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Re: USA & No Korea Summit LIVE THREAD
« Reply #525 on: June 13, 2018, 10:49:13 am »
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Well, I see that Kim has been invited to Washington.  My husband won't dismiss the possibility that Trump's advisors are telling him to pile on and show Kim some more capitalist delights.  Like you said, he's young, still.  Perpetuating his father's hard line might not be so easy now that he's had a taste.  We can hope, anyway.

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Re: USA & No Korea Summit LIVE THREAD
« Reply #526 on: June 13, 2018, 11:03:49 am »
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Just landed - a long trip, but everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea. Meeting with Kim Jong Un was an interesting and very positive experience. North Korea has great potential for the future!

4:56 AM - Jun 13, 2018


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-claims-end-to-nuclear-threat-from-n-korea-tells-u-s-to-sleep-well/



OK, then.
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Re: USA & No Korea Summit LIVE THREAD
« Reply #527 on: June 13, 2018, 11:04:29 am »
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Just landed - a long trip, but everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea. Meeting with Kim Jong Un was an interesting and very positive experience. North Korea has great potential for the future!




OK, then.

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Re: USA & No Korea Summit LIVE THREAD
« Reply #528 on: June 13, 2018, 12:13:00 pm »
Donald J. Trump
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Just landed - a long trip, but everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea. Meeting with Kim Jong Un was an interesting and very positive experience. North Korea has great potential for the future!

4:56 AM - Jun 13, 2018


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-claims-end-to-nuclear-threat-from-n-korea-tells-u-s-to-sleep-well/



OK, then.

This stupid shit is why I'm such a niggler.  Why not just go all in and start urging people to vacay in NK.

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Re: USA & No Korea Summit LIVE THREAD
« Reply #529 on: June 13, 2018, 12:19:47 pm »
Donald J. Trump
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Just landed - a long trip, but everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. [b]There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea. [/b]Meeting with Kim Jong Un was an interesting and very positive experience. North Korea has great potential for the future!

4:56 AM - Jun 13, 2018


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-claims-end-to-nuclear-threat-from-n-korea-tells-u-s-to-sleep-well/



OK, then.

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Re: USA & No Korea Summit LIVE THREAD
« Reply #530 on: June 13, 2018, 12:51:14 pm »
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Just landed - a long trip, but everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea. Meeting with Kim Jong Un was an interesting and very positive experience. North Korea has great potential for the future!

4:56 AM - Jun 13, 2018



It will be completely unsurprising when this becomes Trump's "Read My Lips" moment once Lil' Kim and the Commies prove what a gullible pushover Trump is.
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Re: USA & No Korea Summit LIVE THREAD
« Reply #531 on: June 13, 2018, 12:55:37 pm »
This stupid shit is why I'm such a niggler.  Why not just go all in and start urging people to vacay in NK.

WOW talk about stupid shit.  Comparing a press release trying to ease peoples fears of nuclear war and celebrate a successful meeting to encouraging people to go to NK for vacation.


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Re: USA & No Korea Summit LIVE THREAD
« Reply #532 on: June 13, 2018, 12:59:06 pm »
It will be completely unsurprising when this becomes Trump's "Read My Lips" moment once Lil' Kim and the Commies prove what a gullible pushover Trump is.

I've heard that he single handedly cancelled US-SK Joint Readiness exercises.  Blindsided Pentagon and S. Korean Military   Kim's already duped Donnie.
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Re: USA & No Korea Summit LIVE THREAD
« Reply #533 on: June 13, 2018, 01:03:56 pm »
I've heard that he single handedly cancelled US-SK Joint Readiness exercises.  Blindsided Pentagon and S. Korean Military   Kim's already duped Donnie.

I've already read the ForeverTrumps® explain those concerns away already.

It's not about the substance.

It's about the emotions of the moment and assuaging everyone's concerns and fears.

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Re: USA & No Korea Summit LIVE THREAD
« Reply #534 on: June 13, 2018, 01:06:56 pm »
I've already read the ForeverTrumps® explain those concerns away already.

It's not about the substance.

It's about the emotions of the moment and assuaging everyone's concerns and fears.

The sea levels have fallen.

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Gee and I thought the military reported to him, so yeah he can cancel these exercises if he wants.   I don't think he should have but all these claims you're making are ridiculous.
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Re: USA & No Korea Summit LIVE THREAD
« Reply #535 on: June 13, 2018, 01:20:00 pm »
Donald J. Trump
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Just landed - a long trip, but everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea. Meeting with Kim Jong Un was an interesting and very positive experience. North Korea has great potential for the future!

4:56 AM - Jun 13, 2018


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-claims-end-to-nuclear-threat-from-n-korea-tells-u-s-to-sleep-well/



OK, then.

That may be less a statement about any agreement reached, and more an acknowledgement about their program going off the rails when that mountain fractured.  There have been reports that not only was that site badly damaged, but that NK lost its best 200 nuclear scientists/engineers.  I imagine Trump has gotten more accurate intel on that than we have.  So if that is true, that could explain both his statement and why NK may be giving up those ambitions anyway.
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Re: USA & No Korea Summit LIVE THREAD
« Reply #536 on: June 13, 2018, 01:22:40 pm »
That may be less a statement about any agreement reached, and more an acknowledgement about their program going off the rails when that mountain fractured.

Possibly included is the loss of a major portion of their scientific staff who were inside that mountain when it fractured.
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Re: USA & No Korea Summit LIVE THREAD
« Reply #537 on: June 13, 2018, 01:24:18 pm »
WOW talk about stupid shit.  Comparing a press release trying to ease peoples fears of nuclear war and celebrate a successful meeting to encouraging people to go to NK for vacation.




There's a difference between saying something to ease fears and making a demonstrably false statement.
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Re: USA & No Korea Summit LIVE THREAD
« Reply #538 on: June 13, 2018, 01:24:37 pm »
Possibly included is the loss of a major portion of their scientific staff who were inside that mountain when it fractured.

Not to mention the loss of Iranian scientists.
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« Reply #539 on: June 13, 2018, 01:25:25 pm »
Possibly included is the loss of a major portion of their scientific staff who were inside that mountain when it fractured.

We can only hope.
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« Reply #540 on: June 13, 2018, 01:26:19 pm »
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Gee and I thought the military reported to him, so yeah he can cancel these exercises if he wants.   I don't think he should have but all these claims you're making are ridiculous.

There is a proper protocol for doing this and you know it.  Especially when it comes to exercises on your allies turf. They shouldn't find out about it when the news reports on it.
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Re: USA & No Korea Summit LIVE THREAD
« Reply #541 on: June 13, 2018, 01:27:03 pm »
There's a difference between saying something to ease fears and making a demonstrably false statement.

It's like "Today there are no longer any Nuclear weapons pointed at our children."  Another demonstrably false statement, only the Dems ate it up because Clinton said it.
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Re: USA & No Korea Summit LIVE THREAD
« Reply #542 on: June 13, 2018, 01:27:27 pm »
We can only hope.

No hope involved, SK news reported there was a significant loss of life when it happened.  Much of it the team working on the nuke.   Not the entire staff but quite a number.
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« Reply #543 on: June 13, 2018, 01:29:16 pm »
There is a proper protocol for doing this and you know it.  Especially when it comes to exercises on your allies turf. They shouldn't find out about it when the news reports on it.

Yeah Trump is known for following protocol.  /s

For years people have bitched about ineffective politicians and diplomats, along comes a guy who ignores those conventions but get things done.  Then you cry about his methods.

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« Reply #544 on: June 13, 2018, 01:31:31 pm »
It's like "Today there are no longer any Nuclear weapons pointed at our children."  Another demonstrably false statement, only the Dems ate it up because Clinton said it.

Precisely.  As unpredictable as the Norks are Kim could get a bug up his ass and decide to fire missiles today.  Until he can't push a button and launch even one nuclear missile...there is a nuclear threat from North Korea.
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Re: USA & No Korea Summit LIVE THREAD
« Reply #545 on: June 13, 2018, 01:31:40 pm »
We've been doing multiple military exercises every year for decades in South Korea.  The biggest one of those exercises, Foal Eagle, already took place in April.  Cancelling one of them as a gesture of good faith costs us absolutely nothing.  Now if Trump ended sanctions, or gave economic aid, that would be a much more substantive act.

Also, that's not the kind of decision that is irreversible.  And it actually gives Trump another weapon to use.  If NK drags its feet over the next month or so, he can just announce that they are back on.


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« Reply #546 on: June 13, 2018, 01:35:01 pm »
Yeah Trump is known for following protocol.  /s

For years people have bitched about ineffective politicians and diplomats, along comes a guy who ignores those conventions but get things done.  Then you cry about his methods.

So if you were a 1SG you'd have no problem with a PV2 skipping his entire chain of command to go talk to the Sgt. Major of The Army about a problem before he consults even his team leader?

That's the same kind of breach of protocol and proper notification and even common courtesy that Trump displayed by not consulting with his commanders on the ground in Korea...the Joint Chiefs or even his hand picked "Mad Dog" SecDef before announcing this unilateral withdrawl from the exercises.

Had Obama done this you'd be pissed and talking about everything I'm talking about right now and you know it. 

But because it's Trump.
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« Reply #547 on: June 13, 2018, 01:35:16 pm »
ISIS, worse human rights offenders around.... hmmn, I wonder where people have been when they have been defeated?  Crickets. As usual.  Other like instances can be brought up as well. Oh well, we know we can count on hearing from them, when something is wrong.

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« Reply #548 on: June 13, 2018, 01:36:09 pm »
We've been doing multiple military exercises every year for decades in South Korea.  The biggest one of those exercises, Foal Eagle, already took place in April.  Cancelling one of them as a gesture of good faith costs us absolutely nothing.  Now if Trump ended sanctions, or gave economic aid, that would be a much more substantive act.

Also, that's not the kind of decision that is irreversible.  And it actually gives Trump another weapon to use.  If NK drags its feet over the next month or so, he can just announce that they are back on.

It's gives North Korea a nice big propaganda win and lets Kim go back to Pyongyang crowing about how he got the U.S. to fold on an issue they've resisted for decades.
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« Reply #549 on: June 13, 2018, 01:37:04 pm »
Cancelled exercises may not occur until 2019 and only if North Korea is following de-nuclearization.

Also, that one facility reportedly set off higher levels of radiation, radiation cloud. That's got to be bad for the whole area as well.