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Which is irrefutable proof of the political motivation of this wench.

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Her lawyers aren't working for her. They are being paid by Brian Fallon who is coordinating this whole thing.
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What I think "happened" to her is somebody waved some filthy lucre in front of her to get her to make up this whole fairy tale.

Yeah. All this 'she's very credible' stuff is getting tiresome. She scrubbed her social media and someone took down her RateMyProfessor page before this all came out. She complained to no one for 30 years but hired several high profile highly partisan lawyers to represent her. During her testimony she feigned the voice of a 16 year old girl & was caught in a couple of obvious lies. And all of this to tell a story where she cannot remember anything but knows for absolutely certain tha a particular 17 year old boy ground up against her 36 years ago, who happens to be a SCOTUS nominee the rats have vowed to destroy. No, I didn't find her very credible.
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Senator Feinstein’s husband Richard Blum has served the University of Palo Alto as a member of the University of California Board of Regents since 2002. Kinda ironic that Christine Blasey Ford is a psychology professor at Palo Alto. 🤔

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No investigation will be complete until it either completely exonerates Kavanaugh (very unlikely) or shows that he did it (also unlikely).  Any shades of gray in the case will be "See, we told you all along that he could have done it" and he'll be hung out to dry.

However, if it turns out that he DID do it, there isn't a tree high enough......
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No investigation will be complete until it either completely exonerates Kavanaugh (very unlikely) or shows that he did it (also unlikely).  Any shades of gray in the case will be "See, we told you all along that he could have done it" and he'll be hung out to dry.

However, if it turns out that he DID do it, there isn't a tree high enough......

The GOP by capitulating to this delay has probably sealed Kav's fate.  Akin to Lucy pulling the ball on Charlie Brown.  They got their bluff in now.   No win situation.

I hope there is hell to pay for this miscarriage of justice.
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However, if it turns out that he DID do it, there isn't a tree high enough......

Really? Pray to God we all - male and female - as teenagers aren't held to your standards.

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No investigation will be complete until it either completely exonerates Kavanaugh (very unlikely) or shows that he did it (also unlikely).  Any shades of gray in the case will be "See, we told you all along that he could have done it" and he'll be hung out to dry.

However, if it turns out that he DID do it, there isn't a tree high enough......

And of course anything short of total exoneration will be trumpeted by dems and media as proof of guilt.
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And of course anything short of total exoneration will be trumpeted by dems and media as proof of guilt.

Exactly.  Expanding the investigation will only bring up x amount of bogus concerns by the stupid dims. Which will then open another x amount of bogus concerns (repeat)  Flake helped open a Pandora's box of delay tactics.  This will not stop unitl they have destroyed Kavanaugh.

I don't think I have ever seen a more effective duping of a group of politicans in my lifetime.
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Really? Pray to God we all - male and female - as teenagers aren't held to your standards.

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Senator Feinstein’s husband Richard Blum has served the University of Palo Alto as a member of the University of California Board of Regents since 2002. Kinda ironic that Christine Blasey Ford is a psychology professor at Palo Alto. 🤔

http://regents.universityofcalifornia.edu/about/members-and-advisors/index.html

Richard C. Blum
Appointed March 12, 2002 to a term expiring March 1, 2014 (by Davis); re-appointed in 2014 (by Brown) to a term expiring March 1, 2026; Chairman of Blum Capital Partners, L.P. and Co-Chairman of Newbridge Capital, LLC.; B.A., University of California, Berkeley; M.B.A, University of California, Berkeley.

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Thanks for the ping @Bigun

But I have no words left.  The swamp is so dark, its roots so deep and intertwined I fear we'll never be rid of it.  In fact, I fear we'll never have any influence over it.




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Thanks for the ping @Bigun

But I have no words left.  The swamp is so dark, its roots so deep and intertwined I fear we'll never be rid of it.  In fact, I fear we'll never have any influence over it.

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Maybe not but I, for one fully intend to fight the bastards to my last breath on this earth!

BTW:  This whole resistance to Kavanaugh is a criminal conspiracy being run by Hillary Clinton's former press secretary Brian Fallon with Soros money.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,334156.msg1807372.html#msg1807372
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I’m leaning strongly toward “liar.”  I keep hearing women who’ve been raped say that every detail is burned into their minds.


CBF has acted like she had some kind of PTSD from the "incident"--e.g., symptoms resembling paranoia and possibly hyper-vigilance.  But I think she messed up badly by claiming memory loss.  Based on what I have been taught, one of the hallmarks of PTSD is memories that can't be expunged.  Any TBR shrinks able to weigh in on this?


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Her lawyers aren't working for her. They are being paid by Brian Fallon who is coordinating this whole thing.

See my post #11 for a link to the photo evidence of a recent and direct connection of Katz to Hillary.  See also snopes.com's typically lame attempts to debunk the photo evidence.  That effort by snopes makes the photo even more important.

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CBF has acted like she had some kind of PTSD from the "incident"--e.g., symptoms resembling paranoia and possibly hyper-vigilance.  But I think she messed up badly by claiming memory loss.  Based on what I have been taught, one of the hallmarks of PTSD is memories that can't be expunged.  Any TBR shrinks able to weigh in on this?

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Yes, I think so, too.

If she isn't paying for her legal defense, and clearly she isn't, what does she need a GoFundMe for?  The total is currently over $700,000.

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goatprairie wrote:
"So many lies...er..."inconsistencies" in Ford's testimony."

It's ALL been... "a lie".
From the beginning.
Anybody in this forum who continues to ponder about the "incidents" that Ford claims Kavanaugh was involved in... well, I'll spit it out -- you're a fool.

I can't see why Republicans are bothering to discuss this any more.
Further "investigations" will reveal nothing, because there is nothing (no truths or facts) to be revealed. How can one investigate a fabrication?

Fishrrman Prediction:
Ford -is not- going to be interviewed by the FBI before the "7th day" arrives. Her lawyer isn't going to permit that -- not sure if the FBI can compel an interview within that time frame. If there are legal obstacles that can be used to delay it, they will likely BE used.

So... after 7 days... the FBI is going to come back to Mr. Trump and the Senate with the report that their investigation is "inconclusive" and cannot be completed within the time frame mandated.

At this point it will again be in the Republicans' hands:
- Proceed without the FBI "report", or...
- Demand that the investigation be continued.

So... are Flake, Collins and Murkowski going to stop resisting at that point?
C'mon...

I could be wrong, but that's how I'm callin' it.

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Catfish wrote:
"The GOP by capitulating to this delay has probably sealed Kav's fate.  Akin to Lucy pulling the ball on Charlie Brown.  They got their bluff in now.   No win situation."

NO.
Several times over the past week I've posted how to win this battle.
I guess a lot of folks have me on ignore, because next-to-no one has responded when I say the two words:
Recess appointment.

Are you one of those, as well?

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Unfortunately it won't be enough.  It'll never be enough. 

Someone did something to Christine, and for that I'm sorry.  But Kavanaugh will never overcome this.  It's impossible to square their stories, and we'll never know with 100% certainty what happened and who did it.  But at this point I'm more inclined to believe his account, that he didn't do it.  As I said before, I think someone did something to her...I just think there is reasonable doubt that he did it.

Not necessarily.   People can have repressed memories "pop up" that are 100% false.... even though they are 100% ""sure"" the memory is accurate.   Psychiatrists and people in that industry know that only too well.  Which is another reason why this whole thing is based on a blatant farce.
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Heard on Fox form a former fibbie that they probably interview Ford and Kavanaugh again given their recent testimony under oath.

I hope that Collins, Murkowski and Flake have pledged to vote for Kavanaugh if the FBI did another (repetitive and unnecessary) investigation.

Fox keeps running the clip of Biden with his sarcastic sneering remarks about the inappropriateness of Republicans asking for am FBI investigation all those years ago. I hope it's used in ads.
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Are you one of those, as well?

No not at all.  Just don't think Trump is willing to trigger that kind of backlash, which unfortunately would also come within the more moderate factions within the GOP and......along with the unhinged left.

Don't get me wrong, I wish he would.  Just see is it a a very very remote possibility.
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catfish wrote:
"Just don't think Trump is willing to trigger that kind of backlash"

"Backlash" ??
From whom ??

That's a serious question.

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I don't think I have ever seen a more effective duping of a group of politicans in my lifetime.

Unfortunately, like sign on the ground tells you what's about, this sign is much the same - I submit it happens all the time. This is not about truth. It is game-play. Gaming the system for the 'win'... Which is not a win, no matter who comes out on top. SOSDD.

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Not necessarily.   People can have repressed memories "pop up" that are 100% false.... even though they are 100% ""sure"" the memory is accurate.   Psychiatrists and people in that industry know that only too well.  Which is another reason why this whole thing is based on a blatant farce.

Watching Ford's entire performance, I analyzed her from the perspective of a psych RN. So many red flags. First, her appearance, the hair in her face that she didn't fix. The little girl voice. The periodic confusion and lack of understanding. Didn't know the definition of exculpatory, went on about her hippocampus. The inappropriate affect when speaking - all dead giveaways of a medicated and unstable woman.

If one were telling the truth, that person would be empowered and self-righteous and relieved- not a terrified bunny. She is a damaged woman but Kavanaugh didn't cause the damage.
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Watching Ford's entire performance, I analyzed her from the perspective of a psych RN. So many red flags. First, her appearance, the hair in her face that she didn't fix. The little girl voice. The periodic confusion and lack of understanding. Didn't know the definition of exculpatory, went on about her hippocampus. The inappropriate affect when speaking - all dead giveaways of a medicated and unstable woman.

If one were telling the truth, that person would be empowered and self-righteous and relieved- not a terrified bunny. She is a damaged woman but Kavanaugh didn't cause the damage.
My wife went into watching the testimony believing Ford might be credible. I allowed for the fact that something bad might have happened to Ford at a party, but she's lacking in so much information, she's most likely got the party mixed up and Kavanaugh mixed up with some other guy.
My wife though ended up simply not believing her about anything she said. She thinks Ford is a total loony tune and is making the whole thing up.

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catfish wrote:
"Just don't think Trump is willing to trigger that kind of backlash"

"Backlash" ??
From whom ??

That's a serious question.

Almost every angle.  Of course the MSM and left doesn't matter.  But any improvement in relationship with GOP law makers will be imperiled.  And he has come along way in that regard.  Why blow it?

As much as he slammed Obama over his circumvention techniques (EO's)....   Wouldn't that be hypocritical?

And again....  I agree with you that this may be a valid scorched earth option, though remote.  But without GOP buy in, it is a huge risk, and only repeat only after the election in November.  And who knows ...  if we pick up a few senate seats, it won't matter anyway.
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My wife went into watching the testimony believing Ford might be credible. I allowed for the fact that something bad might have happened to Ford at a party, but she's lacking in so much information, she's most likely got the party mixed up and Kavanaugh mixed up with some other guy.
My wife though ended up simply not believing her about anything she said. She thinks Ford is a total loony tune and is making the whole thing up.

I had a college friend who died a few years ago who used to tell a story (at our annual homecoming parties) of his relationship with a certain girl we and our group all knew back then.  Problem was  100% of the story was a delusional fabricated account that all of us knew wasn't truel.  I have no idea why he did it, but would get very defensive anytime someone would dispute his story.

I am sure there is a psychological condition that causes things like this, but I'm wagering Ford might suffer from the same thing.
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