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The originalist case against birthright citizenship
« on: October 31, 2018, 05:40:21 pm »


    The originalist case against birthright citizenship


    August 25, 2015

    Daniel Horowitz


    The American people are being told by the political class that there is nothing they can do to prevent future waves of illegal immigrants from coming here, unilaterally declaring political and legal jurisdiction, and securing citizenship for their children. We are told that there is no recourse through our elected representatives to prevent illegal immigrants from gaining a legal foothold in this country, all because of a footnote from the most radical anti-originalist justice of this century, William Brennan Jr.

    If you are scratching your head wondering how our own Constitution can be used as a suicide pact against us by foreign countries, you are not missing anything. This irrational sentiment expressed by a number of conservative and liberal pundits alike, in fact, undermines the very fabric of the social contract, popular sovereignty, and the republican form of government established by the preamble of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.



    Mandated birthright citizenship even for legal immigrants is a big stretch



     https://www.conservativereview.com/n...t-citizenship/


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Re: The originalist case against birthright citizenship
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2018, 07:12:25 pm »
Mandated birthright citizenship even for legal immigrants is a big stretch

Let’s put aside everything we believe as conservatives for a moment and take the activist ruling of Wong Kim Ark (169 U.S. 649 (1898)) as impregnable constitutional law. As such, the Fourteenth Amendment would compel Congress and the executive agencies to grant citizenship to all children of legal immigrants. Although we all agree as a matter of policy that it is a good idea to grant children born to legal permanent residents citizenship, by accepting the 1898 court decision as settled law, thereby enshrining birthright citizenship into our Constitution, we’d have to swallow the following ridiculous notions:

    We’d be adopting one-directional stare decisis of an activist court that overturned two previous court decisions: the 1873 Slaughterhouse Cases and Elk v. Wilkins (1884). In those cases, the Supreme Court made it clear that the original intent of the Fourteenth Amendment was primarily to grant equal rights to freed black slaves and that the phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” required that the petitioner for citizenship be “completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiance.” These cases excluded children born to foreign diplomats and American Indians and were quite clear that the meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment would not include all children of immigrants – most of whom would have been covered by less political jurisdiction than even those born on Indian reservations, which were partially under U.S. jurisdiction. (See more from Prof. John Eastman at NRO on defining jurisdiction.)
    We’d be overturning the most logical meaning of the text of the citizenship clause, rendering the second phrase all but superfluous.
    We’d be ignoring the intent of the drafters of this amendment, who clearly had no intention of mandating birthright citizenship for all immigrants (see more in the Eastman article). While originalists like to focus on text, in this case the text fits in exactly with the intent of the drafters, as demonstrated by the Senate floor debate.
    We’d be adopting the Revolutionary-era feudal system of English Common Law rooted in the fact that men are subjects of the state by virtue of being born on the soil. This is antithetical to the consent-based notion of citizenship expressed by our Founders. Although many of our laws are built upon the English Common Law, this certainly was not one of them, and this segregation-era court was incorporating it into American law, ironically, at a time when England was abandoning feudalism. As Thomas Jefferson wrote precisely in a discussion on immigration in Notes on the State of Virginia (Query 8, 211), our Constitution is a composition of the “freest principles of the English constitution.”
    By adopting jus soli as a constitutional mandate (not just policy) for automatic citizenship based on soil, and not jus sanguinis – right of blood – all children born to American citizens abroad would not automatically be citizens, as noted by then-Chief Justice Fuller in his dissent in Wong Kim Ark.
    Fuller further noted in his masterful dissent that by mandating automatic citizenship for all children of immigrants – no matter the circumstances – the Fourteenth Amendment would have the power “to cut off the legislative power from dealing with the subject.”  Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution grants Congress plenary power over naturalizations.  Fuller observes that “the right of a nation to expel or deport foreigners who have not been naturalized or taken any steps toward becoming citizens of a country is as absolute and unqualified as the right to prohibit and prevent their entrance into the country.”

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Re: The originalist case against birthright citizenship
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2018, 07:16:41 pm »
But more fundamentally, the notion that illegal immigrants can unilaterally declare citizenship for their kids against the will of people and the laws duly passed by the people’s representatives, and that those representatives would lack a single recourse to stop it even prospectively, violates the very essence of consent-based citizenship. The notion of consent-based citizenship serves as the bedrock of popular sovereignty, territorial sovereignty, and Republicanism – all built on the social contract. The preamble of the Declaration of Independence was built upon the principle that in order to protect natural rights, people are entitled to popular sovereignty – to form a government that derives its powers “from the consent of the governed.”

Professor Edward Erler has been the leading voice observing how birthright citizenship for illegal immigrants, and indeed the entire phenomenon of illegal immigration and their securing of rights and benefits, violates the social contract in the most foundational way.  In his book “The Founders on Citizenship and Immigration,” Erler writes the following on citizenship and the social contract:

    [T]he social contract requires reciprocal consent. Not only must the individual consent to be governed, but he must also be accepted by the community as a whole. If all persons born within the geographical limits of the United States are to be counted citizens – even those whose parents are in the United States illegally – then this would be tantamount to the conferral of citizenship without the consent of “the whole people.”

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Re: The originalist case against birthright citizenship
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2018, 07:25:12 pm »
From the page of the Congressional Globe on which the debate of the amendment is recorded.


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Re: The originalist case against birthright citizenship
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2018, 08:51:44 pm »
It's important to remember that an executive order from Mr. Trump that addresses this issue IS NOT "the end", but the beginning of "the journey" to resolving this once and for all.

The order will become "the spark" that ignites the fire needed to burn down "birthright citizenship" -- one of the greatest mistakes the country has ever made.

Of course leftist/democrat-communists will go to the courts and find a judge or two willing to declare such an order "unconstitutional". And then... it is pushed upwards.

It will be the Supreme Court that issues the final decision as to whether the 14th Amendment (as it currently stands) mandates birthright or not.

Even that isn't "the end of the line".

If the Court opines that "no, the 14th does not mandate birthright", then the administration (and the Congress) must define HOW that decision will be implemented in a meaningful way (I discussed this in a previous posting).

If the Court says "yes, it does", then the pathway forward is clear: there must be a Constitutional Amendment to either repeal and replace the 14th Amendment, or one to amend and refine it with new language to wit that only babies born to citizens of the United States inherit citizenship. It should go further and define the term "natural born citizen" as well.

But again, Mr. Trump's executive order is no more than "a beginning" here.