Frank Luntz: GOP facing ‘potential political disaster’ in midterms

[mystery-ak]

Frank Luntz: GOP facing ‘potential political disaster’ in midterms
By Aris Folley - 08/09/18 09:49 AM EDT

Republican pollster Frank Luntz said the GOP is heading towards a “potential political disaster” in the November midterm elections.

Speaking to The Associated Press, Luntz said that while the president energizes his party’s base, he anticipates Trump’s distractions and rhetoric could deter swing voters in battleground elections in House districts.

“This is political malpractice,” he told the news agency in a report published on Wednesday.

“You can’t find me a time in modern times when the economy was this strong and the governing party was headed toward a potential political disaster like this,” Luntz continued.

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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/401051-frank-luntz-gop-facing-potential-political-disaster-in-midterms

[Night Hides Not]

Hey Frank, sit down, shut up, and buy a better toupee.

“You can’t find me a time in modern times when the economy was this strong and the governing party was headed toward a potential political disaster like this,” Luntz continued.

IMO, the "governing party" hasn't "governed"...no wall, ballooning deficits, etc. About the only thing they've done well is confirm Trump's judges.

[Bigun]

Bovine fecal matter! 

[Frank Cannon]

Hey Frank. Can you explain how winning Special Elections equates into a massive loss? Oh yeah. It doesn't.

Frank Luntz on Twitter, November 8, 2016: “Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States.”

[Night Hides Not]

Hey Frank. Can you explain how winning Special Elections equates into a massive loss? Oh yeah. It doesn't.

Frank Luntz on Twitter, November 8, 2016: “Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States.”

What's funny about his prediction is that his focus groups weren't saying that, they were pretty strong for Trump IIRC.

[Emjay]

Hey Frank. Can you explain how winning Special Elections equates into a massive loss? Oh yeah. It doesn't.

Frank Luntz on Twitter, November 8, 2016: “Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States.”

It's been a long time since Frank Luntz has been right about anything and an even longer time since he's been relevant.

[ArneFufkin]

Nearly 380,000 votes were cast in Ohio 12 in 2016.   Around 205,000 in Tuesday's Special election.

One would suspect that Democrats, who we are constantly being told are "engaged, motivated, enthused", would have a higher representation at the polls last Tuesday for an early-August Special Election than would the Republicans who have historically made this District a reliably red one.

With Gubernatorial and a U.S. Senate race on the ballot November 6, one can expect more of a Presidential year turnout than the usual off-year participation.    That bodes well for the GOP, whose supporters have other interests and obligations in their lives besides politics and who are quick to suffer political fatigue.

Luntz is a jackass.  He says whatever those who pay him want to hear.   The supporters of GOP policy and candidates will be out en force this November.   If the RATS had taken eight of nine of these special elections I'd be worried.   But, the GOP candidates took 8 out of 9.

[mystery-ak]

Cook says Dems out-performing in special elections by 8 percent
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/401111-cook-says-dems-out-performing-in-special-elections-by-8-percent

[bilo]

Cook says Dems out-performing in special elections by 8 percent
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/401111-cook-says-dems-out-performing-in-special-elections-by-8-percent

I think the pollsters are just guessing at this, more so than in the past.

Everyone had hillary winning and she didn't. It wasn't even supposed to be close.

No one has a clear vision of what the turnout will be. They can look at past results, but I don't believe that takes into account the voters who were previously blue collar Rats that crossed over for Trump and those who will cross over for him now because they see his America First policies being implemented. I know he's not on the ballot, but he will be busy campaigning and those Pubs that embrace him will probably get a big boost.

[Wingnut]

It's been a long time since Frank Luntz has been right about anything and an even longer time since he's been relevant.

He is the bastard son of another irrelevant, past his use by date, white board waving, stuck on stupid chump.

[Victoria33]

"Cook says Dems out-performing in special elections by 8 percent
cook-says-dems-out-performing-in-special-elections-by-8-percent"

What he means is Dems are showing up in special elections by a number they have not before.  That means they are interested NOW; that also means more of them will show up in November than ever before.  Add independents who vote from emotion, and they don't like the bombast Trump, so will also show up in November to vote against him, which is vote for Democrats.  This is an educated guess that it could happen this way and it is also what Luntz means, but no one knows until it actually happens.

[Emjay]

"Cook says Dems out-performing in special elections by 8 percent
cook-says-dems-out-performing-in-special-elections-by-8-percent"

What he means is Dems are showing up in special elections by a number they have not before.  That means they are interested NOW; that also means more of them will show up in November than ever before.  Add independents who vote from emotion, and they don't like the bombast Trump, so will also show up in November to vote against him, which is vote for Democrats.  This is an educated guess that it could happen this way and it is also what Luntz means, but no one knows until it actually happens.

Trump has no bombast to compare with Luntz.

[ArneFufkin]

A more sober analysis:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/08/08/gops_special_election_wins_counter_media_spin_137760.html

[libertybele]

With so many hit pieces from the MSM focusing on GOP disasters I am now inclined to declare B.S. and look forward to a red tidal wave like never seen before! 

[truth_seeker]

The story that is missing:

"In midterm elections, the President's party usually loses seats."

Therefore if Republicans lose, t is normal, to be expected.

In not a negative reflection on Trump."

Thid missing story parallels the absence of positive coverage of the Republican President, for over 3 years.


"Republicans, the Emancipation, Suffrage and Civil Rights Party, btw."

I know, I know. Not all Republicans are Conservatives. But (nearly) all Conservatives are Republicans

[ArneFufkin]

"Cook says Dems out-performing in special elections by 8 percent
cook-says-dems-out-performing-in-special-elections-by-8-percent"

What he means is Dems are showing up in special elections by a number they have not before.  That means they are interested NOW; that also means more of them will show up in November than ever before.  Add independents who vote from emotion, and they don't like the bombast Trump, so will also show up in November to vote against him, which is vote for Democrats.  This is an educated guess that it could happen this way and it is also what Luntz means, but no one knows until it actually happens.

Yes, but special elections have been getting around 50-55% of the turnout that Presidential year elections get in those districts. 

Do you think there is any meaningful number of Democrats who are virulently anti-Trump who stayed home during these special elections yet will swarm to the polls in November?   It seems to me these lunatics could not wait to make their statement.  People who don't like Trump were motivated to cast a vote against him.

I think it's more likely that it will be a swarm of independents, GOP regulars and Trump Democrats who'll comprise the voters who ignored or bypassed the Special Election but will vote this November.   This Ohio election, in particular, is really a three month term until the November election.   It really had little policy implication one way or the other so some folks, enjoying the summer vacations and life's activities, just blew it off.

[Free Vulcan]

With so many hit pieces from the MSM focusing on GOP disasters I am now inclined to declare B.S. and look forward to a red tidal wave like never seen before! 

Truly. How many times have we seen this? After a point it sounds more like they are trying to depress GOP turnout than chronicling Dem enthusiasm.

Been watching RealClearPolitics, the body of polls are starting to look good for the GOP.

[truth_seeker]

A more sober analysis:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/08/08/gops_special_election_wins_counter_media_spin_137760.html

Thanks for the virtually nonexistent counter-balance to the continuous drumbeat of Anti-Trump "news" delivery here at the Hub.

[DCPatriot]

Thanks for the virtually nonexistent counter-balance to the continuous drumbeat of Anti-Trump "news" delivery here at the Hub.

 

[INVAR]

A Chicagoland joke seems fitting here:

What street names rhyme with vagina?





Melvina

Paulina





And Luntz

[Absalom]

The fundamental problem is that any entity divided against itself,
simply will not stand. Examples are many but the GOP stands out.
The R establishment, which includes funkys such as Luntz,
was and remains viscerally opposed to Trump.
One or both will collapse in time; the reality of history.
And all the verbal abuse available to Man will not change that reality.
 

[libertybele]

The fundamental problem is that any entity divided against itself,
simply will not stand. Examples are many but the GOP stands out.
The R establishment, which includes funkys such as Luntz,
was and remains viscerally opposed to Trump.
One or both will collapse in time; the reality of history.
And all the verbal abuse available to Man will not change that reality.
 

Welcome to the Briefing Room.   

[INVAR]

The fundamental problem is that any entity divided against itself,
simply will not stand.

That goes especially for an entire country itself.

Not just a political party.

And we are irreconcilably divided to the verge of no longer being able to peaceably coexist in the same country together.

[Absalom]

That goes especially for an entire country itself.

Not just a political party.

And we are irreconcilably divided to the verge of no longer being able to peaceably coexist in the same country together.

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Fair comment.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Add independents who vote from emotion, and they don't like the bombast Trump, so will also show up in November to vote against him, which is vote for Democrats.

With all due respect @Victoria33 this is bullshit.  Independents and Reagan Democrats put Donald Trump in the White House --- and they did so knowing exactly who he is.  They are not going to abandon him or his agenda now.  Sorry, you are just plain wrong.