Author Topic: 'Boy or girl?' Parents raising 'theybies' let kids decide (Read 12957 times)

Jazzhead · « **Reply #50 on:** July 25, 2018, 02:17:27 pm »

Quote from: txradioguy on July 25, 2018, 01:59:53 pm

Complete unadulterated barnyard excrement. The shaping of these kids and how screwed up or not screwed up they turn out because of this trendy bullsh*t their parents are putting them through rests solely on the shoulders of the parents.

Parents play a huge role in teaching and demonstrating good values, honest and respectful behavior, and the like. So does churchin'. But on the basic question of sexual orientation (separate and apart from BEHAVIOR based on such orientation), that's God's doing. He wires you gay or straight. After that, it's up to you to live virtuously or sinfully.

INVAR · « **Reply #51 on:** July 25, 2018, 02:28:24 pm »

Quote from: Jazzhead on July 25, 2018, 02:17:27 pm

But on the basic question of sexual orientation (separate and apart from BEHAVIOR based on such orientation), that's God's doing. He wires you gay or straight.

No. Wrong.

The family, specifically the father wires children to accept gender roles, God is NOT the author of sin and perversion. That you would accuse Him of such speaks to what you are possessed in mind and heart by.

XenaLee · « **Reply #52 on:** July 25, 2018, 02:33:34 pm »

Quote from: Jazzhead on July 25, 2018, 02:17:27 pm

Parents play a huge role in teaching and demonstrating good values, honest and respectful behavior, and the like. So does churchin'. But on the basic question of sexual orientation (separate and apart from BEHAVIOR based on such orientation), that's God's doing. He wires you gay or straight. After that, it's up to you to live virtuously or sinfully.

Well, that right there is blasphemy. Not that I'm surprised, mind you. Coming from you, I've learned to expect just about anything.

XenaLee · « **Reply #53 on:** July 25, 2018, 02:37:12 pm »

Quote from: INVAR on July 25, 2018, 02:28:24 pm

No. Wrong.

The family, specifically the father wires children to accept gender roles, God is NOT the author of sin and perversion. That you would accuse Him of such speaks to what you are possessed in mind and heart by.

Hmmm.... could it be.....

txradioguy · « **Reply #54 on:** July 25, 2018, 02:46:16 pm »

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He wires you gay or straight.

Gay or straight is a preference made as an adult in the same manner that people prefer certain hair colors or body styles.

God doesn't wire you to be gay...that's uneducated Liberal bullsh*t.

I'd cite the scripture to show you're wrong...but they don't like religious discussions here and I'm tired of getting baselessly called a bigot by you for the millionth time.

musiclady · « **Reply #55 on:** July 25, 2018, 02:51:18 pm »

Quote from: txradioguy on July 25, 2018, 01:59:53 pm

Complete unadulterated barnyard excrement. The shaping of these kids and how screwed up or not screwed up they turn out because of this trendy bullsh*t their parents are putting them through rests solely on the shoulders of the parents.

Pedo's use the same type of excuse when they claim some 7 year old girl or boy was sexually attracted to them.

This is a fact that the homosexuality-is-wired-and-normal crowd would like us all to just ignore.

We are all 'wired' to sin because the first man and woman CHOSE to sin, and we have all chosen the same ever since.

This world is a sin-filled world, and all of it........ ALL of it .......... is man's choice, and not God's choosing.

People with genetic diseases they are born with (NO proof that homosexuality is inborn) were not "wired by God" to have those diseases.

They have them because we live in a fallen world.

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #56 on:** July 25, 2018, 02:53:12 pm »

Quote from: Jazzhead on July 25, 2018, 02:17:27 pm

Parents play a huge role in teaching and demonstrating good values, honest and respectful behavior, and the like. So does churchin'. But on the basic question of sexual orientation (separate and apart from BEHAVIOR based on such orientation), that's God's doing. He wires you gay or straight. After that, it's up to you to live virtuously or sinfully.

No, He doesn't wire people gay or straight. People get their wires crossed, though.

BTW, I see where the logic about illegal aliens not being criminals comes from. The same font as 'virtuous' perversion.

Jazzhead · « **Reply #57 on:** July 25, 2018, 02:55:38 pm »

Quote from: txradioguy on July 25, 2018, 02:46:16 pm

Gay or straight is a preference made as an adult in the same manner that people prefer certain hair colors or body styles.

God doesn't wire you to be gay...that's uneducated Liberal bullsh*t.

I'd cite the scripture to show you're wrong...but they don't like religious discussions here and I'm tired of getting baselessly called a bigot by you for the millionth time.

So you chose to be straight?

Behavior is a choice, not the way you're wired. If you're religious, it's God who wires you, right?

INVAR · « **Reply #58 on:** July 25, 2018, 02:56:06 pm »

Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 25, 2018, 02:53:12 pm

No, He doesn't wire people gay or straight. People get their wires crossed, though.

BTW, I see where the logic about illegal aliens not being criminals comes from. The same font as 'virtuous' perversion.

GREAT comparison! And so very true.

musiclady · « **Reply #59 on:** July 25, 2018, 02:56:36 pm »

Quote from: XenaLee on July 25, 2018, 02:33:34 pm

Well, that right there is blasphemy. Not that I'm surprised, mind you. Coming from you, I've learned to expect just about anything.

It's a great excuse for living a sinful life.

God 'wired' me to have a temper and hit people, so it's OK if I do it. God 'wired' me to want things I don't own, so it's OK for me to shoplift.

Truth: my sinful self was born with a temper and a desire to clock people who make me mad, and an urge to shoplift, and it is my obligation to suppress those sinful tendencies and live a moral life. Fortunately the second (childhood) urge is completely gone. The first, I still need to work on. ^-^

musiclady · « **Reply #60 on:** July 25, 2018, 02:58:42 pm »

Quote from: Jazzhead on July 25, 2018, 02:55:38 pm

So you chose to be straight?

Behavior is a choice, not the way you're wired. If you're religious, it's God who wires you, right?

If you understand Scripture at all, you KNOW it's not God who wires sin.

I hope you're playing devil's advocate here (literally) and just agitating, because I truly hope you aren't as ignorant as you come across.

Jazzhead · « **Reply #61 on:** July 25, 2018, 02:58:52 pm »

Quote from: XenaLee on July 25, 2018, 02:33:34 pm

Well, that right there is blasphemy. Not that I'm surprised, mind you. Coming from you, I've learned to expect just about anything.

It is blasphemy to assume that God makes mistakes. Do you choose to be straight? Of course not - it is how God made you. And it is up to you to live monogamously or promiscuously. That's your choice, not God's. But your wiring comes from God - gay or straight.

Jazzhead · « **Reply #62 on:** July 25, 2018, 02:59:59 pm »

Quote from: musiclady on July 25, 2018, 02:58:42 pm

If you understand Scripture at all, you KNOW it's not God who wires sin.

Sexual orientation is not sin. Sexual behavior can be sin. God wired you gay or straight. It is your choice what to do with that wiring.

musiclady · « **Reply #63 on:** July 25, 2018, 03:01:21 pm »

Quote from: Jazzhead on July 25, 2018, 02:58:52 pm

It is blasphemy to assume that God makes mistakes. Do you choose to be straight? Of course not - it is how God made you. And it is up to you to live monogamously or promiscuously. That's your choice, not God's. But your wiring comes from God - gay or straight.

Once again, abject ignorance.

Perhaps you should avoid talking religion when you are completely devoid of knowledge about it.

You ARE the one who brought it up on this thread, btw, so don't go blaming 'bigots' for defending the truth against your ignorance.

musiclady · « **Reply #64 on:** July 25, 2018, 03:03:02 pm »

Quote from: Jazzhead on July 25, 2018, 02:59:59 pm

Sexual orientation is not sin. Sexual behavior can be sin. God wired you gay or straight. It is your choice what to do with that wiring.

Says the man who hates religion and ignores what Scripture says......

Again............. stop bringing God into a discussion when you are completely ignorant about Him and His word.

I know you like agitation for agitation's sake, but do you like looking like a complete fool??

Jazzhead · « **Reply #65 on:** July 25, 2018, 03:04:25 pm »

Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 25, 2018, 02:53:12 pm

BTW, I see where the logic about illegal aliens not being criminals comes from. The same font as 'virtuous' perversion.

Unauthorized crossing of the border is an illegal misdemeanor. That's simply a fact. Reasonable minds can differ regarding the ultimate penalty for such misdemeanor - I would put much stock in what the individual did or didn't do after he crosses the border. It is madness to incarcerate 12 million people for the "criminal" act of coming here in search of a job.

INVAR · « **Reply #66 on:** July 25, 2018, 03:05:53 pm »

Quote from: Jazzhead on July 25, 2018, 02:55:38 pm

God wired you gay or straight.

NO. HE DIDN'T

That you would accuse God of being the author of what He Himself says is sin and abomination is demonic.

Because you claim Christianity, same as you claim Conservatism. You are neither.

You are anathema to both.

Quote from: Jazzhead on July 25, 2018, 02:55:38 pm

Behavior is a choice, not the way you're wired. If you're religious, it's God who wires you, right?

No. God does not 'wire' us to be religious anymore than He 'wires' us to perversion.

Exposure to beliefs and behaviors is what begins the process of 'wiring' us to proclivities, desires and behaviors.

dfwgator · « **Reply #67 on:** July 25, 2018, 03:07:06 pm »

Quote from: Jazzhead on July 25, 2018, 02:59:59 pm

Sexual orientation is not sin. Sexual behavior can be sin. God wired you gay or straight. It is your choice what to do with that wiring.

Are pedophiles wired that way, too?

thackney · « **Reply #68 on:** July 25, 2018, 03:08:43 pm »

Quote from: Jazzhead on July 25, 2018, 02:55:38 pm

So you chose to be straight?

Behavior is a choice, not the way you're wired. If you're religious, it's God who wires you, right?

The bible has many examples of free will and the ability to go against His laws.

1 Corinthians 10:13

2 Peter 3:9

John 7:17

Joshua 24:15

Mark 8:34

Romans 13:2

Deuteronomy 30:19-20

Ezekiel 18:30-32

INVAR · « **Reply #69 on:** July 25, 2018, 03:09:01 pm »

Quote from: dfwgator on July 25, 2018, 03:07:06 pm

Are pedophiles wired that way, too?

I'm sure he will say 'yes', and reiterate that acting on that behavior is what is sin.... today.

Tomorrow when they legalize child sex with adults, he will be an advocate for it.

txradioguy · « **Reply #70 on:** July 25, 2018, 03:09:23 pm »

Quote from: Jazzhead on July 25, 2018, 02:55:38 pm

So you chose to be straight?

It's a sexual preference like anything else...why is that so hard for you to understand?

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Behavior is a choice, not the way you're wired. If you're religious, it's God who wires you, right?

And being homosexual is a behavior choice...not one God plants in our DNA.

Once again you're trying to pervert God and how he made us to justify supporting a perverted and wholly unchristian way of life.

Jazzhead · « **Reply #71 on:** July 25, 2018, 03:09:24 pm »

Quote from: musiclady on July 25, 2018, 03:03:02 pm

Says the man who hates religion and ignores what Scripture says......

Again............. stop bringing God into a discussion when you are completely ignorant about Him and His word.

I know you like agitation for agitation's sake, but do you like looking like a complete fool??

I'm used to name calling, bub. I notice you don't respond with substance to what I say. Mere sexual orientation is not sin. Why are you so obsessed with who your neighbors love? Mind your own effin' business, and keep your own nose clean. This hung-up, dogmatic bullshit is why I say it's often necessary to reject religion to love God and Christ.

txradioguy · « **Reply #72 on:** July 25, 2018, 03:14:38 pm »

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Mere sexual orientation is not sin.

Once again you purposely lie.

Leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

God destroyed two entire cities over the citizens willful disobeying of this and other of God's Commandments.

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I say it's often necessary to reject religion to love God and Christ

Which shows how little you know about both...you have to tell yourself that to justify your belief set that is decidedly in Christian and goes against not only teachings in the Old Testament but the New testament as well.

GrouchoTex · « **Reply #73 on:** July 25, 2018, 03:21:22 pm »

Quote from: thackney on July 25, 2018, 03:08:43 pm

The bible has many examples of free will and the ability to go against His laws.

1 Corinthians 10:13

2 Peter 3:9

John 7:17

Joshua 24:15

Mark 8:34

Romans 13:2

Deuteronomy 30:19-20

Ezekiel 18:30-32

"Thou mayest" as John Steinbeck describes in East of Eden:

"'Thou mayest rule over sin," Lee said. That's it. I do not believe all men are destroyed. I can name you a dozen who were not, and they are the ones the world lives by. It is true of the spirit as it is true of the battles - only the winners are remembered. Surely most men are destroyed, but there are others who like pillars of fire guide frightened men through the darkness. 'Thou mayest, Thou mayest!' What glory! It is true that we are weak and sick and quarrelsome, but if that is all we ever were, we would, millenniums ago, have disappeared from the face of the earth. A few remnants of fossilized jawbone, some broken teeth in strats of limestone, would be the only mark man would have left of his existence in the world. But the choice, Lee, the choice of winning! I had never understood it or accepted it before. 'Thou mayest rule over sin.'"

austingirl · « **Reply #74 on:** July 25, 2018, 03:25:13 pm »

One doesn't choose to be straight, it is the natural order of things with a basis in biology and physiology, part of God's design. One does choose to pervert that reality. What homosexuals do together cannot result in new life- that's a big clue right there.