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Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
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Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”



Tomi Lahren began her appearance on Fox and Friends this morning by saying she wanted to “clarify” her statements in which she argued against overturning Roe v. Wade. Instead, Lahren doubled down, adding fuel to the fire by saying that conservatives who want to go after Roe “might as well spit on the Constitution.” Said Lahren:

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    “My problem is with some of my fellow conservatives who have put it out there that we are, quote: “coming for Roe v. Wade. That is a mistake, because we are putting it out there and implying that we are sending a justice to the bench to carry out religious judicial activism which is a mistake and it’s unconstitutional. And if we as conservatives are going to imply that, if that’s going to be our messaging, we might as well spit on the Constitution.”


http://finkelblogger.com/2018/07/11/tomi-lahren-conservatives-going-after-roe-might-as-well-spit-on-the-constitution/
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2018, 04:48:44 pm »
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Conservative Tomi Lahren Defends Abortion: Republicans Should Quit Talking About Social Issues

Conservative political commentator Tomi Lahren ripped into pro-lifers again last week as the nation waits for a new U.S. Supreme Court nominee from President Donald Trump.

Pro-lifers have high hopes that Trump will nominate a strong conservative justice to the high court, one who could be the deciding vote to overturn Roe v. Wade.

But Lahren strays from most conservatives on the abortion issue. On Fox News, she claimed that “pressing for a Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v. Wade would be a big mistake,” AOL reports.

Read more at: http://www.lifenews.com/2018/07/09/conservative-tomi-lahren-defends-abortion-republicans-should-quit-talking-about-social-issues/
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2018, 04:58:46 pm »
Roe created a right that wasn't previously there, definitely not in the Constitution. SCOTUS legislated from the bench.

Science has also advanced greatly since the 70's, so Lahren needs to understand that whatever 'right' she thinks exists may be greatly limited because of it.
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2018, 05:02:52 pm »
Shut up Tomi.
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2018, 05:03:04 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on July 11, 2018, 04:58:46 pm
Roe created a right that wasn't previously there, definitely not in the Constitution. SCOTUS legislated from the bench.

Science has also advanced greatly since the 70's, so Lahren needs to understand that whatever 'right' she thinks exists may be greatly limited because of it.

The larger point is that arguing the issue feeds right into the media-fed belief that the GOP wants to take away the woman's right to choose.

WTF is so hard for Republican strategists to understand about that.   Oh wait, it's not them.

Nope...it's a certain type of Conservative...the 'Taliban' of the Republican Party.

Don't like the analogy?  Leave women alone.
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2018, 05:09:59 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on July 11, 2018, 04:58:46 pm
Roe created a right that wasn't previously there, definitely not in the Constitution. SCOTUS legislated from the bench.

Science has also advanced greatly since the 70's, so Lahren needs to understand that whatever 'right' she thinks exists may be greatly limited because of it.

The right was ALWAYS there.  It is a natural right of a human being to have self-determination over his or her destiny.   The Constitution was established to protect our natural rights from the tyranny of the State.   

Sixty years ago the government could forbid the use of contraceptives.  Forty years ago the government could force a pregnant woman to reproduce.   Yes,  science has advanced greatly since the 70s, but so has our respect for the rights and equality before the law of women.   

The patriarchy is dead.   Get used to it.   
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2018, 05:11:26 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on July 11, 2018, 05:03:04 pm
The larger point is that arguing the issue feeds right into the media-fed belief that the GOP wants to take away the woman's right to choose.

WTF is so hard for Republican strategists to understand about that.   Oh wait, it's not them.

Nope...it's a certain type of Conservative...the 'Taliban' of the Republican Party.

Don't like the analogy?  Leave women alone.

That's patently stupid. There isn't an issue that doesn't feed the MSM narrative against the GOP. If people rolled over on abortion the MSM would be right on to the next issue. Hell, the MSM loved tariffs when Obama did them yet now they are ruining the country since Donny started in on it.

Feel free to jump on this stupid sluts bandwagon. I prefer not to seriously listen to people who are younger than the scotch I drink.
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2018, 05:12:15 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on July 11, 2018, 05:03:04 pm

Nope...it's a certain type of Conservative...the 'Taliban' of the Republican Party.

Don't like the analogy?  Leave women alone.

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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2018, 05:15:02 pm »
She is repeating something similar to that which Joe Biden, John McCain have said. That's who she should be plugging for, Biden and McCain or she should call for a Constitutional Convention to change the Constitution.

Get a Clue!  No Evangelicals, No President Trump, face the reality. Is her 15 minutes of fame up? What an airhead.
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2018, 05:15:22 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on July 11, 2018, 05:11:26 pm
That's patently stupid. There isn't an issue that doesn't feed the MSM narrative against the GOP. If people rolled over on abortion the MSM would be right on to the next issue. Hell, the MSM loved tariffs when Obama did them yet now they are ruining the country since Donny started in on it.

Feel free to jump on this stupid sluts bandwagon. I prefer not to seriously listen to people who are younger than the scotch I drink.

It's not because of Tomi Lahren, per se....this thread.

It's because it's an alternative POV.

Foreign concept to you? 
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2018, 05:16:46 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on July 11, 2018, 05:03:04 pm
The larger point is that arguing the issue feeds right into the media-fed belief that the GOP wants to take away the woman's right to choose.

WTF is so hard for Republican strategists to understand about that.   Oh wait, it's not them.

Nope...it's a certain type of Conservative...the 'Taliban' of the Republican Party.

Don't like the analogy?  Leave women alone.

So tell us great sage, would Trump have been elected without the Evangelical vote?  Yes or No?? No song and dance.

The "Taliban", hmmn.

Maybe the enlightened pro-choicers, secular humanists are truly like Nazis as seeing someone less than human.  :amen:
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2018, 05:18:25 pm »
Roger Stone, John McCain, these are who echo this point of view.

Keep your name-calling and just decide, you don't belong in the Trump camp.

John Adams said the Constitution is only for moral and religious people. So, the usual trashing of Christianity runs against, what at least some Founding Fathers opposed.
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2018, 05:20:20 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on July 11, 2018, 05:15:22 pm
It's not because of Tomi Lahren, per se....this thread.

It's because it's an alternative POV.

Foreign concept to you?

NAMBLA has an alternate point of view too. I don't subscribe to that stupid shit either.
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2018, 05:20:59 pm »
Glad Glen Beck canned her, didn't she play the victim card and try to sue him?

You all who believe like she does, go run to the Democratic party, that's their view. That's McCain's view, that is not the view of the GOP or President Donald Johnathan Trump.
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2018, 05:22:24 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on July 11, 2018, 05:09:59 pm
The right was ALWAYS there.  It is a natural right of a human being to have self-determination over his or her destiny.   The Constitution was established to protect our natural rights from the tyranny of the State.   

Sixty years ago the government could forbid the use of contraceptives.  Forty years ago the government could force a pregnant woman to reproduce.   Yes,  science has advanced greatly since the 70s, but so has our respect for the rights and equality before the law of women.   

The patriarchy is dead.   Get used to it.

That's your papal proclamation. Not much else backs you up, except the world view that exists only in your mind.
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2018, 05:24:15 pm »
Why stop at pre-birth, how about laws that parents can do away with their offspring for the first 18 years of their life??
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2018, 05:24:27 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on July 11, 2018, 05:03:04 pm
The larger point is that arguing the issue feeds right into the media-fed belief that the GOP wants to take away the woman's right to choose.

WTF is so hard for Republican strategists to understand about that.   Oh wait, it's not them.

Nope...it's a certain type of Conservative...the 'Taliban' of the Republican Party.

Don't like the analogy?  Leave women alone.

I'm willing to let science dictate the facts. If it has a heartbeat, it's a human being subject to all the rights the rest of us have.
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2018, 05:25:13 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on July 11, 2018, 05:15:22 pm
It's not because of Tomi Lahren, per se....this thread.

It's because it's an alternative POV.

Foreign concept to you?

Yes or no? Would Trump have been elected without the Evangelical vote?
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2018, 05:26:46 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on July 11, 2018, 05:09:59 pm
The right was ALWAYS there.  It is a natural right of a human being to have self-determination over his or her destiny.   The Constitution was established to protect our natural rights from the tyranny of the State.   

Sixty years ago the government could forbid the use of contraceptives.  Forty years ago the government could force a pregnant woman to reproduce.   Yes,  science has advanced greatly since the 70s, but so has our respect for the rights and equality before the law of women.   

The patriarchy is dead.   Get used to it.

John Adams is a founding father and said our Constitution is for a Moral and Religious people. Get over it. You just push secular humanism, a belief system in itself. You have no backup for anything you say and Scalia and Dershowitz dispel your radical leftwing interpretation of the Constitution.
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2018, 05:27:08 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on July 11, 2018, 05:24:27 pm
I'm willing to let science dictate the facts. If it has a heartbeat, it's a human being subject to all the rights the rest of us have.

 :amen:
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2018, 05:27:41 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on July 11, 2018, 05:16:46 pm
So tell us great sage, would Trump have been elected without the Evangelical vote?  Yes or No?? No song and dance.

The "Taliban", hmmn.

Maybe the enlightened pro-choicers, secular humanists are truly like Nazis as seeing someone less than human.  :amen:

Where else was the Evangelical vote go?   Are you suggesting 100% of them are one issue voters?

It was Trump vs. Hillary.  Binary choice.

Just because we recognize the futility of successfully making the culture do a 180 on abortion rights...doesn't mean we don't agree there is the death of a human life involved here.

Park your virtue signaling at the door of the thread, please.

I would like to partake in a practical, pragmatic discussion of the issue.
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2018, 05:30:53 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on July 11, 2018, 05:27:41 pm
Where else was the Evangelical vote go?   Are you suggesting 100% of them are one issue voters?

It was Trump vs. Hillary.  Binary choice.

Just because we recognize the futility of successfully making the culture do a 180 on abortion rights...doesn't mean we don't agree there is the death of a human life involved here.

Park your virtue signaling at the door of the thread, please.

I would like to partake in a practical, pragmatic discussion of the issue.

So why wasn't Romney elected? Evangelicals say because Evangelicals did not support Romney.

You don't want to confront that Trump would not have been elected without the Evangelical vote. If one doesn't know that, one doesn't know the news. You are the one who is impractical and non-pragmatic.

Franklin Graham

Robert Jeffers

John Hagee

James Dobson,

All prominent Evangelicals, you had this with no other president in modern history, total BS evasion of facts.
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2018, 05:33:27 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on July 11, 2018, 05:24:15 pm
Why stop at pre-birth, how about laws that parents can do away with their offspring for the first 18 years of their life??

Why not?
Murder can be a "very" late term abortion.
The argument gets pretty silly.

Make the "morning after" pill available over-the-counter.

Pretty simple way to stop abortion.
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2018, 05:35:42 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on July 11, 2018, 05:26:46 pm
John Adams is a founding father and said our Constitution is for a Moral and Religious people. Get over it.

Yes, a Moral and Religious people that denied women the right to vote and treated them largely as chattel of their spouses.   

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You just push secular humanism, a belief system in itself.

Bullshit.

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You have no backup for anything you say and Scalia and Dershowitz dispel your radical leftwing interpretation of the Constitution.

The Constitution as the protector of the natural rights of man against the State is hardly a radical interpretation.  But those protections now extend to women as well.   Sorry you can't accept that.   
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Re: Tomi Lahren: Conservatives Who Go After Roe “Might as Well Spit on the Constitution”
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2018, 05:36:18 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on July 11, 2018, 05:15:22 pm
It's because it's an alternative POV.

Foreign concept to you?

It is to you when it comes to Trump.  You have ZERO tolerance by your own admission.
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