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[Hoodat]

That's an interesting observation.  She didn't pay them, but they sent and accepted correspondences on her behalf, doesn't that make them her attorneys, whether she paid them or not?

No.  Not unless it was set up that way from the beginning.  If they asked her to hire them while saying that some benefactor was paying the bills, then perhaps.  But I seriously doubt that is how it went down.  They are clearly working for an outside interest and are dragging her along for the ride.

[Sanguine]

No.  Not unless it was set up that way from the beginning.  If they asked her to hire them while saying that some benefactor was paying the bills, then perhaps.  But I seriously doubt that is how it went down.  They are clearly working for an outside interest and are dragging her along for the ride.

That's the way I understand it: whoever is paying them is the client. 

[TomSea]

Orrin Hatch called them "Her Lawyers", he might be wrong. Also on that committee are Mike Lee, Ted Cruz. Ben Sasse, Lindsay Graham, former judge,  all keen legal minds, now, these last 3 did not directly comment on this that I know of. But it does seem that Orrin Hatch did.  This is the Judiciary Committee after all.

A key phrase, might be "Legal Representation", did they give her legal representation and does that constitute being her lawyers?

I don't disbelieve what anyone says but I will tend to lean on what Senator Hatch's words were and I would tend to think he is not misinformed on the issue.

[TomSea]

Gregg Jarrett: In Kavanaugh battle, are Ford's lawyers representing her, or the Democrats?

Gregg Jarrett

Professor Christine Blasey Ford – who has accused Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her some 36 years ago – may well have been betrayed and victimized by her own attorneys, who are Democratic activists with a record of fierce opposition to President Trump.

As a result, the attorneys ostensibly representing Ford may have breached their client’s trust and violated their ethical responsibility to act in her best interests. They may instead be motivated primarily by a desire to block President Trump’s appointment of a conservative justice to the nation’s highest court. An investigation of their conduct is warranted to determine if this is the case.

Kavanaugh has strongly denied Ford’s claim that he groped her, tried unsuccessfully to take off her clothes, and covered her mouth to stop her from screaming when the two were high school students. “I’ve never sexually assaulted anyone,” he told the Senate Judiciary Committee at his confirmation hearing Thursday.

Read more at: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/09/28/gregg-jarrett-in-kavanaugh-battle-are-fords-lawyers-representing-her-or-democrats.html

[Hoodat]

Why are you expecting ethics from lawyers?

[TomSea]

Why are you expecting ethics from lawyers?

I don't. Nor Democrats.

 

[TomSea]

Here's another thing, reading the comments to one of the articles.... I'm not sure if the "body language" matter was posted here... but I saw something on that.

That she came off with that "little girl talk" and it did seem she did and other "signs of being coached"... I'm not saying I buy all of this that some expert analyzed her body language and presentation but it's not a bad thing to consider... so then, that leaves us where we started from, that she may well be part of the plot, part of the "resistance".

Scrapped that article but I did read different ones.

I see analysis of Brett's body language too in articles, I trust if someone is interested in that, they can find it for themselves.

Quite a number of articles out there on all of this.

[DCPatriot]

    Almost 70 pages and if I'm not mistaken, never locked, Kudos to all Briefers.

???

You're new here, aren't you?   

[Cyber Liberty]

Here's another thing, reading the comments to one of the articles.... I'm not sure if the "body language" matter was posted here... but I saw something on that.

That she came off with that "little girl talk" and it did seem she did and other "signs of being coached"... I'm not saying I buy all of this that some expert analyzed her body language and presentation but it's not a bad thing to consider... so then, that leaves us where we started from, that she may well be part of the plot, part of the "resistance".

Scrapped that article but I did read different ones.

I see analysis of Brett's body language too in articles, I trust if someone is interested in that, they can find it for themselves.

Quite a number of articles out there on all of this.

The articles out there are by liberals, and they say Ford was calm and collected, while Kav was agitated and angry, indicating deception.

[goatprairie]

The articles out there are by liberals, and they say Ford was calm and collected, while Kav was agitated and angry, indicating deception.

It wouldn't have made any difference if Ford was agitated and angry and Kavanaugh appeared calm and collected. They would say Ford's anger was justified and Kavanaugh's coolness indicated he was a smug, conscienceless, frat boy who knew he could get away with it.
There's almost no way you can get people, liberals, who judge things on emotions and feelings to think objectively.  Thinking subjectively is a prime asset for being a liberal.

[Cyber Liberty]

It wouldn't have made any difference if Ford was agitated and angry and Kavanaugh appeared calm and collected. They would say Ford's anger was justified and Kavanaugh's coolness indicated he was a smug, conscienceless, frat boy who knew he could get away with it.
There's almost no way you can get people, liberals, who judge things on emotions and feelings to think objectively.  Thinking subjectively is a prime asset for being a liberal.

Very true.  Partisans went into the hearing with preconceived notions.

[berdie]

@berdie

Really?  Why?

Sorry it took me so long to answer...and this thread has moved on. But I don't want to be known as a troll or drive by poster. The phone rang the night I made the original post. And truthfully, I'm so darned mad that a person can be ruined with no evidence...I haven't wanted to think about it.

It's obvious why I think Ford is a liar. She has no proof...no witnesses that say they were even at this "party". Her little girl voice and demeanor are a give away.  If something traumatized me so deeply that it ruined my life...you better believe I would remember when, where and every detail.
I think she is emotionally fragile and more that a little bit coo-coo,

Judge K started out strong. His opening statement was powerful. But as questioning went on, he quit answering directly. Could be a lawyer thing. I don't know.

I'll probably tune out again.  I can't stand to see a person's life destroyed....for politics.

 

[HoustonSam]

It wouldn't have made any difference if Ford was agitated and angry and Kavanaugh appeared calm and collected. They would say Ford's anger was justified and Kavanaugh's coolness indicated he was a smug, conscienceless, frat boy who knew he could get away with it.
There's almost no way you can get people, liberals, who judge things on emotions and feelings to think objectively.  Thinking subjectively is a prime asset for being a liberal.

Agreed.  That republicans have not yet acknowledged that - the *fact* that democrats, liberals, progressives are not dealing honestly and will never deal honestly - indicates that republicans are at best naive.  It's long past time to stop trying to "reach across the aisle" and "find common ground."  It's long past time that republicans struck to create an advantage and then maintained that initiative.

I didn't support Trump during the nominating contest and I'm still not a Trump supporter, although I can support some of the policies his administration has pursued.  But for establishment republicans to not see that their rank and file are fed up with being played like fools is just incomprehensible.  Trump won the nomination because the republican base is angry, and he embodied that anger.

No matter the outcome of any additional investigations, the democrats will argue it against Kavanaugh.  Republicans need to acknowledge this and stop offering deals.  People like Flake, Collins, and Murkowski should be primaried *by the party* to end this nonsense.

[Hoodat]

This absolutely nails it.

[Hoodat]

Would you believe Leland Keyser was once married to Bob Beckel?

[DCPatriot]

[Cyber Liberty]

This absolutely nails it.

That house is a freaking dump.  @Frank Cannon would be ashamed to rent it out.

[TomSea]

This absolutely nails it.

Great find, thanks for sharing this. @Hoodat

[TomSea]

Just in case, no one has seen this, it sounds like Mrs. Kavanaugh requested Psalm 40 and prayer for their travails.

https://ariseletusbegoing.com/2018/09/29/mrs-kavanaughs-request-psalm-40/

One translation, NIV I believe: https://www.biblestudytools.com/psalms/40.html One can use their own Bible or translation, many are found on the internet.

1 I waited patiently for the LORD; he turned to me and heard my cry.

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On to other, it sounded like on Fox yesterday, they said there are likely 49 yes votes at this point. They did not seem to be counting the fence-sitters, including Manchin in West Virginia and even McCaskill in Missouri. Both of these two Ds are in hotly contested Senate races.

[TomSea]

GOP-hired prosecutor questions credibility of Kavanaugh accuser Christine Blasey Ford

Arizona prosecutor Rachel Mitchell, who was hired by Senate Judiciary Committee Republicans to question Judge Brett Kavanaugh and his accuser Christine Blasey Ford during the committee's hearing into allegations of sexual assault against Kavanaugh, questioned the credibility of her accusations and called the case "weak" in her assessment of Ford's allegations.

In a memo to Senate Republicans, Mitchell details nine main points she says raise questions about the credibility of Ford's account. She concludes no prosecutor would bring the case, nor is the evidence sufficient to prevail even in a civil trial.

"In the legal context, here is my bottom line: A "he said, she said" case is incredibly difficult to prove. But this case is even weaker than that," wrote Mitchell.

Read more at: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gop-hired-prosecutor-rachel-mitchell-questions-credibility-of-kavanaugh-accuser-christine-blasey-ford/

If this was posted already, just posting again in this thread. I did not know she detailed 9 points that make Dr. Ford not look credible.

[austingirl]

Why isn't the information about the second front door perjury on the front page of Drudge? Oh, I guess we only accuse a judge on the second highest court in the land of perjury.

[Idiot]

Just in case, no one has seen this, it sounds like Mrs. Kavanaugh requested Psalm 40 and prayer for their travails.

https://ariseletusbegoing.com/2018/09/29/mrs-kavanaughs-request-psalm-40/

One translation, NIV I believe: https://www.biblestudytools.com/psalms/40.html One can use their own Bible or translation, many are found on the internet.

1 I waited patiently for the LORD; he turned to me and heard my cry.

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On to other, it sounded like on Fox yesterday, they said there are likely 49 yes votes at this point. They did not seem to be counting the fence-sitters, including Manchin in West Virginia and even McCaskill in Missouri. Both of these two Ds are in hotly contested Senate races.

I got that email request yesterday from a friend.  I kind of take this whole thing personally, since Mrs. Kavanaugh and I attended the same school and her family still lives here.

[txradioguy]

If this was posted already, just posting again in this thread. I did not know she detailed 9 points that make Dr. Ford not look credible.

The two I recall off the top of my head is the fact she claims she is terrified of flying yet she flies everywhere for business and pleasure and the fact her friend she claims was there at the Country Club when the assault allegedly happened doesn't even know Kavanaugh.

In addition she says that the polygraph took a really long time and yet the person who administered the test only asked her two questions.

 

[txradioguy]

I got that email request yesterday from a friend.  I kind of take this whole thing personally, since Mrs. Kavanaugh and I attended the same school and her family still lives here.

I think if it were me personally...I'd be repeating the 23rd Psalm if I was facing what Judge Kavanaugh is.

[TomSea]

I got that email request yesterday from a friend.  I kind of take this whole thing personally, since Mrs. Kavanaugh and I attended the same school and her family still lives here.

I guess, if one were Catholic too, they could say they have a personal bond to the situation as the Kavanaughs are of that faith.  But I don't tend to make it about me. @mrpotatohead  I believe one member here, made an assertion in the past about Trump's treatment of Cruz being "unforgivable. So, let's not forget, without Trump as president, Kavanaugh would not have been nominated.