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Oct. 31, 2018

When Coco Layne, a Brooklyn-based producer, meets someone new these days, the first question that comes up in conversation isn’t “Where do you live?” or “What do you do?” but “What’s your sign?”

“So many millennials read their horoscopes every day and believe them,” Layne, who is involved in a number of nonreligious spiritual practices, said. “It is a good reference point to identify and place people in the world.”

Interest in spirituality has been booming in recent years while interest in religion plummets, especially among millennials. The majority of Americans now believe it is not necessary to believe in God to have good morals, a study from Pew Research Center found. The percentage of people between the ages of 18 and 29 who “never doubt existence of God” fell from 81% in 2007 to 67% in 2012.

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Re: Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2018, 09:52:39 AM »
I think allegiance to Christianity is a net loss for Republicans these days. Not saying anything bad about Christians, just that the public is starting to turn away from them.
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Re: Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2018, 10:03:57 AM »
I think allegiance to Christianity is a net loss for Republicans these days. Not saying anything bad about Christians, just that the public is starting to turn away from them.

I think you're about as wrong as you could possibly be.
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Re: Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2018, 10:05:18 AM »
I think you're about as wrong as you could possibly be.

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Re: Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2018, 10:07:35 AM »
I think you're about as wrong as you could possibly be.

How am I wrong? Monotheism is and has been on the decline all over the world. If what I said isn't true now it will be in 10 years.
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Re: Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology
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Market Watch
Kari Paul
Oct. 31, 2018

When Coco Layne, a Brooklyn-based producer, meets someone new these days, the first question that comes up in conversation isn’t “Where do you live?” or “What do you do?” but “What’s your sign?”

“So many millennials read their horoscopes every day and believe them,” Layne, who is involved in a number of nonreligious spiritual practices, said. “It is a good reference point to identify and place people in the world.”

Interest in spirituality has been booming in recent years while interest in religion plummets, especially among millennials. The majority of Americans now believe it is not necessary to believe in God to have good morals, a study from Pew Research Center found. The percentage of people between the ages of 18 and 29 who “never doubt existence of God” fell from 81% in 2007 to 67% in 2012.

More... https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-millennials-are-ditching-religion-for-witchcraft-and-astrology-2017-10-20?mod=newsviewer_click

Interest has been booming because the anti-Christians in Hollywood have been pushing supernatural-themed shows 24/7 and because the liberals' god Government has been attempting to purge Christianity from all aspects of our lives under the excuse of "separation of church and state".  Same goes for the homosexual lifestyle.  It is being pushed upon Americans and young Americans are not savvy enough to know what's going on... they just roll with it.
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Re: Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2018, 10:09:23 AM »

This is snake oil with an aura. There has always been money to be made off of the young.


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Re: Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2018, 10:14:19 AM »
How am I wrong? Secularism is and has been on the rise all over the world. If what I said isn't true now it will be in 10 years.

You said...."I think allegiance to Christianity is a net loss for Republicans these days."  I think there are still enough Americans (mainstream America) that look to Christianity in America as what saves us from becoming one of those 3rd world cesspools.   I think you may be surprised this election to see evidence of that, in fact.  As long as Republicans embrace Christianity, they will continue to win, IMO.  We are the last bastion and the last best hope in this world. 

Now ten years from now... who knows.  We may not be able to halt the trend against Christianity.  In fact, if you go by Biblical prophecy, the trend towards an all-inclusive, one world religion, will ramp up.  You already see signs of that in America's false prophets, the filthy rich televangelists.  They're basically pushing anti-scripture BS already.

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Re: Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2018, 10:35:47 AM »
How am I wrong? Monotheism is and has been on the decline all over the world. If what I said isn't true now it will be in 10 years.

Actually no.  The more basic and less "modernized" forms of Christianity, Judaiasm and even islam are on the rise.  While the first two recognize a different God than does the third, they are definitely monotheistic. 

I think the error you make is the California error.  People who live in California face a certain set of challenges and opportunities and in their closed minded narcissism they project their values and issues onto the rest of the world.  Most of us don't live quite the way they do, believe in the same things or or have the same relationship with the world.

A small group of wealthy Western "global citizens" following the desires of their hearts and rejecting thousands of years of inspired knowledge and wisdom does not a global trend make, though I'm sure they do think they are that influential. 
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Re: Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2018, 10:41:03 AM »
Actually no.  The more basic and less "modernized" forms of Christianity, Judaiasm and even islam are on the rise.  While the first two recognize a different God than does the third, they are definitely monotheistic. 

I think the error you make is the California error.  People who live in California face a certain set of challenges and opportunities and in their closed minded narcissism they project their values and issues onto the rest of the world.  Most of us don't live quite the way they do, believe in the same things or or have the same relationship with the world.

A small group of wealthy Western "global citizens" following the desires of their hearts and rejecting thousands of years of inspired knowledge and wisdom does not a global trend make, though I'm sure they do think they are that influential.

I just see more and more young people turning away from it every generation, at least in the first world. Maybe it'll swing back.
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Re: Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2018, 10:47:50 AM »
I just see more and more young people turning away from it every generation, at least in the first world. Maybe it'll swing back.

Yes, youngsters do tend to turn away for a bit.  But, they also tend to come back as they grow up.
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Re: Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2018, 11:03:42 AM »
Yes, youngsters do tend to turn away for a bit.  But, they also tend to come back as they grow up.

Historically this is true.  But I don't think we can count on this going forward.  We've got two generations that, in the main, do not have roots or a foundation is religion.  Without this they have precious little to "come back" to.
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Re: Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2018, 11:09:06 AM »
Historically this is true.  But I don't think we can count on this going forward.  We've got two generations that, in the main, do not have roots or a foundation is religion.  Without this they have precious little to "come back" to.

The reasons I stated that is because I've observed it in my own life, and secondly, because there is data to back that up. 

But, you are correct - there is a large portion of the population that is "lost".
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Re: Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2018, 11:14:36 AM »
I just see more and more young people turning away from it every generation, at least in the first world. Maybe it'll swing back.

Young people are a poor indicator. Young people are perpetually in rebellion. Were you to look at me at 18-25, you would not have mistaken me for a Christian. I didn't return to my faith until the big bad world smacked me upside the head and knocked all the foolishness of the party scene outta my head.


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Re: Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2018, 11:20:11 AM »
Young people are a poor indicator. Young people are perpetually in rebellion. Were you to look at me at 18-25, you would not have mistaken me for a Christian. I didn't return to my faith until the big bad world smacked me upside the head and knocked all the foolishness of the party scene outta my head.

Same here.  I was not only not particularly religious, despite having a Christian family and upbringing... albeit not with any particular organized religion.... I was politically unaware.   Oddly enough, the spiritual awareness occurred about the same time I became politically active and aware.  Go figure. 
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Re: Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2018, 11:44:45 AM »
Do you know part of the reason Millennials get so much hate? Stuff like this:

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Astrology isn’t the only spiritual field overwhelmed by demand: Danielle Ayoka, the founder of spiritual subscription service Mystic Lipstick, said her customer base is growing exponentially. The self-described astrologer sells a “mystic box” subscription, which includes crystals, “Reiki-infused bath salts,” and incense customized to the unique energy of the current moon cycle for $14.99 a month. She says she’s seen 75% increase in her audience in the past year.

When I started my journey in 2010, I was the weirdo,” she said. “Now it is becoming more and more normalized, and I believe it is because more people are looking to heal. Millennials are much more open-minded.

Have you ever heard of the 70's? Or the 90's? This is the third time recycled for this crap, yet Millennials think it is all so funky superfly new and cool while they lionize themselves over their supposed open mindedness. It's bad enough to sell the BS, worse to believe it.

But I will say I don't see this in the Midwest. The 80's seem to rule more here and the hippy-witchy stuff is out, thank goodness.

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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2018, 11:55:19 AM »
Same here.  I was not only not particularly religious, despite having a Christian family and upbringing... albeit not with any particular organized religion.... I was politically unaware.   Oddly enough, the spiritual awareness occurred about the same time I became politically active and aware.  Go figure.

I admit it is subjective, but I don't know a single Christian who didn't have a misspent yoot.
Several of my friends did hard time, many of them have seen the inside of County (including me), and *none* could claim to be ignorant of the back seat of a squad car.

To a degree, that is because kind finds kind, but the general premise that no one needs salvation in their own mind until they have created a severe train wreck in their own lives, cannot be denied...

And it is a whole lot more messy than the world would prefer to suppose. Most of them ol boys sitting in the pews have battle scars from their time in the world.

But there is an aspect to the OP that is pretty true.Most Christians don't get that they are in a war - A real and tangible war, right here on this physical plane. "New Age' is old as the hills, And Satanism in myriad form stalks Christians directly.

It is not uncommon to find curses and talismans hidden in churches - Effective counter operations that nearly the entirety of Christendom have become oblivious to. They have largely been taught to ignore the metaphysical, and that is a dire mistake.

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Re: Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2018, 11:57:40 AM »
Uhhhh,witchcraft IS a religion,but astrology is a science. One is based on beliefs,and the other on facts that can be observed and proven.
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When Coco Layne, a Brooklyn-based producer, meets someone new these days, the first question that comes up in conversation isn’t “Where do you live?” or “What do you do?” but “What’s your sign?”


I always answer that with "Yield Right of Way".
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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2018, 12:01:55 PM »
I think allegiance to Christianity is a net loss for Republicans these days. Not saying anything bad about Christians, just that the public is starting to turn away from them.

@Dexter

I don't think it is Christianity specifically,but a general backing away from all religions.

Except for Islam,that is. Islam is gaining because they demand allegiance wherever they dominate,and the punishments for failure to follow go from enslavement to death.
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Re: Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2018, 12:16:51 PM »
How am I wrong? Monotheism is and has been on the decline all over the world. If what I said isn't true now it will be in 10 years.

The gatekeepers of popular culture are certainly hoping this happens.

Whats actually going on is a sharpening of differences between the secular and the Christian community, and the ones with the microphone are making the loudest noise.

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Re: Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2018, 12:19:13 PM »
[...]but astrology is a science.

LOL! No.

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Re: Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2018, 12:23:12 PM »
I admit it is subjective, but I don't know a single Christian who didn't have a misspent yoot.
Several of my friends did hard time, many of them have seen the inside of County (including me), and *none* could claim to be ignorant of the back seat of a squad car.

To a degree, that is because kind finds kind, but the general premise that no one needs salvation in their own mind until they have created a severe train wreck in their own lives, cannot be denied...

And it is a whole lot more messy than the world would prefer to suppose. Most of them ol boys sitting in the pews have battle scars from their time in the world.

But there is an aspect to the OP that is pretty true.Most Christians don't get that they are in a war - A real and tangible war, right here on this physical plane. "New Age' is old as the hills, And Satanism in myriad form stalks Christians directly.

It is not uncommon to find curses and talismans hidden in churches - Effective counter operations that nearly the entirety of Christendom have become oblivious to. They have largely been taught to ignore the metaphysical, and that is a dire mistake.

I agree.  Most folks have no idea what we are really up against.  Even those that call themselves Christian aren't believers in an actual Hell or Satan.  As such, they make themselves extremely vulnerable to the realities of this life.

My neighbor is a case study in that.  If not for the fact that I know she's a Conservative Christian... I'd swear she was a classic clueless liberal.   She would never 'make it' on her own in this world (ie without her husband, who has already cheated on her once in the past).  By damned, if it was me, I'd have made shock sure that I knew about all of the finances, how to pay the bills (she doesn't know how), and how to be independent of that putz..... just in case.  Instead, she remains totally dependent. 

My youth was mostly misspent while married....and mostly consisted of smoking pot, doing shots at the local pub and frequenting concerts and gay clubs (hey, it was THE thing to do, THE place to be back then...lolol).  Other than that, it might be considered boring by some here.   :shrug:
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Re: Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2018, 12:34:14 PM »
Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology

Because they are much less likely to be molested by a Ouija Board than if they took a trip to their local Catholic church.

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Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology

Because they are much less likely to be molested by a Ouija Board than if they took a trip to their local Catholic church.

That is not true.


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