Poll

Is the deep state a real threat or is it a paranoid conspiracy theory?

It's a real threat.
13 (61.9%)
It's just another paranoid conspiracy theory.
8 (38.1%)

Total Members Voted: 21

Author Topic: Is the deep state a real threat or is it a paranoid conspiracy theory?  (Read 5358 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Quix

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7,697
  • Gender: Male
  • Times R a changin' Walk with God!
Re: Is the deep state a real threat or is it a paranoid conspiracy theory?
« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2018, 03:45:16 am »
Yeah, I've been listening to you kooks trying to convince everyone that there is nothing to see here. Obama and his crew didn't bug Trump Towers, didn't engage govt' officials in manufacturing dirt on opposing candidates, didn't actively tank real criminality by multiple players on their team and so on and so forth. There is a deep state. It has been exposed. It is not a debate anymore

Jesus is clearly coming soon--I agree with Frank Canon!
« Last Edit: September 06, 2018, 03:45:49 am by Quix »
Forgive all; In all things Thank God; Love all. Love 1st, most & always... BE CALM & DO THE NEXT LOVING THING.
POTTERY SITE ON ETSY: https://www.etsy.com/shop/ACTIVELOVE
QUIX thread for Quix GLOBALISM, UFO ETC topics here:http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=206517.new#new WILLIAM TOMPKINS Disclosure bk thread: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,224639.0.html . Calling: To afflict the comfortable & comfort the afflicted[/

Offline Quix

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7,697
  • Gender: Male
  • Times R a changin' Walk with God!
Re: Is the deep state a real threat or is it a paranoid conspiracy theory?
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2018, 03:48:10 am »
I think it's a paranoid conspiracy theory propagated primarily by the most fanatical supporters of Donald Trump. [snip]


You are bright enough to be 100,000% better informed. Sheesh.

Please read at least half the leader's quotes from the last 200 years in their own writings and speeches

http://www.globalistagenda.org/quotes.htm
« Last Edit: September 06, 2018, 03:48:50 am by Quix »
Forgive all; In all things Thank God; Love all. Love 1st, most & always... BE CALM & DO THE NEXT LOVING THING.
POTTERY SITE ON ETSY: https://www.etsy.com/shop/ACTIVELOVE
QUIX thread for Quix GLOBALISM, UFO ETC topics here:http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=206517.new#new WILLIAM TOMPKINS Disclosure bk thread: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,224639.0.html . Calling: To afflict the comfortable & comfort the afflicted[/

Offline Quix

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7,697
  • Gender: Male
  • Times R a changin' Walk with God!
Re: Is the deep state a real threat or is it a paranoid conspiracy theory?
« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2018, 04:45:13 am »
@Machiavelli,

You are bright enough to be 100,000% better informed. Sheesh.

Please read at least half the leader's quotes from the last 200 years in their own writings and speeches

http://www.globalistagenda.org/quotes.htm

""This is a terrible thing to say. In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it’s just as bad not to say it.""

Jacques Cousteau in an interview with the UNESCO Courier for November 1991

Note: Cousteau was talking about deliberately exterminating an extra 350,000 individuals per day above the natural death rate.



« Last Edit: September 06, 2018, 10:32:18 am by Quix »
Forgive all; In all things Thank God; Love all. Love 1st, most & always... BE CALM & DO THE NEXT LOVING THING.
POTTERY SITE ON ETSY: https://www.etsy.com/shop/ACTIVELOVE
QUIX thread for Quix GLOBALISM, UFO ETC topics here:http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=206517.new#new WILLIAM TOMPKINS Disclosure bk thread: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,224639.0.html . Calling: To afflict the comfortable & comfort the afflicted[/

Offline Weird Tolkienish Figure

  • Technical
  • *****
  • Posts: 18,167
Re: Is the deep state a real threat or is it a paranoid conspiracy theory?
« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2018, 10:43:37 am »
It's a conspiracy theory for weak minded dullards.

Offline aligncare

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 25,916
  • Gender: Male
Re: Is the deep state a real threat or is it a paranoid conspiracy theory?
« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2018, 01:45:29 pm »
It's a conspiracy theory for weak minded dullards.

No need to go there, dude. Plenty of intelligent, thoughtful people see things differently than you on this subject. Doesn’t make them dullards or wrong.

Offline bigheadfred

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 18,597
  • Gender: Male
  • One day Closer
Re: Is the deep state a real threat or is it a paranoid conspiracy theory?
« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2018, 12:05:29 am »
It's a conspiracy theory for weak minded dullards.
@aligncare

Maybe. Just maybe. Aren't you the one suggesting "Zello"? WTF is that WTF?

You want or have a need to talk to people. And then have the opinion that the opinion of people who DO know how to read instead of just talk, are dullards?
She asked me name my foe then. I said the need within some men to fight and kill their brothers without thought of Love or God. Ken Hensley

Offline Frank Cannon

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26,097
  • Gender: Male
Re: Is the deep state a real threat or is it a paranoid conspiracy theory?
« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2018, 12:13:28 am »
It's a conspiracy theory for weak minded dullards.

Well then you have a legitimate reason for the path the Dossier took and how it ended up as a cornerstone for Special Prosecutors investigation. You can also explain why everyone involved with signing FISA warrants are now being investigated for criminality.

Can't wait for your explanation.

Offline bigheadfred

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 18,597
  • Gender: Male
  • One day Closer
Re: Is the deep state a real threat or is it a paranoid conspiracy theory?
« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2018, 12:16:19 am »
Well then you have a legitimate reason for the path the Dossier took and how it ended up as a cornerstone for Special Prosecutors investigation. You can also explain why everyone involved with signing FISA warrants are now being investigated for criminality.

Can't wait for your explanation.

+1
She asked me name my foe then. I said the need within some men to fight and kill their brothers without thought of Love or God. Ken Hensley

Offline Cyber Liberty

  • Coffee! Donuts! Kittens!
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 80,119
  • Gender: Male
  • 🌵🌵🌵
Re: Is the deep state a real threat or is it a paranoid conspiracy theory?
« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2018, 02:27:27 am »
You can also explain why everyone involved with signing FISA warrants are now being investigated for criminality.

Or dead.
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
I will NOT comply.
 
Castillo del Cyber Autonomous Zone ~~~~~>                          :dontfeed:

Offline ABX

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 900
  • Words full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Re: Is the deep state a real threat or is it a paranoid conspiracy theory?
« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2018, 02:37:12 am »
For what my opinion is worth (no one likes it anyway), I think there have been and always will be people, from all belief systems, right to left to everything else you can imagine, who desire that sort of power that people associate with the 'deep state'. There are always people and groups that want to run things....

.....but I believe in the law of increasing incompetence in regards to the government. The more they try to do and control, the more incompetent they become. 

Sure there are groups like the Club of Rome, Bilderbergers, Southern Baptist Convention, and Kentucky Fried Chicken who love to sit around, smoke cigars, and dream about plans to run things the way they want- usually not as notorious as most imagine. But the world and human nature is just far too complex and most are far too incompetent to do much beyond raise the price of tinfoil.

I believe there is a hell of a lot more chaos out there, even in the halls of power, than most are comfortable admitting. It is one thing to believe there are secret controllers pulling all the strings, but to many, it is far more frightening to think that it is mostly chaos run by the incompetent which is (and has always through our history) hanging on by a thread.

It is why people cling to conspiracy theories, because frankly, the alternative is more frightening.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2018, 02:37:51 am by AbaraXas »

Offline ABX

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 900
  • Words full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Re: Is the deep state a real threat or is it a paranoid conspiracy theory?
« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2018, 02:43:16 am »
Well then you have a legitimate reason for the path the Dossier took and how it ended up as a cornerstone for Special Prosecutors investigation. You can also explain why everyone involved with signing FISA warrants are now being investigated for criminality.

Can't wait for your explanation.

Incompetence.

Someone wrote an outrageous fiction worthy of The Onion (any one of us could have come up with something more plausible than peeing on beds). They probably thought, for shits and giggles (and a few dollars) they would pass it up.

Incompetent people all along the chain kept passing it up. They all failed to have even an iota of discernment- they simply wanted to believe something that fit their view- confirmation bias. None had the proper judgement to say stop.  And so on and so on and so on. The higher up the chain, the greater the level of incompetence. All it would have taken would be for one person to have said 'stop, this doesn't sound right, let's look a bit more'. But they were too incompetent.



Offline GrouchoTex

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7,382
  • Gender: Male
Re: Is the deep state a real threat or is it a paranoid conspiracy theory?
« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2018, 02:46:37 am »
@AbaraXas

More than one person has said that these people in D.C. couldn't  pull off a conspiracy because they couldn't agree on anything. That, as you have said, incompetence rules the day. Chaos is normal.

Offline Cyber Liberty

  • Coffee! Donuts! Kittens!
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 80,119
  • Gender: Male
  • 🌵🌵🌵
Re: Is the deep state a real threat or is it a paranoid conspiracy theory?
« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2018, 03:21:34 am »
Incompetence.

Someone wrote an outrageous fiction worthy of The Onion (any one of us could have come up with something more plausible than peeing on beds). They probably thought, for shits and giggles (and a few dollars) they would pass it up.

Incompetent people all along the chain kept passing it up. They all failed to have even an iota of discernment- they simply wanted to believe something that fit their view- confirmation bias. None had the proper judgement to say stop.  And so on and so on and so on. The higher up the chain, the greater the level of incompetence. All it would have taken would be for one person to have said 'stop, this doesn't sound right, let's look a bit more'. But they were too incompetent.

Are you really Jerzy Kosiński?
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
I will NOT comply.
 
Castillo del Cyber Autonomous Zone ~~~~~>                          :dontfeed:

Offline Frank Cannon

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26,097
  • Gender: Male
Re: Is the deep state a real threat or is it a paranoid conspiracy theory?
« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2018, 03:38:09 am »
Incompetence.

Someone wrote an outrageous fiction worthy of The Onion (any one of us could have come up with something more plausible than peeing on beds). They probably thought, for shits and giggles (and a few dollars) they would pass it up.

Incompetent people all along the chain kept passing it up. They all failed to have even an iota of discernment- they simply wanted to believe something that fit their view- confirmation bias. None had the proper judgement to say stop.  And so on and so on and so on. The higher up the chain, the greater the level of incompetence. All it would have taken would be for one person to have said 'stop, this doesn't sound right, let's look a bit more'. But they were too incompetent.

None of the participants were incompetent. Just read the texts and the actions the people took. McCain didn't send one of his stooges to the UK to get a copy, read it and then said it would be a lark to send it to the FBI. McCabe, Rosenstooge, Ohr and Struck didn't look at it, have a good laugh and then decide to put their asses in legal jeopardy signing FISA warrants because they thought it would make for chortle worthy chit chat at the Selgrave Club over martinis. Obama and Hitlary didn't coordinate shepherding this Dossier through it's channels because they though Trump would have a good laugh about it after he lost the election. Obama and Holder didn't wire tap Trump towers because they thought it would be cool to play the tapes at Richard Branson's island parties.

Your whole premise is flawed by the fact that we have evidence that serious people with a serious mission were working in concert to conduct a specific mission.