as long as you are taking it."

I tell him "I can't quit taking it because my heart doc told me I have to take it daily for at least a year after my recent heart surgery (stent) or I could die."

So he laughs,and says "Well,I guess I will see you in a year,then."

My response was "No,you won't. I will be seeing a doctor about this,but it won't be you." because I think a year is too long to wait,and there MUST be an alternative drug I can take. NOT really happy about his cavalier approach to lung cancer.

So I get an appointment through a local family doc to see another pulmonary surgeon,and this guy is all business,despite his dyed hair and hipster "man bun". He comes in the room,sits down,asks me what has been going on,and tells me  "I am going to schedule you for a CAT scan tomorrow morning (last Thursday) at the hospital . Let's see for sure what it is we are dealing with before we do anything else,and then come back on Monday so we can go over the results and make plans.",smiles,shakes my hand,and walks out of the room after telling me "See the woman at the front counter and she will give you all the paperwork.

I go have the CAT scan on Friday,and on Monday go back to see him again,and he walks into the room and announces,"Your lungs are full of water and you are drowning. See the woman at the counter for the paperwork to admit you to the hospital tomorrow morning so I can drain your lungs",smiles at me,and says "See you tomorrow!"

By this point,I am loving the HELL out of my new doc. This guy doesn't screw around,and he doesn't schedule your appointments for 2 weeks or 2 months into the future."

I go to the hospital the next morning,and by now I am so weak from lack of oxygen I can't walk in from the nearest handicapped parking space. I get part way,go to my knees,and ask someone passing to have them send a wheelchair out for me. They roll me in to the registration desk and then roll me to the room where the surgery is to take place,and then the doc shows up.

He uses a scalpel to cut a hold in my back,and then sticks a needle connected to a rubber hose into my right lung. The hose is connected to a 1 liter bottle I had already seen and laughed about while asking him "You don't really think you need a jar that big do you?",and he tells me "Sometimes we fill one up." I kinda thought he was screwing with me on that one because where is the room for air if you have that much water in your lungs?

Damned if he didn't drain 1 and 3/4 liters of water out of just my right lung. No kidding. Looked like beer or urine. Look at a 2 liter bottle of Pepsi for reference to how much fluid I had in my right lung. It still seems impossible to me,but I saw the jars.

He finishes up and tells me he is going to send it off for analysis and will see me next Wednesday to discuss what he finds out and to make future plans. For all I know I might actually have lung cancer,but I would love to know how the Hindu doc could see a spot on my lungs when they were covered with water,and not see the freaking water.

I do know that I am going to try to talk him into draining the left lung,too.

VERY little pain involved. Maybe a bee sting. The most discomfort came after a lot of the water had drained out,and suddenly there is a vacuum in my lung and I am not breathing deeply enough to fill it. When I do breathe that deeply,it makes me want to cough.

BUT.......,after sitting around for 15-20 minutes,damned if I didn't get up out of the wheel chair and walk to another room to give blood,and then walk to my truck in the parking lot!

I also slept like a clubbed baby seal when I got home. Hadn't been sleeping worth a damn because of the pressure on my heart when I laid down.

I am once again panting for breath and and exhausted,and it worries me some. I am hoping it comes from me being so far down it will take me a few days to recover enough to get my endurance back. Or at least some of it.

Besides the hack Hindu doc screwing me around and wasting my time and money,the freaking VA has been giving me inhalers for the last couple of years despite me telling them the inhalers don't work worth a damn.

It really boils down to being lucky enough to find the right doctor,doesn't it?
« Last Edit: December 21, 2018, 06:04:07 pm by sneakypete »
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Re: Gasping for breath
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2018, 06:28:45 pm »
I really didn't know where you were going with this .... and was a little hesitant to keep reading @sneakypete .  But I'm glad I did and even happier you're okay.

Yes, a doctor sometimes leads you deeper into the pit.  I myself am a firm believer in second and third opinions.  One way or the other they are always helpful.

And as of this moment I know I will be much more receptive to and respectful of any man bun doc in my future.  Promise.     happy77


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Re: Gasping for breath
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2018, 06:36:19 pm »
I really didn't know where you were going with this .... and was a little hesitant to keep reading @sneakypete .  But I'm glad I did and even happier you're okay.

Yes, a doctor sometimes leads you deeper into the pit.  I myself am a firm believer in second and third opinions.  One way or the other they are always helpful.

And as of this moment I know I will be much more receptive to and respectful of any man bun doc in my future.  Promise.     happy77


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Thanks! I post stuff like this to maybe help others who are sick and as ignorant of medical care as  I am. You never know who might read it and suddenly realize "HEY! I have been having the same problem,and need to contact a pulmonary surgeon and find out what the problem is!"
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Re: Gasping for breath
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2018, 06:37:36 pm »
Glad that you are finally getting the right treatment!

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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2018, 06:39:04 pm »
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Thanks! I post stuff like this to maybe help others who are sick and as ignorant of medical care as  I am. You never know who might read it and suddenly realize "HEY! I have been having the same problem,and need to contact a pulmonary surgeon and find out what the problem is!"

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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2018, 06:53:41 pm »
Glad that you are finally getting the right treatment!

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Re: Gasping for breath
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2018, 07:35:03 pm »
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Sneaky, bless the doctor who knew what to do and did it quickly.  Seven months ago, I couldn't lift my arms, couldn't sleep due to pain, so painful getting into bed and out of bed and throughout the night, just like you, but different reason.  Family doctor said, "You need an Ortho/Pain Specialist.  He didn't fool around and mess with this, immediately sent me to the right doc.  I've been through this doc putting me to sleep four different times, entering my spine in about the center, then running a needle up my spine to my neck and putting in steroids.  The pain was gone the next day.  I could use my arms and sleep without pain. 

This doc gave my arms back to me, I could use them, and I could sleep without pain. How much is that worth?  How much is it worth for your doc giving your breathing back to you?  I was an EMT (Emergency Medical Technician) and I know from what you say you were drowning more and more each day - you were dying.

Sneaky, I am glad you are alive and let me know what the doc finds out, PM me and I mean that.  Let's discuss living and how precious our time is.
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Re: Gasping for breath
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2018, 07:45:35 pm »
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I’m so sorry this happened to you. I’m glad you are doing better now. I wish doctors would listen to their patients and have a little hubris instead of G-d complexes that they know everything and anything. And we know nothing
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2018, 08:00:13 pm »
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Glad you are doing better! Had no idea anything like this was going on and cannot help but wonder if anyone has advised you as to why you had so much fluid in your lungs to begin with.
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Re: Gasping for breath
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2018, 08:09:22 pm »
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 I was an EMT (
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This doc gave my arms back to me, I could use them, and I could sleep without pain. How much is that worth?  How much is it worth for your doc giving your breathing back to you?

That's almost like asking "What is the smile of a child worth?" Some things are beyond pricing.


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Emergency Medical Technician) and I know from what you say you were drowning more and more each day - you were dying.

I went from being ok to barely able to walk in less than 3 weeks. I suspect I would have died within 2 weeks if I hadn't gotten lucky and found the right doctor. And that's all it was,pure luck. Better to be lucky than smart any day of the week. The truth is I was so oxygen-deprived I was having trouble thinking.


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Sneaky, I am glad you are alive and let me know what the doc finds out, PM me and I mean that.  Let's discuss living and how precious our time is.
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My plan is to see if I can still find this thread,and then post any future developments here so other people can learn from my experiences.
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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2018, 08:17:26 pm »
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I’m so sorry this happened to you.

Thanks,but in a way I am glad it happened because I WAS lucky enough to survive it,and maybe I can spread the word and help someone else survive it. This stuff creeps up on you so slowly you are not really aware of what is happening. You think that if you stay inside and take care of yourself that it will pass,but with this stuff it is YOU that passes,not the disease. If it had taken me a few more days to see the right doctor,it would have probably been too late.

One of the few negatives of living alone is that you have no one to nag you to do what you need to do.

Of course,that is also one of the big bonuses of living alone.

Ironically enough,the doctor I went to see to get the referal is my ex's oldest daughter. She recently graduated from medical school and opened a family clinic.

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I’m glad you are doing better now. I wish doctors would listen to their patients and have a little hubris instead of G-d complexes that they know everything and anything. And we know nothing

Well,in this case the doc knew everything,and I didn't know squat. I would have bet it would be impossible to drain almost 2 liters of water from ONE lung. I would have believed a tea spoon full,but no way in hell would I have believed 1-3/4 liters. It still doesn't make any sense to me,and I saw the bottles. In fact,it was seeing those bottles that finally convinced me I had been dying in slow-motion.
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Re: Gasping for breath
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2018, 08:21:26 pm »
@sneakypete

Glad you are doing better! Had no idea anything like this was going on and cannot help but wonder if anyone has advised you as to why you had so much fluid in your lungs to begin with.

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I have been wondering about the how and why myself. The new pulmo guy said to wait until the results of the fluid he drained come back,and then we will discuss future plans.

What gives me brain freeze is that no one before this guy even suspected I had fluid in my lungs. How is that even possible?
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Re: Gasping for breath
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2018, 08:31:35 pm »
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Glad you're ok you old curmudgeon!  Merry Christmas and best wishes for a Happy and Prosperous New Year!

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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2018, 08:36:28 pm »
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I have been wondering about the how and why myself. The new pulmo guy said to wait until the results of the fluid he drained come back,and then we will discuss future plans.

What gives me brain freeze is that no one before this guy even suspected I had fluid in my lungs. How is that even possible?

@sneakypete

Yeah!  That would get my attention as well.  Doesn't make any sense at all.
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« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2018, 09:06:37 pm »
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Oh, Pete...I had no idea.  My best wishes are with you at this tough time....
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« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2018, 10:30:55 pm »
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Glad you're ok you old curmudgeon!  Merry Christmas and best wishes for a Happy and Prosperous New Year!

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« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2018, 10:31:45 pm »
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Oh, Pete...I had no idea.  My best wishes are with you at this tough time....

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« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2018, 10:41:56 pm »
Hope you come through it Pete... We're all pullin for ya!

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« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2018, 10:50:31 pm »
@sneakypete, I had wondered what was going on with you.  I figured it was just an attack of curmudgeon.  Sorry I was wrong, and I'm very glad you got it figured out. 

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« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2018, 11:00:47 pm »
Wishing you a sneaky, speedy, very full recovery with minimum discomfort, anxiety, etc.
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« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2018, 11:01:07 pm »
@sneakypete Glad you found someone who knows what the hell they're doing.

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« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2018, 11:07:33 pm »
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Wishing you the very best, my friend!  I hope you're not alone and that you have people upon which you can depend until you get through this. 
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« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2018, 11:13:45 pm »
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Don't you Dare up and die on me or I'll never speak to you again.

As it is there's only 'bout 8 or 9 people here who unfailingly make Sense to me and you're up very high on that list.

As for Docs missing this, Nowhere beyond the field of Big Medicine is the old saw of Buyer Beware more applicable.

Gotta watch them like a hawk and then go home, get on line and Check out what the want to do or not do.

And remember that most of them get their 'continuing medical education' through the advertorials in the magazines they litter their waiting rooms with.

The amount of dirty money that changes hands between Docs and Drug Co. Reps is Staggering.

Really glad you got this correctly diagnosed and dealt with.

Hang in there.
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« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2018, 11:20:54 pm »
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Glad you are doing better! Had no idea anything like this was going on and cannot help but wonder if anyone has advised you as to why you had so much fluid in your lungs to begin with.


See if the inhalers did it.

Wouldn't surprise me.
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« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2018, 02:50:18 am »
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I had no idea you were going through this. I am glad you found a good doctor who was able to provide you with at least some short -term relief, and hope the new year will bring you continued health improvements.

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« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2018, 08:38:00 am »
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You describe a horrible and frightening condition.  I pray you are on the road to recovery.  Lando
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« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2018, 09:40:05 am »
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Thanks!

Hoping that they can find out why you "filled up" like that too!

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« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2018, 09:40:40 am »

See if the inhalers did it.

Wouldn't surprise me.

Wouldn't surprise me either.

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« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2018, 09:55:54 am »
I post stuff like this to maybe help others who are sick and as ignorant of medical care as  I am.
Well, I'm glad you did. Also glad you found the right doctor! Please continue to let us know how you're doing.
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« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2018, 09:56:18 am »
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You describe a horrible and frightening condition.  I pray you are on the road to recovery.  Lando

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« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2018, 09:58:38 am »
Well, I'm glad you did. Also glad you found the right doctor! Please continue to let us know how you're doing.

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Me to!  But I'm not worried about him now because as a brother in arms I know @sneakypete is too damned mean to die like that!
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« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2018, 10:05:52 am »
Me to!  But I'm not worried about him now because as a brother in arms I know sneakypete is too damned mean to die like that!
No argument from me!  :laugh:
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« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2018, 10:07:04 am »
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I thank you all for your concern and well-wishes,but unless things don't continue to go well I won't have anything else to report until after I see the pulmonary surgeon again on the 8th of Jan.

In the meantime I am trying to stay out of the cold,get some sleep,and am taking anti-congestion tablets to help me cough up slime now that I have air to cough it up,

"See" you all here again on the 9th.
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« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2018, 10:21:38 am »
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I'm sure glad that you seem to be in the right hands now. Make sure you give a good word to that doc back to that family doc that suggested him to you.

We had a insurance mix-up at my doc's office I've been going to for some 25 yrs. When my wife went for blood work they wouldn't accept our insurance anymore.  I should have asked around for a good family doc to go to. Instead I looked for who was close that accepted our plan. The very day I called to set up an appointment for my wife, I fell down the attic stairs and ripped open my hand and arm on that damn folding stair assembly. So I went to that new doc. He butterflied me up and said come back the next day. I came back and he said I should go to the emergency room. He wouldn't even stitch me up.

My wife went in to him for the blood work and they pushed her to take a genetics test. She saw no reason for it, but since they were really pushing her she acquiesced.  When the lab bill came in it showed a $28,000 bill for that genetics test alone. The insurance would cover around $800 of it. My wife exploded on that doc and they agreed and finally zeroed out our bill for that test.

That was the last dealings we had with that doc. And it turned out our insurance was accepted by our old doc all along.

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« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2018, 10:50:24 am »
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I'm sure glad that you seem to be in the right hands now. Make sure you give a good word to that doc back to that family doc that suggested him to you.

We had a insurance mix-up at my doc's office I've been going to for some 25 yrs. When my wife went for blood work they wouldn't accept our insurance anymore.  I should have asked around for a good family doc to go to. Instead I looked for who was close that accepted our plan. The very day I called to set up an appointment for my wife, I fell down the attic stairs and ripped open my hand and arm on that damn folding stair assembly. So I went to that new doc. He butterflied me up and said come back the next day. I came back and he said I should go to the emergency room. He wouldn't even stitch me up.

My wife went in to him for the blood work and they pushed her to take a genetics test. She saw no reason for it, but since they were really pushing her she acquiesced.  When the lab bill came in it showed a $28,000 bill for that genetics test alone. The insurance would cover around $800 of it. My wife exploded on that doc and they agreed and finally zeroed out our bill for that test.

That was the last dealings we had with that doc. And it turned out our insurance was accepted by our old doc all along.

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Unfortunately there is a LOT of that going on in the medical field.

The pulmonary surgeon I fired had started demanding payment in advance at each visit. Even from people like me who had been seeing him for years and never had a late or missed payment.

Neither the new pulmonary surgeon or anyone on his staff has even mentioned the words "bill payment" yet.
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« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2018, 01:32:01 pm »
@sneakypete Glad to here you got some relief and hoping the news you get back from the analysis is positive. It's important to remember that doctors aren't God, even if some of them think so, and it's our prerogative to find another practitioner if we aren't happy with the one we have seen. As you have shown us, that can critically important to our well being and even our lives.

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« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2018, 07:23:19 pm »
I thank you all for your concern and well-wishes,but unless things don't continue to go well I won't have anything else to report until after I see the pulmonary surgeon again on the 8th of Jan.


@sneakypete , plz ping me to new events. Hope it goes good.

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In the meantime I am trying to stay out of the cold,get some sleep,and am taking anti-congestion tablets to help me cough up slime now that I have air to cough it up,

If you want to hack it up and get air, try thyme tea.

Only fresh thyme, about a handful in 2 to 3 quarts water... bring to a rolling boil for 5 minutes, off heat, let steep over night. Strain and refrigerate. Makes a strong mix. ease into it to see where you are with it (start with a shot or so and see what it does to you), and dilute accordingly. Serve hot w. honey for sweetener (provides relief to throat and anti-bacterial properties).

Most stuff I know works on nasal activity, but thyme works on the lungs. you'll get better air, and you'll want to cough, if you've the air to push it out. I fixed a medium case of pneumonia this spring with it.

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« Reply #38 on: December 23, 2018, 06:57:51 pm »
I am sorry to hear this @sneakypete .  But so very glad you found a good dr.

Please update when you are able to.

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« Reply #39 on: December 23, 2018, 07:17:22 pm »
@sneakypete

We butt heads more often than not, but wishing you the very best in this, cause this is precious life and it is far more important than any of this silly futility arguing we do on a web site. I pray you recover enough to bang heads for many years to come, and come to accept something very special to my heart so it would be even longer.
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« Reply #40 on: December 23, 2018, 08:06:47 pm »
So no wonder you have been more ornery than usual with me.  LOL   

Praying for successful treatment and a speedy recovery. 

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« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2019, 12:35:45 am »
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Update.

Back home a couple of hours ago.

Good news is I do not have lung cancer. Bad news is I do have other problems,and will list them below.

#1  Had water in my lungs again,and had it drained again. Got a quart and a half this time. The doc is sending it off to be analyzed,but what was drained before had no cancer cells,so there is no reason to believe this might.

#2  I need to find out WHY my lungs keep filling with fluid,and where the fluid is coming from,starting from the fluid in my stomach. Which means I need to see a Gastroenterologist to have my stomach drained,the fluid analyzed,and what is causing it. I will get an appointment with one tomorrow.

#3: Abdomen and legs are still swollen from fluid. Have an appointment with my pulmo surgeon on Tuesday,and my heart surgeon  next Wednesday

#4  I need to find a lymph gland specialist because the lymph glands in my groin are swollen,and since I am an Agent Orange Veteran and lymph glands are a favorite place for cancer to hide and grow I need to get this diagnosed  pretty quickly. I will see about getting an appointment with a local clinic that specializes in this tomorrow.

#4 Until I take the three steps above this problem is only likely to get worse or cause other things to go bad. I can't accept half-measures and "probably good enough" answers. I need to take them on one by one to treat them and eliminate them as problems.

IF I find out there are problems and what they are as well as what to do about them,I will post the answers as I discover them,as well as any treatments I get and how effective it is.

There is a very good possibility those of you reading this have already read and heard more about this than you want to know,so I won't be doing updates on this subject unless there is a demand to hear them.
 
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« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2019, 12:46:43 am »
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The prime demand is that Whatever any Doc tells you, or orders for you, the minute you get home you get online and Check It Out.

Understand that most of these people sell pills and procedures over and above actual patient care.

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« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2019, 01:33:02 am »
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Update.

Back home a couple of hours ago.

Good news is I do not have lung cancer. Bad news is I do have other problems,and will list them below.

#1  Had water in my lungs again,and had it drained again. Got a quart and a half this time. The doc is sending it off to be analyzed,but what was drained before had no cancer cells,so there is no reason to believe this might.

#2  I need to find out WHY my lungs keep filling with fluid,and where the fluid is coming from,starting from the fluid in my stomach. Which means I need to see a Gastroenterologist to have my stomach drained,the fluid analyzed,and what is causing it. I will get an appointment with one tomorrow.

#3: Abdomen and legs are still swollen from fluid. Have an appointment with my pulmo surgeon on Tuesday,and my heart surgeon  next Wednesday

#4  I need to find a lymph gland specialist because the lymph glands in my groin are swollen,and since I am an Agent Orange Veteran and lymph glands are a favorite place for cancer to hide and grow I need to get this diagnosed  pretty quickly. I will see about getting an appointment with a local clinic that specializes in this tomorrow.

#4 Until I take the three steps above this problem is only likely to get worse or cause other things to go bad. I can't accept half-measures and "probably good enough" answers. I need to take them on one by one to treat them and eliminate them as problems.

IF I find out there are problems and what they are as well as what to do about them,I will post the answers as I discover them,as well as any treatments I get and how effective it is.

There is a very good possibility those of you reading this have already read and heard more about this than you want to know,so I won't be doing updates on this subject unless there is a demand to hear them.
Just getting caught up, here. Glad you got a good doc, hope you find out what's causing the fluid accumulations and that something can be done about that aside from installing a spigot to drain it...

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« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2019, 01:49:29 am »
@sneakypete

Good to see you back here, sir.  Still keeping up those prayers  for you.  Praying the root cause of your breathing trouble can be found and successfully treated and your lymph nodes test negative.   Sounds like your new doctor is on the ball.

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« Reply #45 on: January 03, 2019, 03:56:35 am »
Please do keep us updated.

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« Reply #46 on: January 03, 2019, 05:03:06 am »
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Update.

Back home a couple of hours ago.

Good news is I do not have lung cancer. Bad news is I do have other problems,and will list them below.

#1  Had water in my lungs again,and had it drained again. Got a quart and a half this time. The doc is sending it off to be analyzed,but what was drained before had no cancer cells,so there is no reason to believe this might.

#2  I need to find out WHY my lungs keep filling with fluid,and where the fluid is coming from,starting from the fluid in my stomach. Which means I need to see a Gastroenterologist to have my stomach drained,the fluid analyzed,and what is causing it. I will get an appointment with one tomorrow.

#3: Abdomen and legs are still swollen from fluid. Have an appointment with my pulmo surgeon on Tuesday,and my heart surgeon  next Wednesday

#4  I need to find a lymph gland specialist because the lymph glands in my groin are swollen,and since I am an Agent Orange Veteran and lymph glands are a favorite place for cancer to hide and grow I need to get this diagnosed  pretty quickly. I will see about getting an appointment with a local clinic that specializes in this tomorrow.

#4 Until I take the three steps above this problem is only likely to get worse or cause other things to go bad. I can't accept half-measures and "probably good enough" answers. I need to take them on one by one to treat them and eliminate them as problems.

IF I find out there are problems and what they are as well as what to do about them,I will post the answers as I discover them,as well as any treatments I get and how effective it is.

There is a very good possibility those of you reading this have already read and heard more about this than you want to know,so I won't be doing updates on this subject unless there is a demand to hear them.

Thanks for the update, Pete.  It is good that you are in the process of getting the symptoms (of something!) analyzed.  Big crowd of folks here that care about you and are keeping you in our thoughts and prayers for a positive outcome for you.  Please keep us updated as you can.

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« Reply #47 on: January 03, 2019, 06:28:40 am »
@sneakypete

The prime demand is that Whatever any Doc tells you, or orders for you, the minute you get home you get online and Check It Out.

Understand that most of these people sell pills and procedures over and above actual patient care.

Best Pete.

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« Reply #48 on: January 03, 2019, 07:22:13 am »
@sneakypete I’m glad your doctor and your friend seem to be able to figure out what is wrong I hope they figure out what is wrong and fix it fast.

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« Reply #49 on: January 03, 2019, 08:20:56 am »

#2  I need to find out WHY my lungs keep filling with fluid,and where the fluid is coming from,starting from the fluid in my stomach. Which means I need to see a Gastroenterologist to have my stomach drained,the fluid analyzed,and what is causing it. I will get an appointment with one tomorrow.

#3: Abdomen and legs are still swollen from fluid. Have an appointment with my pulmo surgeon on Tuesday,and my heart surgeon  next Wednesday


@sneakypete

I know this sounds overly simple, but don't forget to get horizontal as often as you can...

I don't have troubles at your level, but I do have drainage issues... Often pain will drive me to sit in a chair for long periods, to include sleeping in the chair... Over a fairly short amount of time (some days), being continually upright, my legs will begin to become painfully swollen and my lungs will begin to gather fluid... It greatly exacerbates my existing problems.

The solution for me is to literally get horizontal for some long period of time... If I wind up sleeping in the chair all night,  I will make it a point to go lay down for an hour or more, say half an hour on each side...

It can be incredibly uncomfortable at first - the advantage for my lungs in being able to eject fluids can be rather uncomfortable for breathing, with a lot of coughing and hacking and expectoration, but I will persist, and eventually things begin to clear... Likewise, lower legs and feet get uncomfortable and tingly, as fluids start to move,  but I persist and eventually things get moving and comfort returns.

Mine is driven by pain, but I can imagine your breathing problems often drive you to remain vertical too, perhaps exacerbating things... Don't forego simple solutions.

Best wishes, Pete. Get better!