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Wall Street closes out worst week in a decade
« on: December 21, 2018, 10:30:45 pm »
Wall Street closes out worst week in a decade
by Joe Williams
 | December 21, 2018 05:08 PM



All three major U.S. equity indexes closed on Friday with losses, capping off one of the worst weeks for markets in a decade as the Federal Reserve's decision to raise interest rates and a looming government shutdown continue to spook investors.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average closed down 414 points to 22,445, marking a more than 1,100-point loss for the exchange since Monday in its worst week since the 2008 financial crisis. Similarly, the Nasdaq was down 195 points and the broader S&P 500 decreased 50 points to an 18-month low.

In the past, government shutdowns have not led to significant volatility in the markets. The S&P actually rose during the four previous funding lapses. But investors remain weary after the Federal Reserve's decision to raise interest rates for a fourth time this year and Chairman Jerome Powell warned that the economy could moderate in 2019.

Funding is poised to lapse at midnight as President Trump continues to demand money for a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border. The House on Thursday passed a spending bill that included $5.7 billion in border security funding, but the measure is not expected to pass the Senate and Trump told reporters he was prepared for "very long" government shutdown.

Trump's ongoing trade tiff with China also remains a top concern. The two countries are expected to continue negotiations in January, but the White House previously warned that it is prepared to issue tariffs on an additional $267 billion in Chinese goods if an agreement is not reached.

Over the past few months, companies have sped up imports of products from the country in anticipation that tariffs on the existing $200 billion in products would also rise from 10 percent to 25 percent.

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Re: Wall Street closes out worst week in a decade
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2018, 10:43:07 pm »
But we are fools for being concerned, according to Trump supporters.  The economy is doing so well.  MAGA!

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Re: Wall Street closes out worst week in a decade
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2018, 10:52:27 pm »
   My #MAGA hat never arrived.



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Re: Wall Street closes out worst week in a decade
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2018, 11:44:51 pm »
Glad I've been pretty much "all cash" for more than a decade.

How does 18,500 sound for an eventual "bottom number" ...?

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Re: Wall Street closes out worst week in a decade
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2018, 12:17:51 am »
Over the past few months, companies have sped up imports of products from the country in anticipation that tariffs on the existing $200 billion in products would also rise from 10 percent to 25 percent.

We saw something much like this in the dotcom boom/bust.  In preparation for Y2K, many companies accelerated their IT spending in 1998/1999 so that they could have redundant test/backup equipment by "borrowing" from 2000/2001 budgets.  The timing was pretty much perfect to make the boom boomier and the bust bustier.

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Re: Wall Street closes out worst week in a decade
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2018, 12:26:13 am »
Tariffs and unintended consequences...

Who knew...

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Re: Wall Street closes out worst week in a decade
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2018, 12:29:28 am »
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Re: Wall Street closes out worst week in a decade
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2018, 12:30:25 am »
But we are fools for being concerned, according to Trump supporters.  The economy is doing so well.  MAGA!

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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2018, 01:02:19 am »
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Re: Wall Street closes out worst week in a decade
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2018, 01:30:18 am »
If anybody reading this depends upon a single week for its investments, they should not be investing.

Smart investors instead are looking at what has happened during the past ten years.

Hint: it was below 8600.
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Re: Wall Street closes out worst week in a decade
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2018, 02:32:59 am »
If anybody reading this depends upon a single week for its investments, they should not be investing.

Smart investors instead are looking at what has happened during the past ten years.

Hint: it was below 8600.

Ten years ago this week was the anniversary of Bernie Madoff. Hmmm.
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Re: Wall Street closes out worst week in a decade
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2018, 03:36:01 am »
It was WORSE under Reagan. This major downturn followed his brilliant Illegal immigrant Amnesty in 1986.




The lesson: hold. Don't panic.  The market usually bounces back up.

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Re: Wall Street closes out worst week in a decade
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2018, 04:03:03 am »
The DOW has fallen over 3000 points since the Democrats won control of the House.
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Re: Wall Street closes out worst week in a decade
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2018, 02:29:32 pm »
The DOW has fallen over 3000 points since the Democrats won control of the House.
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Re: Wall Street closes out worst week in a decade
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2018, 07:00:32 pm »
The lesson: hold. Don't panic.  The market usually bounces back up.


That's what I was told by everyone, including my financial adviser.  But it's a bit hard to be patient when your nest egg loses $16,000 in 2 weeks.  Yes, I'm sure it's a pittance for some, but it's a lot to me. 

I've heard that there are several factors contributing to this slide -- the rise in interest rates and Trump' temper tantrum for sure -- but also that business isn't as confident in our supposedly improving economy as Trump and the Washington bureaucrats appear to be.  The market will continue to fall as long as the uneasiness continues.  A global recession is on the horizon and so long as there is uneasiness and even outright panic, things will get worse before they get better.

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« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2018, 09:47:05 pm »
The DOW has fallen over 3000 points since the Democrats won control of the House.

It’s also fallen while Trump was in the White House.  So what?  Correlation is not causation.

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« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2018, 10:07:55 pm »
The DOW has fallen over 3000 points since the Democrats won control of the House.
It still amazes me to see how little notice people have given to this correlation despite how well it has held up for almost 40 years now.
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« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2018, 10:12:33 pm »
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« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2018, 10:18:10 pm »
It’s also fallen while Trump was in the White House.  So what?  Correlation is not causation.
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« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2018, 10:28:56 pm »
The House sets the federal budget.

There hasn't been a budget since Obama was elected. Never mind the constitutional requirement for one. Everything has been a "continuing resolution" since then as far as I know. Nobody has paid a political price for this in your face lawlessness. But lawless is the new normal for our government. It is how empires end.

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Re: Wall Street closes out worst week in a decade
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2018, 11:37:34 pm »
But we are fools for being concerned, according to Trump supporters.  The economy is doing so well.  MAGA!

Weren't you pleading doom, gloom and poverty when the market was at  record highs? You don't make any sense on pretty much anything.

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« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2018, 12:21:41 am »
Weren't you pleading doom, gloom and poverty when the market was at  record highs? You don't make any sense on pretty much anything.

Neither do you.  And unlike you, I don't have to use cuss words to hide a lack of brain matter.

You can listen to me on this subject or not.  I really don't care.  Just don't come whining when your finances start swirling the bowl. 

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« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2018, 12:28:09 am »
Beautiful evening, isn't it?

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« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2018, 12:33:13 am »
I always thought you were an optimist #5.

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« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2018, 01:10:35 am »
"Mod 5"?
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Why does a site as small as this one is, need 8 moderators?  ;)