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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2018, 10:01:08 pm »
Quote from: thackney on June 07, 2018, 09:23:45 pm
It does work.  And more politicians would gain the will if more voters would make it important to them.

Agree, 100%
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2018, 10:05:08 pm »
Quote from: thackney on June 07, 2018, 09:23:45 pm
It does work.  And more politicians would gain the will if more voters would make it important to them.
Yep, by forcing people to work, less homeless, less welfare, more jobs taken, more govt taxes, etc. etc. etc.
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2018, 10:24:30 pm »
Quote from: Lando Lincoln on June 07, 2018, 03:28:19 pm
I have no doubt we are experiencing a strong employment rebound but you are right...

The details help tell the whole story.

'Whole story' aside, it's only fair and just that the same equation be used to calculate the so-called unemployment rate.

If we had to stomach BS numbers for 8 years of Obama, why can't we turn it back on 'them' (Dems/media)?

You should be celebrating that our side has, in less than 2 years, has smashed all employment records.

Why do you find that necessary to pooh-pooh?



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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2018, 10:33:15 pm »
Quote from: SirLinksALot on June 07, 2018, 03:15:17 pm
OK Folks, what we demand of Obama, we ought to do the same for Trump -- What is the LABOR FORCE PARTICIPATION RATE? did it improve under Trump?

Isn't that the bottom line? Getting people not to sit around but to work?


@SirLinksALot

Is that  you,Terry McAuliffe? Getting into campaign mode for the 2020 presidential race?

Only a weasel Dim could dig hard to find bad in good news. I bet when someone you know has a baby you congratulate the mother,and then tells her "Not that it matters,the child is going to die sooner or later anyway".

If every Muslim in the world were to switch to being Quakers while Trump was president,you would be blaming him for people losing their religion.
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2018, 10:35:57 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on June 07, 2018, 03:38:47 pm
Hater.

Democrat-troll.

Hillary-supporter.

HOW DARE YOU BESMIRCH THE PREZ BY PUTTING HE AND OBAMA IN THE SAME SENTENCE!


They have already told us, it is okay when Trump does and says those things that would have driven them into fits of rage if Obama had done and said the same things.  We cannot hold Trump to the same demands made of Obama, because .... because....

... just because.  He's Trump. 

No,because Obama never did anything positive. But then again,you know that and just don't care.
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2018, 10:38:59 pm »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on June 07, 2018, 09:17:54 pm
Total BS.  Hungry people will work.

@IsailedawayfromFR

If you are talking about Americans,I think most of them would prefer to riot to try to get "their" checks coming in again.
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2018, 10:40:49 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on June 07, 2018, 10:24:30 pm

Why do you find that necessary to pooh-pooh?

I’m not and I don’t.
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2018, 10:41:01 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on June 07, 2018, 09:20:46 pm
Mainstream conservatism has traditionally been in favor of sufficient immigration to keep the economy humming.   The Wall Street Journal (which most sane folks agree is conservative) in an editorial this morning recommended that Trump consider increased (legal) immigration. 

I am more of a conservative than your are on this issue.  You appear to be one of those alt-right nativists.  But know-nothingism is not conservative, it is rooted in xenophobia and even racism.   Those are NOT conservative values.

Oh, that’s just more bullshit out of your statist brain.  I’m all in favor of legal immigration from wherever (BTW, nice red herring on the equally bullshit “racist” barb),  however you’re all in favor of letting anything with a pulse in, no matter how they get here...as long as it gets more of your idiot liberal ideas pushed through.
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2018, 11:07:57 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on June 07, 2018, 09:20:46 pm
You appear to be one of those alt-right nativists.  But know-nothingism is not conservative, it is rooted in xenophobia and even racism.   Those are NOT conservative values.

I am more of a conservative than your are on this issue. 

That's funny as hell right there.

Using tried and true LEFTIST talking points on this very issue to insist that you are more Conservative than we are.

That's like Satan trying to convince everyone that he is more righteous than God on the issues.
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2018, 11:08:49 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on June 07, 2018, 10:24:30 pm
'Whole story' aside, it's only fair and just that the same equation be used to calculate the so-called unemployment rate.

If we had to stomach BS numbers for 8 years of Obama, why can't we turn it back on 'them' (Dems/media)?


Riiiiight. What does it matter if it is accurate or true?

What idiocy.
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2018, 11:24:56 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on June 07, 2018, 11:08:49 pm
Riiiiight. What does it matter if it is accurate or true?

What idiocy.

When there is a headline such as this, I hope I am always curious enough to ask questions to know what is behind the numbers. That’s fair, isn’t it?
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2018, 11:27:30 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on June 07, 2018, 11:08:49 pm
Riiiiight. What does it matter if it is accurate or true?

What idiocy.

Don't be anal.

So what if the 'Real' unemployment rate is 8% +/-?   

That same formula gave Obama a rate of 15%
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2018, 11:30:56 pm »
Quote from: Lando Lincoln on June 07, 2018, 11:24:56 pm
When there is a headline such as this, I hope I am always curious enough to ask questions to know what is behind the numbers. That’s fair, isn’t it?

There's lies....damned lies...and then there's statistics.

The point is proportionately speaking we should be praising his policy's and leadership...as if we did for President Reagan.

Instead...because he's not morally fit for one's standards, he can't win for losing.
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #38 on: June 07, 2018, 11:32:48 pm »
Quote from: Lando Lincoln on June 07, 2018, 11:24:56 pm
When there is a headline such as this, I hope I am always curious enough to ask questions to know what is behind the numbers. That’s fair, isn’t it?

Well, obviously bullshit is what's behind the numbers. Regardless of where they come from anymore.
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #39 on: June 07, 2018, 11:33:40 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on June 07, 2018, 11:27:30 pm
Don't be anal.

So what if the 'Real' unemployment rate is 8% +/-?   

That same formula gave Obama a rate of 15%

And turd polish is more important than accurate reporting.
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #40 on: June 07, 2018, 11:54:25 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on June 07, 2018, 11:33:40 pm
And turd polish is more important than accurate reporting.

So...you're the guy who feels better about himself to unilaterally use the "REAL" number...which the DEM/MSM totally ignored?

Cut the crap.  :whistle:
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2018, 12:00:02 am »
Quote from: DCPatriot on June 07, 2018, 11:30:56 pm
The point is proportionately speaking we should be praising his policy's and leadership...as if we did for President Reagan.

I never sang hosannas and worshipped Reagan like you people demand we do Trump.  I voted for Reagan twice, and trash talked him on issues I felt he was wrong about such as his Immigration deal and his absentee oopsie-status on Iran-Contra and yanking us out of Beirut after our marines got slaughtered there without payback.

What you ask for in regards to praising Trump is the same stupid shit the Leftists demanded everyone show Obama.

Not.  Gonna.  Happen.
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2018, 12:00:49 am »
Quote from: DCPatriot on June 07, 2018, 11:54:25 pm
So...you're the guy who feels better about himself to unilaterally use the "REAL" number...which the DEM/MSM totally ignored?

Cut the crap.  :whistle:

Right. So now the REAL number is ignored all over, rendering the purpose of numbering moot, and the 'smashing of record' invalid as well, in all but the turd polishing sense.

Now it doesn't matter what is right or wrong or even accurate. It's all about the turd polish.
And in the mean time, no one knows what employment is actually doing on the ground, and whether actual efforts are producing actual improvements. It's all just  bigger bucket of turd polish than the last guy.
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #43 on: June 08, 2018, 12:04:35 am »
Quote from: roamer_1 on June 08, 2018, 12:00:49 am
Right. So now the REAL number is ignored all over, rendering the purpose of numbering moot, and the 'smashing of record' invalid as well, in all but the turd polishing sense.

The only one ignoring the real numbers are you. Numerous times on these threads U6 numbers are dropped, but the devoted haters don't give a shit and are just around to crank off to an empty room.
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #44 on: June 08, 2018, 12:28:15 am »
Quote from: sneakypete on June 07, 2018, 10:33:15 pm
@SirLinksALot


Only a weasel Dim could dig hard to find bad in good news. I bet when someone you know has a baby you congratulate the mother,and then tells her "Not that it matters,the child is going to die sooner or later anyway".

If every Muslim in the world were to switch to being Quakers while Trump was president,you would be blaming him for people losing their religion.

Only a pure partisan will ignore the fact that the official unemployment rate was ALREADY TRENDING DOWN during Obama's term and posters in this forum were RIGHTLY concerned about labor force participation rates. As I said... THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE regardless of who is President.

Now, if you have good news on that front, please share it with us. I will continue to bring this issue up everytime the official unemployment rate is brought up.
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #45 on: June 08, 2018, 12:29:22 am »
Quote from: SirLinksALot on June 07, 2018, 07:08:29 pm
That has been my question from way back. Why include retired Senior Citizens in the labor force participation count?

The most relevant and important numbers are those who are of WORKING AGE.
So why then did you make a big deal on bringing it up if it means nothing?
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #46 on: June 08, 2018, 12:30:01 am »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on June 08, 2018, 12:04:35 am
The only one ignoring the real numbers are you. Numerous times on these threads U6 numbers are dropped, but the devoted haters don't give a shit and are just around to crank off to an empty room.

Because numbers mean things Frank. Jacking the numbers just to claim 'historic record breaking' puts you in the same room with the putzes that awarded Obummer the Nobel Peace Prize.
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #47 on: June 08, 2018, 12:34:18 am »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on June 08, 2018, 12:29:22 am
So why then did you make a big deal on bringing it up if it means nothing?

Ok, if you have improved numbers for those eligible workers who are not of retirement age, e.g. 18 to 61, I will be happy to read it. I brought the same issue up when Obama was President, and it is but fair to bring it up under Trump or whoever is POTUS.
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2018, 12:39:06 am »
Quote from: sneakypete on June 07, 2018, 10:38:59 pm
@IsailedawayfromFR

If you are talking about Americans,I think most of them would prefer to riot to try to get "their" checks coming in again.
If they riot, are they eating?

If they are, someone is paying for them to eat, and it won't be me if they are off welfare.
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Re: American Economy Just Went Off the Charts; “Never Before in History”
« Reply #49 on: June 08, 2018, 12:41:52 am »
Quote from: roamer_1 on June 08, 2018, 12:30:01 am
Because numbers mean things Frank. Jacking the numbers just to claim 'historic record breaking' puts you in the same room with the putzes that awarded Obummer the Nobel Peace Prize.

Nothing's being "jacked up" -- nothing.  You've got to get out and live the change that's taking place in the private sector.  It's a great time to be a part of it!
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