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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2018, 05:42:40 pm »
"Democrats are the problem. They don’t care about crime and want illegal immigrants, no matter how bad they may be, to pour into and infest our Country, like MS-13. They can’t win on their terrible policies, so they view them as potential voters!"

Pres. Trump should get a standing ovation. He doesn't back down and calls out the Rats for their hidden agenda. I am so sick and tired at the moderate Pubs running for cover and criticizing Pres. Trump at the first sign of trouble. Pres. Trump is spot on wjen we talk about immigration. He's also right when he says we do need immigration, but we need to know who it is coming into our country and that these should be people who can help the country, not just drive down wages.
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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2018, 05:44:29 pm »
He shouldn't have used the work 'infest' as that will cause so many heads to explode.  But the message is otherwise accurate and appropriate.

I think it's intentional. The Rats and media will go ballistic and in expressing their extreme views more people will be turned off by them.
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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2018, 05:45:28 pm »
Yup.  No bill will pass.   The Dems will take to Trump's words like catnip.  And the GOP majority will, I fear, be lost this fall. 

Traditional Republicans have made a very uncomfortable deal with this President.    They support the President because he sees things their way with respect to taxes, deregulation and the appointment of conservative judges.   But they've had to lie down with the alt-right on the issue of immigration, and surrender their principles when it comes to free trade.   
 

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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2018, 05:48:31 pm »
How is that racist?  Are you Jesse Jackson or belong to CAIR where everything is twisted to be racist?

Someone breaking our laws is to be despised, and anyone who says otherwise is also to be despised.  Infestation is a modest word to use.

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Amazing how @Jazzhead is all about following the law when it comes to massive intrusive gun control but is fine with breaking the law when its unknown people coming through our border.
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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2018, 05:48:59 pm »
Yup.  No bill will pass.   The Dems will take to Trump's words like catnip.  And the GOP majority will, I fear, be lost this fall.   

You are paralyzed by fear.  Log off for a while and calm yourself down.

The President just gave a speech in DC .... and I lost track of the standing ovations.


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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2018, 05:49:12 pm »
I think it's intentional. The Rats and media will go ballistic and in expressing their extreme views more people will be turned off by them.

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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2018, 05:50:55 pm »
There will be liberals who will swallow the hysterical propaganda about little kids living in cages away from their parents and will vote Dem.  But they would have voted Dem anyway.  Doesn't really have much to do with Trump or anything he says about this matter.

Great point!

Controlling immigration helps contribute to rising wages. We should all want to see our fellow citizens do better and those that only want the benefit of a cheap labor source regardless of what it does to the country and those directly affected by it are pretty poor excuses for citizens.
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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2018, 05:51:19 pm »
I think it's intentional. The Rats and media will go ballistic and in expressing their extreme views more people will be turned off by them.

I just reread your post and I think you're on to something ....  ^-^

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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2018, 05:52:19 pm »
"...illegal immigrants, no matter how bad they may be...like MS-13.


There ya go.


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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2018, 05:53:13 pm »
The media has turned off all they're going to turn off...from here on the President and his team gain support.

Many republicans in Congress are soon going to have to decide who they want to represent, those who actually elect them or those who provide them lots of campaign cash!
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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #35 on: June 19, 2018, 05:53:17 pm »
Respectfully, Mr. President, STFU.

This is where you and I part ways, @Jazzhead  **nononono*
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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2018, 05:55:51 pm »
No, Trump is creating those Dem votes all by himself with his dehumanizing, racist rhetoric.

@Jazzhead

But latinos already were voting overwhelming for Democrats long before Trump ran for office.  So he didn't create those votes -- they were already voting that way.   In fact, one of the unexpected storylines out of this last Presidential election was that Trump did better among Latinos than did Romney.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-election-day/trump-did-better-blacks-hispanics-romney-12-exit-polls-n681386

So it seems pretty plausible that a lot of Latino voters -- all citizens (at least theoretically...) -- don't equate taking a hardline against illegal immigration with being anti-Latino or racist.
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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2018, 05:57:04 pm »
Traditional Republicans are Losers.

Better than having to defend the flippin' alt-right and their racist priorities. 

Illegal immigrants aren't vermin.   Most come here to work, and work harder than the lazy Americans who, despite the booming economy, won't come off the sidelines and rejoin the labor force. 

I'm not suggesting the laws should not be enforced.  Illegals are just that, and they must be dealt with appropriately under the law.   But that is no reason to dehumanize them, or suggest they come here to sponge off American taxpayers.

Crossing the border illegally in search of a job is a misdemeanor.   That's it - a simple misdemeanor.   Such folks are not invading hordes, infesting our nation with their evil presence.   They want to work.    And as for those fleeing desparate situations and seeking asylum,  I agree with the First Lady - enforce the law, but not at the expense of our humanity.     
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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2018, 05:57:20 pm »
You are paralyzed by fear.  Log off for a while and calm yourself down.

The President just gave a speech in DC .... and I lost track of the standing ovations.

He deserved everyone of them!

It should be noted he talked in front of a small business association. We are directly affected by rising wages, but don't mind the trade off if all Americans are benefiting and real immigration reform/controls can be enacted.
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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2018, 05:57:56 pm »
It stands to reason that the people that are the most against Illegal Immigration, would be the Legal Immigrants, who played by the rules.

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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2018, 05:58:26 pm »
I think it's intentional. The Rats and media will go ballistic and in expressing their extreme views more people will be turned off by them.

I think you're right.  He is tricking the leftist media (they're not awfully bright)... into reporting on the situation via their constant outrage, offended status, and inability to pass up an opportunity to bash Trump publicly for something he said.  He is USING them against themselves. 
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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2018, 05:59:37 pm »
Better than having to defend the flippin' alt-right and their racist priorities. 

Illegal immigrants aren't vermin.   Most come here to work, and work harder than the lazy Americans who, despite the booming economy, won't come off the sidelines and rejoin the labor force. 

I'm not suggesting the laws should not be enforced.  Illegals are just that, and they must be dealt with appropriately under the law.   But that is no reason to dehumanize them, or suggest they come here to sponge off American taxpayers.

Crossing the border illegally in search of a job is a misdemeanor.   That's it - a simple misdemeanor.   Such folks are not invading hordes, infesting our nation with their evil presence.   They want to work.    And as for those fleeing desparate situations and seeking asylum,  I agree with the First Lady - enforce the law, but not at the expense of our humanity.   

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So its racist to call illegals 'vermin'

But not racist to call americans lazy.

Liberal logic is CRAZZZEEEEEEEE
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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2018, 06:04:41 pm »
So let me get this straight.
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The one who is calling the President racist for doing whatever he legally can to stop illegal entry is the same one who wants all people to register their legally purchased firearms, when no crime has been committed.

Think about that.


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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2018, 06:06:02 pm »
Better than having to defend the flippin' alt-right and their racist priorities. 

Illegal immigrants aren't vermin.   Most come here to work, and work harder than the lazy Americans who, despite the booming economy, won't come off the sidelines and rejoin the labor force. 

I'm not suggesting the laws should not be enforced.  Illegals are just that, and they must be dealt with appropriately under the law.   But that is no reason to dehumanize them, or suggest they come here to sponge off American taxpayers.

Crossing the border illegally in search of a job is a misdemeanor.   That's it - a simple misdemeanor.   Such folks are not invading hordes, infesting our nation with their evil presence.   They want to work.    And as for those fleeing desparate situations and seeking asylum,  I agree with the First Lady - enforce the law, but not at the expense of our humanity.   

Calling Americans lazy is a racist statement.

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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2018, 06:10:08 pm »
Better than having to defend the flippin' alt-right and their racist priorities. 

You still have yet to point out specifically what Trump has said that's racist or alt-right.

Not that I really expect you to.

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Illegal immigrants aren't vermin.   Most come here to work, and work harder than the lazy Americans who, despite the booming economy, won't come off the sidelines and rejoin the labor force.


Wanna bet?

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• Turning to households headed by immigrants in the country illegally, we estimate that 62 percent used one or more welfare programs in 2012, compared to 30 percent of native households.

• Households headed by immigrants illegally in the country have higher use rates than native households overall and for food programs (57 percent vs. 22 percent) and Medicaid (51 percent vs. 23 percent). Use of cash programs by illegal immigrants is lower than use by natives (5 percent vs. 10 percent), as is use of housing programs (4 percent vs. 6 percent).

• There is a child present in 86 percent of illegal immigrant households using welfare, and this is the primary way that these households access programs.       

• Of illegal immigrant households with children, 87 percent access one or more welfare programs compared to 52 percent of native households.

 

https://cis.org/sites/default/files/camarota-welfare-illegals_1.pdf

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I'm not suggesting the laws should not be enforced.

And yet here you are finger wagging people for wanting the laws enforced...telling us we should turn a blind eye because "it's only a misdemeanor". 


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Illegals are just that, and they must be dealt with appropriately under the law.
   

And the law says you're arrested and deported if you're found to be in this country illegally.

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But that is no reason to dehumanize them, or suggest they come here to sponge off American taxpayers.


Yet the facts show that sponging is exactly what they do.  And the Federal Government and sympathetic no borders groups run ads all the time in Mexico and other Latin American countries showing people who sneak across the border how to apply for welfare before they even arrive in the U.S.
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Crossing the border illegally in search of a job is a misdemeanor.   That's it - a simple misdemeanor.
   

It's still breaking the law.  And I do believe just a few sentences ago you said:

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I'm not suggesting the laws should not be enforced

So which is it...enforce the law or look the other way?  Usually you wait a couple posts to have it both ways on an issue...half a paragraph is a record for you.

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Such folks are not invading hordes, infesting our nation with their evil presence

Right that's why the majority of those we're catching coming into the country are MS13...drug runners and human traffickers.


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They want to work.
   

No they don't.  The facts state otherwise.



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And as for those fleeing desparate situations and seeking asylum,  I agree with the First Lady - enforce the law, but not at the expense of our humanity.
   

Amazing how she had 8 years of her husband enforcing a policy signed by Bill Clinton and she stayed silent.

Same for 8 years of the Obama administration enforcing the same policy...crickets.

Just because you're poor isn't a reason to seek asylum.  Because your husband beats you...isn't a reason for asylum.

The U.N. resolution from 1951 dealing with asylum and refugees says that refugees can't forum shop as is the case right now.  They are supposed to file for asylum in the first country they come to not directly involved in the conflict forcing them to flee.  They can't bounce from country to country to country until they get to the U.S. and can apply for all of our welfare benefits.

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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #45 on: June 19, 2018, 06:13:34 pm »
Calling Americans lazy is a racist statement.

So then you agree that calling illegal immigrants "vermin" and "no matter how bad they may be . . . just like MS-13" is racist as well? 

One thing's for sure - illegals aren't lazy.   What draws them here is American employers who value their productivity.   

 
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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #46 on: June 19, 2018, 06:16:47 pm »
So then you agree that calling illegal immigrants "vermin" and "no matter how bad they may be . . . just like MS-13" is racist as well? 

One thing's for sure - illegals aren't lazy.   What draws them here is American employers who value their productivity.

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I dont have an issue calling murderers and rapists vermin.

If that is where you set your bar then I suggest you rethink your position.
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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2018, 06:20:08 pm »
So then you agree that calling illegal immigrants "vermin" and "no matter how bad they may be . . . just like MS-13" is racist as well? 

One thing's for sure - illegals aren't lazy.   What draws them here is American employers who value their productivity.

Because Democrats administered the narcotic of welfare on able-bodied Americans making work a dirty word.

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« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2018, 06:22:54 pm »
So then you agree that calling illegal immigrants "vermin" and "no matter how bad they may be . . . just like MS-13" is racist as well? 

One thing's for sure - illegals aren't lazy.   What draws them here is American employers who value their productivity.

Nonsense.

He didn't say "just like" MS-13, he said "like" MS-13, there is a difference, but you really don't care, anyway.

Just who is the real racist here?

The one who says" illegals aren't lazy, that's for sure", but "who work harder than the lazy Americas".

I know who gets my vote.
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Re: Trump: Dems want illegal immigrants to 'infest our country'
« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2018, 06:26:30 pm »
One thing's for sure - illegals aren't lazy.   What draws them here is American employers who value their productivity.

Think about this for a minute...it's a classic example of your double speak.

You claim that:

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I'm not suggesting the laws should not be enforced

Yet here you are applauding and defending employers that hire illegals because they "value their productivity."

But the mere act of an employer hiring an illegal breaks several federal, state and local laws in and of itself. 

How do you square that with your statement that you aren't advocating for laws not being enforced?
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