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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #100 on: September 12, 2018, 06:31:09 PM »
What are you missing?  President TRUMP, has ALWAYS SAID..implementing his polices with CONGRESS HELP & working within the constitution.  He is not a dictator, as some of you like to post.  He has kept all of his promises.  If you want things improved,  VOTE REPUBLICAN down the line in NOV. so all the DEMOCRATS & rinos, who are currently blocking his agenda, can be removed.  Don't complain about my president...give him the congress he needs.  Why is that so hard to understand?  ONE man, then congress working against him.   *****rollingeyes*****

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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #101 on: September 12, 2018, 06:33:30 PM »
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Ouch....lol

The responses to that should be interesting
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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #102 on: September 12, 2018, 06:40:49 PM »
Some "expenses' items, are subtracted from the budget. Redundant fed jobs, waste in Gov.  8 YEARS with Obama we NEVER had a budget. Harry Reid, let it all ride. Some never understand it is on CONGRESS.

NO DEFENSE CUTS! That is suicide for our country & Obama did that. Sequester. We were down to 1915 standards in the military. What entitlement reform? List it.What do you want done?  CLINTON took our PAID IN social security, matched by employer, made it part of the  general budget, bingo surplus.Then spent.  Congress left people, who said into S.S. for 40 years, an I.O.U. That has to be returned. Not on president Trump. Entitled medicare=welfare?]

It would be much easier to list programs I would NOT want cut or eliminated entirely. 

1915 standards?  Get a grip.  Romney tried scare tactics the third debate, and Obama predictably handed his ass to him.  35% of the world's military spending happens in the United States.  Fact of the matter is the DOD will have to be trimmed, either when the consequences can be managed, or in the middle of debt crisis.

You should have asked Trump how he planned to pay down the debt before you hired him.  Even a cursory glance at his proposals would have raised doubts.

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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #103 on: September 12, 2018, 06:41:46 PM »


Quote from: Free Vulcan on Today at 03:45:39 PM
This is my main knock against Trump, that he signed the last porkulus bill.

That said, where do I put the blame? Trump for sure, but as as a conservative who believes in Separate But Equal government, half that blame falls on Ryan, McConnell, and Congress.

They had total control as to the details of that spending monster of a bill, and they sent it up to Pennsylvania Ave anyway.
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President was pushed in a corner, by congress!  He wanted the money for our military! For that, he had to sign the PORK BILL.
Who says that PORK can't be removed later, with new REPUBLICANS in office ,after NOV. 2018;  Things change all the time.

When people aren't planning to K1ll my president, he has to contend with uniformed people all the time. It was on congress. President TRUMP realized his mistake...new to politics & treacherous  DEMONCRATS & rhinos.  Who can he trust?  It seems very little, with SOROS controlled, paid off congress.









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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #104 on: September 12, 2018, 06:47:28 PM »

Quote from: Free Vulcan on Today at 03:45:39 PM
This is my main knock against Trump, that he signed the last porkulus bill.

That said, where do I put the blame? Trump for sure, but as as a conservative who believes in Separate But Equal government, half that blame falls on Ryan, McConnell, and Congress.

They had total control as to the details of that spending monster of a bill, and they sent it up to Pennsylvania Ave anyway.
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President was pushed in a corner, by congress!  He wanted the money for our military! For that, he had to sign the PORK BILL.
Who says that PORK can't be removed later, with new REPUBLICANS in office ,after NOV. 2018;  Things change all the time.

When people aren't planning to K1ll my president, he has to contend with uniformed people all the time. It was on congress. President TRUMP realized his mistake...new to politics & treacherous  DEMONCRATS & rhinos.  Who can he trust?  It seems very little, with SOROS controlled, paid off congress.




If Trump vetoed the spending bills but Congress overrode his veto, I would give him credit for at least trying. But whether you like to hear it or not, he signed them. Nobody forced him. Nobody fooled him. He took his tiny little hand with pen and signed them. Now another generation gets to pay for it. As conservatives, we will hold him then responsible and accountable just like we will Ryan and McConnell etc. etc.

So, assuming he serves eight years, two terms, and another 9 to 10 trillion is added to the debt, will he be at least partially to blame at least or will he be just an innocent bystander? Or does he get to be a victim?
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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #105 on: September 12, 2018, 06:57:25 PM »

 Your post  is Exhibit A why we will never see cuts until they are forced and more painful.

The reluctance of some to hold Trump accountable at all is mind-boggling. We’re not talking about blaming him for everything that’s bad. But with leadership comes accountability.  If some of us on the right are holding him accountable on this issue, imagine with the left is going to do.


What are you talking about?  We HAVE tax cuts starting in Jan 2018.  What I find boggling is people thinking president TRUMP can act like a dictator!  Talk to congress & McCain for, one trillion expense to citizens, by McCain voting "NO' on  Obmancare repeal, just to be the azz & traitor that he always has been to Americans. I hold CONGRESS accountable. .  They block my presidents policy's. If you can't see that, then it is a lost cause talking to you.

 We are a REPUBLIC..not dictatorship.
You want better results?  Vote republican down the line, to remove democrats & rinos, who block president TRUMP. 

Then president TRUMP can re-work some of that PORK. He wanted our military taken care of NOW.

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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #106 on: September 12, 2018, 07:00:19 PM »
President was pushed in a corner, by congress!  He wanted the money for our military! For that, he had to sign the PORK BILL.
Who says that PORK can't be removed later, with new REPUBLICANS in office ,after NOV. 2018;  Things change all the time.

When people aren't planning to K1ll my president, he has to contend with uniformed people all the time. It was on congress. President TRUMP realized his mistake...new to politics & treacherous  DEMONCRATS & rhinos.  Who can he trust?  It seems very little, with SOROS controlled, paid off congress.


Complete BS.  He had already signed the defense bill in Dec 2017.  The process for putting everything together in an omnibus took a lot of time and the WH legislative team was involved in every decision.  There were no surprises when this monstrosity was signed.
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #107 on: September 12, 2018, 07:05:12 PM »
It seems that @LegalAmerican is not  reading fully anyone’s posts and is just lashing out at people who have an honest criticism of the president on this issue


The big plus that I do see here  there are plenty of posters who are holding the president and the Republicans accountable on this issue.
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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #108 on: September 12, 2018, 07:11:17 PM »
Correctamundo.

The fact is that the Republican Party is as diabolically addicted to spending our money borrowed from our kids and grandkids' futures - as the Democrats are if not moreso.

But... the fact is Trump signed it.  And has pledged to sign more Billions in deficit spending bills - without so much as a single dime reducing the size and scope of Government.

Planned Parenthood funding anyone?

The buck has to stop somewhere and Trump made it plain that it doesn't stop with him.

So off to printing up more money out of thin air goes our treasury while welfare for everything from abortions to zoos continues unabated.

And no one gives a shit as long as their wallets get fat - even when they are consigning their own posterity to ruin and starvation in the future.


Wrong. Democrats have always been the spenders. Republicans have not been in charge for 70 years. 63+ years of democrats spending us into the ground. You have it backwards. C.R.A. =Housing bubble under Clinton, then Obama forced the banks into doing it..again! Everything you posted is wrong. PP? CONGRESS wanted that. PP is not just about abortions, but I am not sure, where we stand on that, now. Every time president TRUMP wants to remove funding for PP or PBS=Big bird, the democrats go nuts calling him a "k!ller". Are you a democrat?  Not seeing any republican thinking in your post.

What you posted is all OLD left talking points. Democrats are the wealthiest in congress, not republicans. Google,* failed liberal ideas*, from all the democrats.

You think with the massive mess, democrats have created on our country for DECADES..it will be fixed in 18 months? 


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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #109 on: September 12, 2018, 07:13:01 PM »
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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #110 on: September 12, 2018, 07:20:04 PM »
Is he? He is doing a better job then Reagan turning the economy around.

There is no comparing the economy that Reagan inherited versus the one Trump did

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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #111 on: September 12, 2018, 07:21:25 PM »

Wrong. Democrats have always been the spenders. Republicans have not been in charge for 70 years. 63+ years of democrats spending us into the ground. You have it backwards. C.R.A. =Housing bubble under Clinton, then Obama forced the banks into doing it..again! Everything you posted is wrong. PP? CONGRESS wanted that. PP is not just about abortions, but I am not sure, where we stand on that, now. Every time president TRUMP wants to remove funding for PP or PBS=Big bird, the democrats go nuts calling him a "k!ller". Are you a democrat?  Not seeing any republican thinking in your post.

What you posted is all OLD left talking points. Democrats are the wealthiest in congress, not republicans. Google,* failed liberal ideas*, from all the democrats.

You think with the massive mess, democrats have created on our country for DECADES..it will be fixed in 18 months?

Democrats controlled congress for only two of Obama's eight years in office. Yet Republicans don't have any responsibility for Obama's massive spending you say...


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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #112 on: September 12, 2018, 07:24:52 PM »
There is no comparing the economy that Reagan inherited versus the one Trump did

I was a young adult in 1980. I remember it very well

What? Interest rates weren't pushing 20% when Trump took office???

Oh, that's right, they were practically zero in historical terms when he took office... Parallels? What parallels...


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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #113 on: September 12, 2018, 07:36:29 PM »
not disagreeing that was the wrong thing to do.

My comment is that Congress can always over-ride Executive's pen anyway, which I wish Trump would have caused to happen.

And that's the rub. So Trump raises tariffs, and everyone screams that it will sink the markets and ruin the economy.

Yet if Trump doesn't sign a bill to fund the govt, what do people think will happen? Yes, you can veto and force an override, but then we really gotta deal with the Dems.

And what do people think we'll get then to get those 67 votes (and whatever it is in the House)?

Sign or don't sign, Trump has little control over the finished product. He can't create and pass a budget all by himself.

He also has a ticking clock and a gun to his head.

So I give him half the blame. But only half.
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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #114 on: September 12, 2018, 07:37:29 PM »
What? Interest rates weren't pushing 20% when Trump took office???

Oh, that's right, they were practically zero in historical terms when he took office... Parallels? What parallels...

 Not to mention inflation and other economic indicators from 1980 compared to 2016.


I have a hunch that many of the posters who are running to Trump’s defense on this issue were fit to be tied and blamed Obama when the debt reached > 100% of GDP under his tenure
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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #115 on: September 12, 2018, 07:46:24 PM »
And that's the rub. So Trump raises tariffs, and everyone screams that it will sink the markets and ruin the economy.

Yet if Trump doesn't sign a bill to fund the govt, what do people think will happen? Yes, you can veto and force an override, but then we really gotta deal with the Dems.

And what do people think we'll get then to get those 67 votes (and whatever it is in the House)?

Sign or don't sign, Trump has little control over the finished product. He can't create and pass a budget all by himself.

He also has a ticking clock and a gun to his head.

So I give him half the blame. But only half.


Yes.  Well said.

( I see common sense on here means nothing to most on here! Not talking about you)

Did you read how CONGRESS, all of them...will go on strike & not support TRUMP on anything, if he try's to get rid of Sessions? His hands are tied by so many in congress. Then muslim Judges, sue TRUMP for wanting a TEMP ban on islamist's going into USA. The same one's obama used.  People have no idea.  I can't blame TRUMP, at all.

RINO L. Graham,  said TRUMP will have hell to pay if he gets rid of Sessions. It will be the end of his presidency.
How can he work with congress? 

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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
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« Reply #117 on: September 12, 2018, 07:54:13 PM »
People can google themselves. Congress plans to save their hide, over Americans & mutiny, If TRUMP wants to remove dead wood.
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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #118 on: September 12, 2018, 07:54:29 PM »
My bet is auto financing will be the next one to pop.


Not to mention the student loan issue.
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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #119 on: September 12, 2018, 08:04:59 PM »
@corbe

Ouch....lol

The responses to that should be interesting


He is still correct.  What happened to the,  rest of the speech?  Taking out of context, means nothing.  He has ALWAYS said working with congress & within the constitution.  Man, this is NOT a conservative site.  He, as LONE PRESIDENT can fix it. He is. Just not quick enough for some.  I don't see republicans posting.

So, he underestimated the size of the swamp.

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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #120 on: September 12, 2018, 08:05:59 PM »


n Barack Obama’s last 16 months in office, the number of jobs in the US increased by 2.4%. In the first 16 months of Trump’s administration, jobs rose by 2.1%,  Trumps job approval is not 50% even in delusions.
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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #121 on: September 12, 2018, 08:06:21 PM »
And that's the rub. So Trump raises tariffs, and everyone screams that it will sink the markets and ruin the economy.

Yet if Trump doesn't sign a bill to fund the govt, what do people think will happen? Yes, you can veto and force an override, but then we really gotta deal with the Dems.

And what do people think we'll get then to get those 67 votes (and whatever it is in the House)?

Sign or don't sign, Trump has little control over the finished product. He can't create and pass a budget all by himself.

He also has a ticking clock and a gun to his head.

So I give him half the blame. But only half.

Dem's got everything they wanted in the last spending spree. Hard to imagine how it could have been worse had he vetoed it.

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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #122 on: September 12, 2018, 08:06:51 PM »
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Re: Federal deficit soars 32 percent to $895B
« Reply #123 on: September 12, 2018, 08:16:43 PM »
Dem's got everything they wanted in the last spending spree. Hard to imagine how it could have been worse had he vetoed it.

You obviously don't know the Dems.
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« Reply #124 on: September 12, 2018, 08:49:12 PM »

He is still correct.  What happened to the,  rest of the speech?  Taking out of context, means nothing.  He has ALWAYS said working with congress & within the constitution.  Man, this is NOT a conservative site.  He, as LONE PRESIDENT can fix it. He is. Just not quick enough for some.  I don't see republicans posting.

So, he underestimated the size of the swamp.

He was correct in that video @corbe posted but taken out of context? Huh?
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