Author Topic: Caravan migrants break Guatemala border fence, rush Mexico (Read 7915 times)

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #50 on:** October 21, 2018, 05:23:04 pm »

Quote from: jpsb on October 21, 2018, 04:56:12 pm

Trump declares a State of Emergency. Let's see them sue that.

Assuming he does that, an assumption not in evidence. A rat Judge will declare the SoE illegal and allow the EPA to sue itself anyway.

XenaLee · « **Reply #51 on:** October 21, 2018, 05:31:57 pm »

Quote from: INVAR on October 21, 2018, 05:20:43 pm

We are screwed no matter how he handles this now. A Welfare State with open borders as BOTH parties have engineered and enabled AND WANT, ensures that we go Coward-Piven and if we attempt to stop it now after decades of hordes massing into us from the South - riotous bloodshed and violence to prohibit any efforts to seal the border.

Be that as it may, Trump needs to militarize the border, close the border and tell the world that this is a state of emergency and America is CLOSED for immigration for now.

We either defend our borders in this manner, or we tell the world that as long as we are concerned - America has no borders and free handouts to anyone who wants to come on in and have their lives paid for by the existing population.

If Trump does that.... would you then support him? I sure as hell will/would. Does he have the courage to do that.... ie what is required... to keep our nation a sovereign nation? We shall see.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #52 on:** October 21, 2018, 05:45:46 pm »

Quote from: XenaLee on October 21, 2018, 05:31:57 pm

If Trump does that.... would you then support him? I sure as hell will/would. Does he have the courage to do that.... ie what is required... to keep our nation a sovereign nation? We shall see.

I don't think he will do it, instead look for some half-assed measure. This would be a case of me not being on the train. Probably you too.

XenaLee · « **Reply #53 on:** October 21, 2018, 05:49:07 pm »

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on October 21, 2018, 05:45:46 pm

I don't think he will do it, instead look for some half-assed measure. This would be a case of me not being on the train. Probably you too.

If he doesn't do something to keep the invading hoards out of America.... he knows full well that he will lose in 2020 and the GOP will lose bigly in a couple of weeks. I don't see that he has any choice....

IF he cares about losing. And I think he does.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #54 on:** October 21, 2018, 05:57:56 pm »

Quote from: XenaLee on October 21, 2018, 05:49:07 pm

If he doesn't do something to keep the invading hoards out of America.... he knows full well that he will lose in 2020 and the GOP will lose bigly in a couple of weeks. I don't see that he has any choice....

IF he cares about losing. And I think he does.

Not if he is like Theodin having a Wormtongue press whispering in his ear. ("The Two Towers" was on one of the movie channels last night)

mountaineer · « **Reply #55 on:** October 21, 2018, 06:03:29 pm »

Quote from: XenaLee on October 21, 2018, 05:49:07 pm

If he doesn't do something to keep the invading hoards out of America.... he knows full well that he will lose in 2020 and the GOP will lose bigly in a couple of weeks. I don't see that he has any choice....

IF he cares about losing. And I think he does.

It's a tough choice for any president. Some even might see it as a no-win situation. If he masses troops at the border, then what? Start shooting at the poor widdle innocent "women and children" (yeah, I know, they were just added as props)? Oh, the humanity!

Or let them in, show such great compassion - and further destroy this country?

Personally, I see them as an invading army and they should be dealt with as such, but too many Americans let their tender hearts overrule common sense.

XenaLee · « **Reply #56 on:** October 21, 2018, 06:09:07 pm »

Quote from: mountaineer on October 21, 2018, 06:03:29 pm

It's a tough choice for any president. Some even might see it as a no-win situation. If he masses troops at the border, then what? Start shooting at the poor widdle innocent "women and children" (yeah, I know, they were just added as props)? Oh, the humanity!

Or let them in, show such great compassion - and further destroy this country?

Personally, I see them as an invading army and they should be dealt with as such, but too many Americans let their tender hearts overrule common sense.

Yeah, but I suspect most of those Americans are lefties... and aren't Trump supporters anyway. Let's face it. Illegal immigration was the main issue Trump was elected for. If he doesn't follow through on at least this one/main issue.... he is toast.

INVAR · « **Reply #57 on:** October 21, 2018, 06:40:30 pm »

Quote from: XenaLee on October 21, 2018, 05:31:57 pm

If Trump does that.... would you then support him?

When Trump acts to uphold right and proper things, I support those things he does.

I do not support the man and never will - I will only support the actions he does that I agree with.

Quote from: XenaLee on October 21, 2018, 05:31:57 pm

Does he have the courage to do that.... ie what is required... to keep our nation a sovereign nation? We shall see.

Let's just say that I am not investing or hedging any bets that he will.

BOTH parties see a migrant horde of third world squatters as future voters and taxpayers to keep their ponzi schemes and control over the people afloat. They have no intention whatsoever to secure the borders.

If Trump actually believes that we must, then he will need to act beyond mere words and do as the CINC should do regardless of the outrage of both parties.

mountaineer · « **Reply #58 on:** October 21, 2018, 06:43:52 pm »

Quote

Alison Danisa wept as she knelt in the garbage already piling up on the bridge, clutching her naked 11-month-old infant to her breast.

â€œWe have suffered so much. She has a fever and we brought nothing,â€ she said, showing the babyâ€™s bare bottom to indicate they had no diapers.

Really? What kind of parent does this? This is pure child abuse. Why didn't Soros/the Soros minion fill her backpack with Pampers when he was handing them out?

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #59 on:** October 21, 2018, 06:47:29 pm »

Quote from: mountaineer on October 21, 2018, 06:43:52 pm

Really? What kind of parent does this? This is pure child abuse. Why didn't Soros/the Soros minion fill her backpack with Pampers when he was handing them out?

For the same reason some broad took her kids with her to protest Senators who voted to confirm Kavanaugh. They're props, like the kind you see on a stage. To the actors, they aren't real. I feel sorry for children thrust into the role of "prop."

XenaLee · « **Reply #60 on:** October 21, 2018, 06:51:40 pm »

Quote from: mountaineer on October 21, 2018, 06:43:52 pm

Really? What kind of parent does this? This is pure child abuse. Why didn't Soros/the Soros minion fill her backpack with Pampers when he was handing them out?

Saw that Mexico has asked for help from the UN. (lololol)

Gee... I think we should prompt the UN to round up all of those nice folks and ship them off to the nearest socialist utopia. Free transport and settlement services. Maybe Trump should make that suggestion.

libertybele · « **Reply #61 on:** October 21, 2018, 06:52:54 pm »

I'm hoping that this opens everybody's eyes as to what is truly going on. They are here. Who really thinks that the U.N. now being involved is going to turn these people away? They will grant just about every darn one of them asylum. How many do you think will be in the next caravan mob headed for the U.S.?

mountaineer · « **Reply #62 on:** October 21, 2018, 07:02:11 pm »

Quote from: XenaLee on October 21, 2018, 06:51:40 pm

Saw that Mexico has asked for help from the UN. (lololol)

Gee... I think we should prompt the UN to round up all of those nice folks and ship them off to the nearest socialist utopia. Free transport and settlement services. Maybe Trump should make that suggestion.

Yeah, I understand Cuba has free medical care.

XenaLee · « **Reply #63 on:** October 21, 2018, 07:05:02 pm »

Quote from: mountaineer on October 21, 2018, 07:02:11 pm

Yeah, I understand Cuba has free medical care.

It'll be for their own good, of course. Cause... you know... we wouldn't want to inflict any of that eeeevil capitalism upon them. That would be cruel and inhumane.

Fishrrman · « **Reply #64 on:** October 21, 2018, 07:07:25 pm »

What would happen if there was A WALL along the border?

XenaLee · « **Reply #65 on:** October 21, 2018, 07:16:15 pm »

Quote from: Fishrrman on October 21, 2018, 07:07:25 pm

What would happen if there was A WALL along the border?

Mexico would be providing ladders and rope to the migrants.

mountaineer · « **Reply #66 on:** October 21, 2018, 07:22:39 pm »

Feisty â˜€ï¸Floridian @Feisty_FL 2h2 hours ago

They look well dressed, fat & happy. I lived in a 3rd world country, I know what hungry looks like. Iâ€™ve seen homeless Veterans look worse. Letâ€™s help our Veterans, our homeless & our poor. Americaâ€™s middle class is not the welfare provider for the world. #JobsNotMobs

XenaLee · « **Reply #67 on:** October 21, 2018, 07:26:07 pm »

Quote from: mountaineer on October 21, 2018, 07:22:39 pm

Feisty â˜€ï¸Floridian @Feisty_FL 2h2 hours ago

They look well dressed, fat & happy. I lived in a 3rd world country, I know what hungry looks like. Iâ€™ve seen homeless Veterans look worse. Letâ€™s help our Veterans, our homeless & our poor. Americaâ€™s middle class is not the welfare provider for the world. #JobsNotMobs

Yeah... come to think of it, none of the people I've seen in those pictures look malnourished or like they've missed many meals. Then again, if you're getting paid to leave your home and march on America.... what does food have to do with it.

INVAR · « **Reply #68 on:** October 21, 2018, 07:29:19 pm »

Quote from: mountaineer on October 21, 2018, 07:22:39 pm

Feisty â˜€ï¸Floridian @Feisty_FL 2h2 hours ago

They look well dressed, fat & happy. I lived in a 3rd world country, I know what hungry looks like. Iâ€™ve seen homeless Veterans look worse. Letâ€™s help our Veterans, our homeless & our poor. Americaâ€™s middle class is not the welfare provider for the world. #JobsNotMobs

Well I for one am calling that mob of "migrants' what they are: an invasion army - with a sprinkling of children and women for photo-op propaganda purposes.

Call them what they are, not what the media and our political caste rulers tell us they are.

And I will add, if our government will not protect us from this invasion - then it is wholly illegitimate and we must protect our borders ourselves.

But then, this government will gun you down so it can keep the borders open and the invaders fed and provided for on your children's tax dime.

skeeter · « **Reply #69 on:** October 21, 2018, 07:34:06 pm »

Quote from: mountaineer on October 21, 2018, 07:22:39 pm

Feisty â˜€ï¸Floridian @Feisty_FL 2h2 hours ago

They look well dressed, fat & happy. I lived in a 3rd world country, I know what hungry looks like. Iâ€™ve seen homeless Veterans look worse. Letâ€™s help our Veterans, our homeless & our poor. Americaâ€™s middle class is not the welfare provider for the world. #JobsNotMobs

If I were El Presidente I'd deal with this column of invaders as would any military force would - approach from the rear and cull about 500 migrants away at a time and drive each lot back south until the entire mob has been dealt with. I don't know why the Mexican government would allow themselves to be made to look impotent as they are.

XenaLee · « **Reply #70 on:** October 21, 2018, 07:36:29 pm »

Quote from: skeeter on October 21, 2018, 07:34:06 pm

If I were El Presidente I'd deal with this column of invaders as would any military force would - approach from the rear and cull about 500 migrants away at a time and drive each lot back south until the entire mob has been dealt with. I don't know why the Mexican government would allow themselves to be made to look impotent as they are.

Because.... they're..... in on it and complicit.

INVAR · « **Reply #71 on:** October 21, 2018, 08:37:29 pm »

Quote from: skeeter on October 21, 2018, 07:34:06 pm

If I were El Presidente I'd deal with this column of invaders as would any military force would - approach from the rear and cull about 500 migrants away at a time and drive each lot back south until the entire mob has been dealt with. I don't know why the Mexican government would allow themselves to be made to look impotent as they are.

Because they too are involved in importing an army to invade the USA, which they think they will reconquinista.

Think Red Dawn without the Russians and with Jihadists and Soros Marxists and you have the same idea taking place.

Fishrrman · « **Reply #72 on:** October 21, 2018, 08:40:02 pm »

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/10/invasion-caravan-swells-to-over-7200-mexico-police-stand-down-as-illegal-migrants-march-to-us/

UPDATE: NOW OVER TWO MILES LONG! Caravan Swells to Well Over 7,200; Mexico Police Stand Down as Illegal Migrants March to US

by Kristinn Taylor
October 21, 2018

The illegal migrant caravan is sweeping through Chiapas in southern Mexico on Sunday, their numbers having jumped to over 7,000 overnight from just a few thousand as it became apparent the caravan would not be stopped by Mexico. After blocking the migrants on a bridge Friday, Mexican officials allowed the migrants to swim and raft across the Suchiate River from Guatemala into Mexico Saturday and then regroup in a riverside park. Mexico also allowed over 600 women and children to legally enter for processing on Saturday

More at URL above, including video & pics...

skeeter · « **Reply #73 on:** October 21, 2018, 08:42:38 pm »

Quote from: INVAR on October 21, 2018, 08:37:29 pm

Because they too are involved in importing an army to invade the USA, which they think they will reconquinista.

Think Red Dawn without the Russians and with Jihadists and Soros Marxists and you have the same idea taking place.

This whole thing has me extremely p*ssed off.

https://www.breitbart.com/news/migrant-caravan-swells-to-5000-resumes-advance-toward-us/

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #74 on:** October 21, 2018, 08:57:48 pm »

Quote from: skeeter on October 21, 2018, 08:42:38 pm

This whole thing has me extremely p*ssed off.

https://www.breitbart.com/news/migrant-caravan-swells-to-5000-resumes-advance-toward-us/

I've heard this before: If Trump doesn't find a way to get a handle on this bunch, he's finished in 2020, which, in practical terms, means he's finished right now.

Your move, Mr. President.