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Nazi Atrocity
« on: June 15, 2018, 01:45:37 am »
I can't believe there are pigs out there who would deny the Holocaust happened.

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There are people out there that will deny the sun comes up in the morning,but will believe you if you tell them it's a huge conspiracy involving really,really big flashlights.

One of my mother's cousins married a very nice Jewish lady from Berlin right after WW-2,and she had the tattoo on her arm. She was the ONLY surviving member of her family when the war ended. Anyone tries to tell me to my face that it never  happened is going to see violent disagreement.

What *I* hate about it is that it is now a JEWISH thing,and nobody else is mentioned or considered to be Holocaust victims. The Nazi's murdered a higher percentage of the European Gypsy population than the Jewish population,and there can be no question they murdered more Slavs than any other group.

BTW,they murdered the hell out of a hell of a lot of Germans,also. From petty criminals to children born with birth defects,and the elderly.

Yet all we hear about is the Jews.

Gentiles need a better PR firm.
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Re: Nazi Atrocity
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2018, 01:47:48 am »
@dfwgator

 

BTW,they murdered the hell out of a hell of a lot of Germans,also. From petty criminals to children born with birth defects,and the elderly.

 

And they were competing with the Soviets in the Murdering Poles Department.

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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2018, 01:58:02 am »
And they were competing with the Soviets in the Murdering Poles Department.

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They even formed a partnership to murder Poles. Want to see a leftist head explode? Remind them that Hitler and Stalin were allies and goomba's,right up to the instant that Hitler and his National SOCIALIST Party (NAZI) invaded "Holy Mother Russia". Suddenly,the National Socialist allies of over a decade became "evil right-wingers",and it happened overnight.
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Re: Nazi Atrocity
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2018, 02:24:13 am »
@dfwgator

There are people out there that will deny the sun comes up in the morning,but will believe you if you tell them it's a huge conspiracy involving really,really big flashlights.

One of my mother's cousins married a very nice Jewish lady from Berlin right after WW-2,and she had the tattoo on her arm. She was the ONLY surviving member of her family when the war ended. Anyone tries to tell me to my face that it never  happened is going to see violent disagreement.

What *I* hate about it is that it is now a JEWISH thing,and nobody else is mentioned or considered to be Holocaust victims. The Nazi's murdered a higher percentage of the European Gypsy population than the Jewish population,and there can be no question they murdered more Slavs than any other group.

BTW,they murdered the hell out of a hell of a lot of Germans,also. From petty criminals to children born with birth defects,and the elderly.

Yet all we hear about is the Jews.

Gentiles need a better PR firm.
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Re: Nazi Atrocity
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2018, 03:35:39 am »
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What *I* hate about it is that it is now a JEWISH thing,and nobody else is mentioned or considered to be Holocaust victims. The Nazi's murdered a higher percentage of the European Gypsy population than the Jewish population,and there can be no question they murdered more Slavs than any other group.

BTW,they murdered the hell out of a hell of a lot of Germans,also. From petty criminals to children born with birth defects,and the elderly.

Yet all we hear about is the Jews.

Gentiles need a better PR firm.

Forgetting the 'Holocaust'

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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2018, 12:34:41 pm »
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He's right about everthing except the total number. No one knows what it is for sure because millions of the Nazi victims didn't make it to a concentration camp during the push to the East. Gypsies,Slavs,homosexuals,resistance fighters/guerillas,etc,etc,etc were murdered where they were found by the "special SS Units" that followed behind the advancing Nazi Army. No fancy camps for them,or delays filled with hope that they could survive the slave labor until the war ended. Heavy equipment was used to dig deep ditches,and they were just marched to the edge of the ditches and shot down with machine guns. Those who didn't die immediately from gunshot wounds suffocated to death after being buried alive.

It is an insult to humanity AND it lets the Nazi's off too easy to NOT include those people in the list of atrocities committed by the Nazis,while drawing special attention to the brutality suffered by Jews. Jews may think that Jews are special and "Gods Chosen People",but the rest  of the world doesn't see them that way,and there is no reason for the history books seeing them that way because it diminishes the value of the other humans who also lost their lives due to Nazi atrocities.
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2018, 12:54:35 pm »
The Jews were the only group they tried to completely eradicate. Gypsies are a hazy group that are not always easily defined. But the Nazis sought to identify and then destroy the Jews as a people. I think they only sent German handicapped to the camps in an attempt to purify the Aryan race but they swept Europe of the Jews. There were homosexuals in the upper ranks of the Nazi party and some in leadership at the camps.
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Re: Nazi Atrocity
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2018, 02:35:48 pm »
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The Jews were the only group they tried to completely eradicate.


BullBarrack!

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Gypsies are a hazy group that are not always easily defined.


And Jews are? Ever seen Goldie Hawn?

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But the Nazis sought to identify and then destroy the Jews as a people.

SO FREAKING WHAT? They tried the same with the Gypsies,and had plans to eventually eradicate the Slavs. There is NOTHING special about the Jews,despite the Jewish PR wagon ringing it's bell incessantly and screaming "We are Jews,and WE ARE SPECIAL,DAMMIT!"

Not that I blame them for doing this. Smart people always seek advantages for themselves. I blame the rest of us for allowing them to get away with it unquestioned.

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I think they only sent German handicapped to the camps in an attempt to purify the Aryan race but they swept Europe of the Jews.


And you think wrong. Or partly wrong. Eliminating the physically and mentally defective from the German population was a part of the same plan to eliminating Jews from the German population. Prior to the outbreak of WW-2,the Nazi's were more than happy to steal all the assets they could steal from German Jews,and then ship them out of Germany out of Hamberg on a ocean liner to any relatives those Jews had living in other countries that were willing to pay for their "ransom fees".  They only started sending them to labor camps after WW-2 began,and German shipping was shut down.

And of course eliminating the lame,the disturbed,and the crippled from captive populations was so obvious it shouldn't even need to be mentioned,and the plan was to occupy and control ALL of Europe. Which means the handicapped of all of Europe were to be herded into gas chambers eventually.

BTW,the ones that were ransomed by Jewish relatives in the US were shipped to Cuba first,and then the US Embassy in Cuba handled the paperwork to have them enter the US as Cuban residents. Then,for reasons no one to this date understands,the Germany-Cuba-US pipeline was shut down overnight with no explanations,and a whole shipload of German Jews sitting in the harbor in Cuba were shipped back to Hamburg and then on to labor camps. A surprising number (to me,anyhow) survived the war and immigrated to Israel. I read the book written b a couple of the survivors,and it was very interesting. The ocean liner used to transport them was tied up at the dock in Hamburg for the remainder of the war,and was bombed during the Allied bombing of the city.

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There were homosexuals in the upper ranks of the Nazi party and some in leadership at the camps.

Yes,there were,but a lot of them were rounded up and executed by the Gestapo as the war started. Seems there were a lot of homosexuals in the German Bund when Hitler first began his drive for political domination of Germany,and it also seems to me that part of his success was based on Brown Shirt homo's getting blackmail on prominent German bankers and politicians. Of course,once they were no longer useful,they were eliminated.

This seems to be something neither the homosexuals nor the Nazi's want to talk about,so it gives me great joy to mention it.

BUT....,let's be VERY clear about the ultimate Nazi ethnic goals,which were to eliminate ANYONE from the German population who wasn't ethnic German Caucasian,and anyone who had any physical or mental disabilities. Providing they weren't senior Nazi officials,of course. Every single one of THOSE bastards had mental disabilities.
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Re: Nazi Atrocity
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2018, 02:40:55 pm »
I don't think this discussion is appropriate on the Obit thread.
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2018, 02:53:33 pm »
I don't think this discussion is appropriate on the Obit thread.

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Me,either. Do you think you could move it to a "Nazi Atrocity" (or similar) thread? Any name will do as long as it doesn't have Holocaust in the title.
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Re: Nazi Atrocity
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2018, 02:01:33 pm »
It's important to remember the Jews, as they were the largest single group, but let's not do that at the expense of remembering all of the other victims.  Too often, people think the number was 6 million.
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Re: Nazi Atrocity
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2018, 02:47:40 pm »
It's important to remember the Jews, as they were the largest single group, but let's not do that at the expense of remembering all of the other victims.  Too often, people think the number was 6 million.

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No,the Jews were NOT the largest single group that was persecuted by the Nazi's. They just had the best PR team. More Slavs were murdered by the Nazi's than anyone else,and when it came to the largest percentage of a single group,it was the Gypsies that suffered the most.

What the Jews had that no one else had were Jewish newspaper and broadcast editors,movie directors,lawyers,etc,etc,etc living outside of Europe that had and have influence and access to the press and to politicians. Lithuanians,Poles,non-Nazi Germans,not so much.
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Re: Nazi Atrocity
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2018, 03:11:04 pm »
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No,the Jews were NOT the largest single group that was persecuted by the Nazi's. They just had the best PR team. More Slavs were murdered by the Nazi's than anyone else,and when it came to the largest percentage of a single group,it was the Gypsies that suffered the most.

What the Jews had that no one else had were Jewish newspaper and broadcast editors,movie directors,lawyers,etc,etc,etc living outside of Europe that had and have influence and access to the press and to politicians. Lithuanians,Poles,non-Nazi Germans,not so much.

Many Slavs were recruined to fight in the German Wehrmacht uniform (Heer only? I don't know) against us.  Rare was the Jew afforded such a salvation.

I'm not at all diminishing the atrocity against others.
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Re: Nazi Atrocity
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2018, 03:23:38 pm »
  Rare was the Jew afforded such a salvation.
 

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I am sure there must have been others,but the only name of a Jew that worked with the Nazi's that comes to mind is George Soros,who worked as a paid informer. He would use his status as a Jew to get other Jews to trust him,and then tell the Nazi's where Jews were hiding to collect the reward money.

Is it a coincidence that Soros basically owns the Dim Party these days?

I think not.
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2018, 02:02:31 am »
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I am sure there must have been others,but the only name of a Jew that worked with the Nazi's that comes to mind is George Soros,who worked as a paid informer. He would use his status as a Jew to get other Jews to trust him,and then tell the Nazi's where Jews were hiding to collect the reward money.

Is it a coincidence that Soros basically owns the Dim Party these days?

I think not.

I despise Soros, but in the interest of accuracy, his work with the NAZIs was minimal and no more than a lot of occupied people did were forced to do. 
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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2018, 04:09:50 am »
I despise Soros, but in the interest of accuracy, his work with the NAZIs was minimal and no more than a lot of occupied people did were forced to do.
Except Soros wasn't forced to do a damn thing. My grandparents, parents and other family were in Hungary during the war, Soros deserves no leeway whatsoever!

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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2018, 05:41:10 am »
I despise Soros, but in the interest of accuracy, his work with the NAZIs was minimal and no more than a lot of occupied people did were forced to do.

That's bullshit.... and if you don't know it, you really should, by now.  No excuse.  Soros has never stated that he was forced to do anything.  He did state that he doesn't regret what he did.  Excusing an evil man with innocent blood on his hands is rather sad, IMO.   I'm a little surprised at your defense of him, in fact.
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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2018, 05:43:06 am »
I despise Soros, but in the interest of accuracy, his work with the NAZIs was minimal and no more than a lot of occupied people did were forced to do.

Tell that to families of the Jews of the Warsaw Ghetto who decided to sacrifice their lives and fight back.

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« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2018, 05:44:58 am »
I despise Soros, but in the interest of accuracy, his work with the NAZIs was minimal and no more than a lot of occupied people did were forced to do.

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Ach,well! So Soros was only personally responsible for the murders of just a handful of Jews. No big deal,right? That's practically a illegal parking violation! </S>

Soros wasn't forced to do anything,dummy! He did it to save his own ass,and he did it for the money.
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« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2018, 05:44:59 am »
Many Slavs were recruined to fight in the German Wehrmacht uniform (Heer only? I don't know) against us.  Rare was the Jew afforded such a salvation.

 

None of those Slavs were Poles.   There were strict orders not to allow Poles, even those who were anti-semitic, from serving the Nazis, because the Nazis feared the Poles would immediately turn their guns on the Germans.

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« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2018, 05:46:00 am »
Except Soros wasn't forced to do a damn thing. My grandparents, parents and other family were in Hungary during the war, Soros deserves no leeway whatsoever!

@GtHawk  :amen:

The bastard should have been brought up for war crimes after the war.
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« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2018, 05:54:44 am »
@GtHawk  :amen:

The bastard should have been brought up for war crimes after the war.
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« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2018, 12:46:41 pm »
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My grandmother used to have my mother and aunt take milk to the Jewish children on the neighboring farm, until German soldiers threatened to kill them if they were caught doing it again. My mother said they thought the German soldiers were the worst.................until the Russians came in. And I'm talking about WWII not after when they took over.

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Not the first time I have heard of people who suffered under the Nazi's in WW-2 said they came to look on the Nazi occupation as "the Good Old Days" after the Soviets moved in.
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« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2018, 01:05:44 pm »
Sorry, guys, the facts are against you on this one.  Soros (actually Schwartz) was 14 when the war ended.  He apparently did deliver messages to people who were selected for deportation, but it looks like he was working for the Jewish council, whose members were trying to save as many as they could by selecting who to send*.  Either way, the fact that he was 11-14 during that time makes it difficult to blame him for what happened.  The evil man that he became occurred after that. 

We sound silly and hysterical (like Roseanne) when we try to blame a boy for "collaborating with the Nazis".  There's plenty of real, verifiable things to blame Soros for.

* Sounds a little shaky to me, but then I've never been put in that kind of devil's bargain situation.
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« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2018, 01:28:47 pm »
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Sorry, guys, the facts are against you on this one.  Soros (actually Schwartz) was 14 when the war ended.


So what? There were thousands of 14 year old boys AND girls fighting with the resistance back then.

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He apparently did deliver messages to people who were selected for deportation,

HorseHillary! He informed on hidden Jews to the Nazi's in exchange for cash.

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but it looks like he was working for the Jewish council, whose members were trying to save as many as they could by selecting who to send*.


Yeah,that's where he got the info on the locations of hidden Jews to sell to the Nazi's.

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Either way, the fact that he was 11-14 during that time makes it difficult to blame him for what happened.  The evil man that he became occurred after that. 

What color is the sky on your home planet? He CLEARLY knew what he was doing and he clearly knew who was paying him.

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We sound silly and hysterical (like Roseanne) when we try to blame a boy for "collaborating with the Nazis".  There's plenty of real, verifiable things to blame Soros for.

Yah,Pish,why worry about a silly little thing like informing on your fellow Jews to the Nazi's so they get hauled off to the death or labor camps?


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