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Offline Timothy Dennis

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To be brief, the Pope can offer a SOLUTION to priestly pedophilia: marriage. Or, does the Pope prefer "celibacy" over the well-being of children? It is time that priests be allowed to marry and thereby put an end to the defilement of children by "Christian" persons.
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To be brief, the Pope can offer a SOLUTION to priestly pedophilia: marriage. Or, does the Pope prefer "celibacy" over the well-being of children? It is time that priests be allowed to marry and thereby put an end to the defilement of children by "Christian" persons.

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To be brief, the Pope can offer a SOLUTION to priestly pedophilia: marriage. Or, does the Pope prefer "celibacy" over the well-being of children? It is time that priests be allowed to marry and thereby put an end to the defilement of children by "Christian" persons.

How is that going to correct the issue of gays and/or pedophiles abusing minors?  Or are you suggesting that the Catholic Church recognize same sex marriage....?  I don't think "marriage" is the solution.
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The reason priests are having sex with children is because they're not allowed to have it with women.

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Jerry Sandusky was married to a woman.

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The reason priests are having sex with children is because they're not allowed to have it with women.

Sorry....but.... I just don't believe that to be true.
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My brother-in-law is a major leader in the Holy Cross order.

His seminary graduation class had 8 people.
7 of the 8 have left the priesthood (my brother-in-law is the last remaining one to remain a priest)

Of those 7, 6 left the priesthood to marry another man.

The problem is homosexuals in the seminaries.
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Bill Donohue, Catholic League got into the news with his commentary on this since the story came out... however this was on his twitter:
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There is no on-going crisis—it's a total myth. Over the past two years, .005 percent of the Catholic clergy have had a credible accusation made against him.
https://twitter.com/catholicleague

Okay, so that's only 2 years, I will watch the situation.

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Sorry....but.... I just don't believe that to be true.

I don't believe that either, however, I think getting rid of the vow of celibacy would help to quell much of the deviance that has long haunted the Catholic clergy.  Forcing celibacy on people is not in the spirit of what the scriptures say.  Just my opinion.

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Sorry....but.... I just don't believe that to be true.
@XenaLee

Right now, a Catholic Diocese in this area has a problem.  A Priest "in training" (one who is sent from church to church for a period of time to train to have his own church), has accused a Priest of having an affair with a woman in his church.  This accuser sent a letter to the Priest telling him to step down or be reported. The letter used "graphic" sentences.  The accused Priest took the letter to the Bishop. An investigation was done and there was no evidence this affair took place.  Due to some of the sentences used by the accuser, it appears he has a mental problem.  He was sent to Atlanta for a psychological/physical exam to determine if he requires medical services. This information just came out so I don't know if the accuser has come back from Atlanta.

So, the accused Priest didn't have this affair but was accused.  I thought about this because I taught English to a Priest last year and we were in his office with the door closed. We met every week.  If someone took note of this, didn't know why I was in there every week, we could have been accused of something like this accused Priest was.  The Priest I helped now has his own church.

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To be brief, the Pope can offer a SOLUTION to priestly pedophilia: marriage. Or, does the Pope prefer "celibacy" over the well-being of children? It is time that priests be allowed to marry and thereby put an end to the defilement of children by "Christian" persons.

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Well,to be fair,there are a hell of a lot of married men as well as women that molest children. Marriage will NOT eliminate child rape,but there can be no question it will help unless the Church uses "we have married priests now,so there is no child rape here anymore!" as an excuse to cover up any that remains.

It also needs to be said that not all homosexuals are sexually attracted to children.
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The reason priests are having sex with children is because they're not allowed to have it with women.

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ROFLMAO!

Are you claiming that if you didn't have access to adult women for sexual release,that YOU would rape children?

Pedophiles are sexually attracted to CHILDREN,period. They may PREFER one gender over another,but it's the innocence the are after.
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Forcing celibacy on people is not in the spirit of what the scriptures say.

No, it's not.  God recognizes that we're not perfect.

But, on the other hand, it's what he would prefer from us (I Cor 7:1), and so you'd expect that those who were the "holiest" would follow God's will best.

Perhaps the problem, and this stretches across to Protestant churches, is that clergy are no longer feeling they must adhere to the Bible.  I know Protestant pastors who tell me how few of their colleagues are actually believers.  Same with priests.  Many lose their faith but have no other career path.
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No, I wouldn't have sex with children, boob. A celebate is one that abstains from sex, period. Especially, no sneaking around and playing with little children.

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Getting married will sure solve the 'having sex' problem.

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No Women Priests and no married priests.   That is how it has been, and how it shall be.
Halfway correct. There will never be women priests - this is doctrine, has been supported by the present liberal Pope and was an infallible teaching by conservative JPII.

Married priests - this is just a matter of policy, not doctrine. There are married priests right now...Anglican order priests (those that convert to Catholicism from the Anglican church) who were married as Anglicans remain married. Priests have been married in the past as well.

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To be brief, the Pope can offer a SOLUTION to priestly pedophilia: marriage. Or, does the Pope prefer "celibacy" over the well-being of children? It is time that priests be allowed to marry and thereby put an end to the defilement of children by "Christian" persons.
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Emphatically disagree that celibacy is the cause and marriage the solution;
(bet that within a few generations we'll be shocked at the high divorce rate
within the Catholic Priesthood).
A married RC priesthood was the norm from the Apostles to the Great Schism
of 1054 between the Roman and Greek Rites.
Cultural tolerance of behavior such as homosexuality has led to its encouragement
and then to permissiveness, which changed attitudes and then societal norms.
Consider; large groupings of males such as the Military, the Boy Scouts and other
Ministries have made these institutions subject to predatory behavior for a long time.
None of this is news but the disgraceful handling of this scandal by the Church
Hierarchy has made it far worse.



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To be brief, the Pope can offer a SOLUTION to priestly pedophilia: marriage. Or, does the Pope prefer "celibacy" over the well-being of children? It is time that priests be allowed to marry and thereby put an end to the defilement of children by "Christian" persons.
That will not fix homosexual pedophilia, which appears to be the problem. And don't even suggest that the Church start having "Gay Marriages".

What needs to happen is that these pedophiles need to be rooted out, defrocked, and sent to civil authorities for prosecution. Clean house.
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That will not fix homosexual pedophilia, which appears to be the problem. And don't even suggest that the Church start having "Gay Marriages".

What needs to happen is that these pedophiles need to be rooted out, defrocked, and sent to civil authorities for prosecution. Clean house.

I wonder how many people have turned away from the church and lost their faith because of all of these scandals....?  I wouldn't want to be in those priests' shoes come Judgement Day.
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I wonder how many people have turned away from the church and lost their faith because of all of these scandals....?  I wouldn't want to be in those priests' shoes come Judgement Day.
The media, especially those in with the GiBLeT crew, just love the opportunity to slam the Church, which won't support Liberal pet causes like homosexual 'marriage'. Of course, the numbers are hyped, but that it is out of some 410,000 priests is not. I'd wager there are far, far, more pedophiles in the general population by percentage.
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Being able to marry might bring more priests in...to replace the old ones that need to be gone.
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To be brief, the Pope can offer a SOLUTION to priestly pedophilia: marriage. Or, does the Pope prefer "celibacy" over the well-being of children? It is time that priests be allowed to marry and thereby put an end to the defilement of children by "Christian" persons.

While I will agree that such a position would be attractive to both homosexuals and pedophiles, And while I agree generally that a married man is less likely to participate in such things, there is no guarantee.

A man willing to break his vow to commit homosexual acts or pedophilia, is no less inclined to break that vow for heterosexual acts, or break a  vow of marriage.

In my mind, it is not the sinful priests which are the point of the spear here, as that will be found in any case where a trusted position is found, at least to some degree... 

It is the systemic collusion and protection thereof that is the corruption.

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Being able to marry might bring more priests in...to replace the old ones that need to be gone.

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That's very true. It might even bring in enough to cover the shortage they now have. Sure,it's speculation,but it does seem likely.
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