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« on: November 26, 2018, 04:13:42 pm »
Neil deGrasse Tyson: Elon Musk “Will Transform Civilization As We Know It”

The eccentric SpaceX CEO gets some flak — but not from Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Victor TangermannNovember 21st 2018
 

It’s no secret that Neil deGrasse Tyson is an advocate for space exploration. So it should come to no surprise that he’s a big fan of one of spacetech’s most public figures.

In an interview with CNBC Make It, Tyson said he thought Elon Musk was going to have a bigger influence on society, in the long run, than other tech personalities like Jeff Bezos, Steve Jobs, and Mark Zuckerberg.

https://futurism.com/neil-degrasse-tyson-elon-musk-transform-civilization
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Re: Neil deGrasse Tyson: Elon Musk “Will Transform Civilization As We Know It”
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2018, 04:35:10 pm »
It's also well known Tyson is a wild-eyed climate alarmist, made worse by the fact he knows it's bullshit and just wants a one-world Communist government.  Doesn't he have some more political quotes to butcher for his own purposes?
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Re: Neil deGrasse Tyson: Elon Musk “Will Transform Civilization As We Know It”
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2018, 08:44:07 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on November 26, 2018, 04:35:10 pm
It's also well known Tyson is a wild-eyed climate alarmist, made worse by the fact he knows it's bullshit and just wants a one-world Communist government.  Doesn't he have some more political quotes to butcher for his own purposes?
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Re: Neil deGrasse Tyson: Elon Musk “Will Transform Civilization As We Know It”
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2018, 08:48:08 pm »
Neil is a narcissistic pseudo-intellectual. I don't understand why his words are taken as gospel by so many.
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Re: Neil deGrasse Tyson: Elon Musk “Will Transform Civilization As We Know It”
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2018, 08:50:35 pm »
Quote from: Dexter on November 26, 2018, 08:48:08 pm
Neil is a narcissistic pseudo-intellectual. I don't understand why his words are taken as gospel by so many.

I guess it was because he was a guy on TV?   :shrug:
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Re: Neil deGrasse Tyson: Elon Musk “Will Transform Civilization As We Know It”
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2018, 08:59:43 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on November 26, 2018, 08:50:35 pm
I guess it was because he was a guy on TV?   :shrug:

A low end "scientist" has become one of the most known voices in science because...?

Am I a racist if I start talking about the color of his skin? That white man might be more qualified to talk but he's not as charming and he doesn't make me feel less guilty.
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Re: Neil deGrasse Tyson: Elon Musk “Will Transform Civilization As We Know It”
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2018, 09:05:31 pm »
Quote from: Dexter on November 26, 2018, 08:59:43 pm
A non-scientist has become one of the most known voices in science because...?

Am I a racist if I start talking about the color of his skin? That white man might be more qualified to talk but he's not as charming and he doesn't make me feel less guilty.

I don't think you want to talk about the color of his skin any more than I.  I thought he was a real Astronomer?  I know Bill Nye is, in reality, the Mechanical Engineer Guy.  I just don't think I am interested in what Tyson has to say, outside of Astronomy.  It seems he's good at that (unlike Nye, who is good for nothing...).

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Re: Neil deGrasse Tyson: Elon Musk “Will Transform Civilization As We Know It”
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2018, 09:07:38 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on November 26, 2018, 09:05:31 pm
I don't think you want to talk about the color of his skin any more than I.  I thought he was a real Astronomer?  I know Bill Nye is, in reality, the Mechanical Engineer Guy.  I just don't think I am interested in what Tyson has to say, outside of Astronomy.  It seems he's good at that (unlike Nye, who is good for nothing...).

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I looked it up and I guess he's technically a scientist. My bad. I'm sure his world renown as a low level scientist has nothing to do with the fact that he's black. Again, that more qualified white man doesn't give me the cultural fuzzies.
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Re: Neil deGrasse Tyson: Elon Musk “Will Transform Civilization As We Know It”
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2018, 09:12:17 pm »
Quote from: Dexter on November 26, 2018, 09:07:38 pm
I looked it up and I guess he's technically a scientist. My bad. I'm sure his world renown as a low level scientist has nothing to do with the fact that he's black. Again, that more qualified white man doesn't give me the cultural fuzzies.

I never gave it much thought.  Doesn't seem germane.   :shrug:

I just figured they hang on his every word because they are the "right" words, politically speaking.
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Re: Neil deGrasse Tyson: Elon Musk “Will Transform Civilization As We Know It”
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2018, 09:13:58 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on November 26, 2018, 09:12:17 pm
Doesn't seem germane.   :shrug:

People absorb information based on what makes them feel good rather than based on the qualifications of who is speaking.
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Re: Neil deGrasse Tyson: Elon Musk “Will Transform Civilization As We Know It”
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2018, 09:14:23 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on November 26, 2018, 09:12:17 pm
I just figured they hang on his every word because they are the "right" words, politically speaking.

That and because he's an intelligent black man.
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Re: Neil deGrasse Tyson: Elon Musk “Will Transform Civilization As We Know It”
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2018, 09:14:48 pm »
This over-hype sounds familiar.

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...Before it launched, the Segway was said to revolutionize the way cities are laid out and how people get around them. Venture capitalist John Doerr predicted it would reach $1 billion in sales faster than any company in history, and that it could be bigger than the Internet. Kamen expected to be selling 10,000 units a week by the end of 2002—that's half a million a year. In the next six years, Segway sold just 30,000 units, according to Forbes....

https://www.wired.com/2015/01/well-didnt-work-segway-technological-marvel-bad-doesnt-make-sense/
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Re: Neil deGrasse Tyson: Elon Musk “Will Transform Civilization As We Know It”
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2018, 09:18:03 pm »
Quote from: rangerrebew on November 26, 2018, 04:13:42 pm
Neil deGrasse Tyson: Elon Musk “Will Transform Civilization As We Know It”

The eccentric SpaceX CEO gets some flak — but not from Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Victor TangermannNovember 21st 2018
 

It’s no secret that Neil deGrasse Tyson is an advocate for space exploration. So it should come to no surprise that he’s a big fan of one of spacetech’s most public figures.

In an interview with CNBC Make It, Tyson said he thought Elon Musk was going to have a bigger influence on society, in the long run, than other tech personalities like Jeff Bezos, Steve Jobs, and Mark Zuckerberg.

https://futurism.com/neil-degrasse-tyson-elon-musk-transform-civilization


Michio Kaku eats Tyson's lunch.
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Re: Neil deGrasse Tyson: Elon Musk “Will Transform Civilization As We Know It”
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2018, 09:22:23 pm »
Quote from: godblessRonaldReagan on November 26, 2018, 09:18:03 pm

Michio Kaku eats Tyson's lunch.

Indeed he does.
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Re: Neil deGrasse Tyson: Elon Musk “Will Transform Civilization As We Know It”
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2018, 09:24:20 pm »
Quote from: thackney on November 26, 2018, 09:14:48 pm
This over-hype sounds familiar.

https://www.wired.com/2015/01/well-didnt-work-segway-technological-marvel-bad-doesnt-make-sense/

Those things were freaking expensive is what went wrong.  The only people I know who used them had them purchased by somebody else.  You can buy a car or motorcycle for less than that.
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Re: Neil deGrasse Tyson: Elon Musk “Will Transform Civilization As We Know It”
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2018, 11:04:13 pm »
I guess what I was trying to say is...

Raise your hand if you think Neil would still be famous and influential as a white man.
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Re: Neil deGrasse Tyson: Elon Musk “Will Transform Civilization As We Know It”
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2018, 11:07:18 pm »
Quote from: Dexter on November 26, 2018, 11:04:13 pm
I guess what I was trying to say is...

Raise your hand if you think Neil would still be famous and influential as a white man.

Ask Bill Nye the Mechanical Engineer Guy.  The answer is yes he would, because both are aping the correct lines.
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« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2018, 11:10:35 pm »
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Ask Bill Nye the Mechanical Engineer Guy.  The answer is yes he would, because both are aping the correct lines.

HELL NO he wouldn't!

Bill Nye is influential because he starred in an excellent children's science show for years. Many science loving children had their passions ignited by Bill Nye, including me. He is incredibly brilliant and special in his own way.
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« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2018, 11:25:38 pm »
Quote from: Dexter on November 26, 2018, 11:10:35 pm
HELL NO he wouldn't!

Bill Nye is influential because he starred in an excellent children's science show for years. Many science loving children had their passions ignited by Bill Nye, including me. He is incredibly brilliant and special in his own way.

And Tyson starred in an excellent adult science show on the Science Channel for years.  Nye is just as much a charlatan as Tyson when they pretend to have special knowledge outside their area of expertise.  Astronomy in Tyson's case, Mechanical Engineering (Bachelor's) in Nye's.  It can be argued Nye is the bigger charlatan than Tyson because his earned educational level is well below Tyson's.

Do you not get the Science Channel?
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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2018, 11:27:07 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on November 26, 2018, 11:25:38 pm
And Tyson starred in an excellent adult science show on the Science Channel for years.  Nye is just as much a charlatan as Tyson when they pretend to have special knowledge outside their area of expertise.  Astronomy in Tyson's case, Mechanical Engineering (Bachelor's) in Nye's.  It can be argued Nye is the bigger charlatan than Tyson because his earned educational level is well below Tyson's.

Do you not get the Science Channel?

I think Nye is famous because he touched the hearts of millions of children. I think Tyson is famous because he's a black scientist. That's cool, but his amount of fame is disproportional I think.
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« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2018, 11:32:15 pm »
Yep, what a transformation

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« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2018, 11:38:20 pm »
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I think Nye is famous because he touched the hearts of millions of children. I think Tyson is famous because he's a black scientist. That's cool, but his amount of fame is disproportional I think.

Well, I don't think along those lines.  I'm just not wired to look for that.  You may be correct.  Nye is still a charlatan.  He should have stayed where he touched the hearts of millions of children.  He was good at it.
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« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2018, 11:39:31 pm »
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Yep, what a transformation



Wasn't that just before he was transformed into something other than the CEO?  :laugh:

I mean really!  A Blunt!
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« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2018, 11:40:45 pm »
Did any of you watch the podcast? That man is extremely awkward.
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« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2018, 11:43:43 pm »
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Did any of you watch the podcast? That man is extremely awkward.

No, I don't do podcasts.  Not out of snobbery, but I have bad tinnitus and can barely tolerate videos, audios not at all.  I certainly believe what you are saying, though.
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