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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #50 on: September 08, 2018, 07:07:39 pm »
Thanks @austingirl for bringing a little sanity back to this discussion.

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The best chance a third party ever had or ever will have was Dallas Billionaire H. Ross Perot.  This guy managed to attract a LOT of people and all he succeeded in doing was getting Clinton elected.


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Not true. He got a YUGE government contract for his company to digitize ALL the SS records,and IIRC,it was signed in the WH within a week of Bubba being sworn in. Which led to a YUGE increase in the stock value of his company,allowing him to take  home a YUGE profit when he pretty much immediately sold it.

Ross,the weasel,Perot. He hated the Bush Crime Family almost as much as I do,but it took profits to get  him to commit what amounted to treason by being paid to overthrow the election.



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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #51 on: September 08, 2018, 07:08:28 pm »
Are you on Twitter as Free Vulcan?

I am, see link below.

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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #52 on: September 08, 2018, 07:08:46 pm »
It might be more of a case of not knowing what Republican party is anymore.  But I assure you that Sasse would not be going left, but toward the original intent of the government set up by the Founding Fathers.

That is something both the Democrat and Republican Party loathe more than anything. 

So if Sasse wants to move into something that promotes the original intent of the Founders in terms of governance, then he will have to do it in a new party - because the intents of the Founders and Conservative principles are as eschewed and held in contempt by the GOP as it is the Dems.
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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #53 on: September 08, 2018, 07:09:19 pm »

Emjay

Not true. He got a YUGE government contract for his company to digitize ALL the SS records,and IIRC,it was signed in the WH within a week of Bubba being sworn in. Which led to a YUGE increase in the stock value of his company,allowing him to take  home a YUGE profit when he pretty much immediately sold it.

Ross,the weasel,Perot. He hated the Bush Crime Family almost as much as I do,but it took profits to get  him to commit what amounted to treason by being paid to overthrow the election.


A lot of people got hysterical at me on this thread because I was upset with Sasse even though I made it clear that I like Sasse very much and think he is one of the great (white) hopes for the party.

I do not want him to drift over into Never Never Land because of annoyance with Republicans.  We're on a pretty good roll right now even with Trump and should soon have two really good new Justices in the court.  I am thrilled with Kavanaugh.  He did not put a foot wrong.  Could Trump have nominated two better people?  Don't see how.

Pete, that's crazytalk.  You're saying that Perot threw the election because Clinton promised him a big government contract? 

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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #54 on: September 08, 2018, 07:11:26 pm »
Pete, that's crazytalk.  You're saying that Perot threw the election because Clinton promised him a big government contract?

@Sanguine

Yes,for profits as well as his hatred of the Bush Crime Family.
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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #55 on: September 08, 2018, 07:18:07 pm »
   Hey Sasse, Come to our party and bring your Friends Cruz, Lee, Jordan, Meadows and the other like minded Congress Critters.  It's a low mileage vehicle with a full frame and we can drop a 454 in it.



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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #56 on: September 08, 2018, 07:20:42 pm »
That is ridiculous.  I posted yesterday on the hearings thread how impressed I was with Sasse.

And I have repeatedly stated that the only reason I am upset by his tweet is that I do like him and don't want him to throw his political future away.

Do you have any sensible response?

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Well now...isn’t it illuminating that you assumed I was referring to you?   Eminently sensible, I’d say.
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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #57 on: September 08, 2018, 07:22:34 pm »
Would he actually consider joining the party of abortion and open borders?

You describe both the Democrat and the Republican parties here, the latter having just handed Planned Parenthood a check for half a billion dollars of the taxpayers' money while refusing to fund a wall.
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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #58 on: September 08, 2018, 07:28:46 pm »
Amen!!!  The problem with Sasse?..............There isn't any.  The problem is with the Trump administration smearing good Americans who have taken oaths to serve.  This Senator knows his job.  He understands the Constitution and the separate powers of government.  He is a good man that loves his country and his family.

Sasse looks pretty decent to me.  Has Trump said anything about Sasse?

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The fan club has "picked" on Ben Sasse but I am certain that he is better than the majority of Trumps Administration which is falling apart.

As a matter of curiosity:  Who do you dislike in the Trump administration at this time?


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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #59 on: September 08, 2018, 07:30:35 pm »
You describe both the Democrat and the Republican parties here, the latter having just handed Planned Parenthood a check for half a billion dollars of the taxpayers' money while refusing to fund a wall.
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Smackdown against Trump and the GOP?!?  You must love ISIS and M13.  Go back to DU.  Hillary lost, get over it.  blah blah blah.  We don't like that.  You know the rest you traitorous thinker.
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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #60 on: September 08, 2018, 07:31:55 pm »
lol
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.

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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #61 on: September 08, 2018, 07:32:37 pm »
There is no Republican party anymore.  It is a huge experiment in reality show.


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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #62 on: September 08, 2018, 07:34:09 pm »
@Hoodat
Smackdown against Trump and the GOP?!?  You must love ISIS and M13.  Go back to DU.  Hillary lost, get over it.  blah blah blah.  We don't like that.  You know the rest you traitorous thinker.

LOL!
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #63 on: September 08, 2018, 07:34:33 pm »
Sasse looks pretty decent to me.  Has Trump said anything about Sasse?

As a matter of curiosity:  Who do you dislike in the Trump administration at this time?


   That's a Trick Question, isn't it, @the_doc ?
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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #65 on: September 08, 2018, 07:43:58 pm »
Sasse looks pretty decent to me.  Has Trump said anything about Sasse?

As a matter of curiosity:  Who do you dislike in the Trump administration at this time?
Let's start with the ones in prison, then the ones under investigation, then the ones who resigned in disgrace, then the ones currently under a cloud of scandal, then the ones who said they wanted to eliminate their departments before they started getting a paycheck, and that leaves Nikki.  I like Nikki.

Linda McMahon has been ok as Administrator of the Small Business Administration too.
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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #66 on: September 08, 2018, 07:45:04 pm »
Sasse looks pretty decent to me.  Has Trump said anything about Sasse?

As a matter of curiosity:  Who do you dislike in the Trump administration at this time?

Sasse is a NeverTrumper.

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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #67 on: September 08, 2018, 07:52:04 pm »
@Chosen Daughter
Let's start with the ones in prison, then the ones under investigation, then the ones who resigned in disgrace, then the ones currently under a cloud of scandal, then the ones who said they wanted to eliminate their departments before they started getting a paycheck, and that leaves Nikki.  I like Nikki.

Linda McMahon has been ok as Administrator of the Small Business Administration too.

The operative phrase was:  in the Trump Administration at this time.

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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #68 on: September 08, 2018, 07:52:30 pm »
   That's a Trick Question, isn't it, @the_doc ?

@the_doc  and @corbe

Considering that Trump doesn't even know who to like in his own administration.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #69 on: September 08, 2018, 07:54:18 pm »
@Chosen Daughter
The operative phrase was:  in the Trump Administration at this time.

and the administration list will yet be reduced again once they find op-ed author.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #70 on: September 08, 2018, 07:56:09 pm »
Sasse is a NeverTrumper.

You should definitely purge him from your party then.
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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #71 on: September 08, 2018, 07:57:06 pm »
@the_doc  and @corbe

Considering that Trump doesn't even know who to like in his own administration.

A lot of the folks in his administration are bureaucratic holdovers.  (Some of his early appointments were disasters, of course, like McMaster--who was reporting to Soros, of all things.)

Still, what has Trump said about Sasse?

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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #72 on: September 08, 2018, 07:58:18 pm »


It OK because you love drama.  Trump is the biggest drama King.

AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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« Reply #73 on: September 08, 2018, 08:01:11 pm »
and the administration list will yet be reduced again once they find op-ed author.

I'm not completely convinced that the op-ed author was "in the Trump administration."  Even then, not likely an important official.

Don't get me wrong.  I don't like Trump.  But I don't hate him.  I think he is trying hard at his job, even if he is a bull in a china shop--like some many folks on TBR would be if they were POTUS.

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Re: GOP senator says he 'regularly' considers leaving Republican Party
« Reply #74 on: September 08, 2018, 08:01:21 pm »
You should definitely purge him from your party then.

NeverTrumpers tend to purge themselves. I have no problem with Sasse being in the GOP. But I do
think he is stupid to want to see Hillary as POTUS. No serious conservative would want to see that.
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