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BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« on: June 04, 2018, 10:23:23 AM »
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In Masterpiece Cakeshop case, Supreme Court holds that Colorado Civil Rights Commission violated baker's rights under the free exercise clause

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BREAKING: US Supreme Court rules narrowly for Colorado baker who cited religious reasons for denying to make cake for same-sex wedding.

Just breaking..more to follow
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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2018, 10:26:07 AM »
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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2018, 10:26:58 AM »
Ah, @mystery-ak

My phone just started beeping with alerts on this. Going to post, and u beat me to it!
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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2018, 10:29:19 AM »
The justices, in a 7-2 decision, faulted the Colorado Civil Rights Commission’s handling of the claims brought against Jack Phillips, saying it had showed a hostility to religion.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-baker/supreme-court-hands-narrow-win-to-baker-over-gay-couple-dispute-idUSKCN1J01WU
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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2018, 10:29:23 AM »
The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday handed a narow victory to a Christian baker from Colorado who refused for religious reasons to make a wedding cake for a gay couple.

The justices, in a 7-2 decision, faulted the Colorado Civil Rights Commission's handling of the claims brought against Jack Phillips, saying it had showed a hostility to religion.

more here with ruling

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/04/supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-colorado-baker-who-refused-to-make-wedding-cake-for-gay-couple-for-religious-reasons.html
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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2018, 10:30:04 AM »
Great, it is a good thing Trump, not Hillary, is picking the judges.

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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2018, 10:30:24 AM »
The justices, in a 7-2 decision, faulted the Colorado Civil Rights Commission’s handling of the claims brought against Jack Phillips, saying it had showed a hostility to religion.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-baker/supreme-court-hands-narrow-win-to-baker-over-gay-couple-dispute-idUSKCN1J01WU

7-2 is pretty definitive...no wiggle room for anyone to say it was a "partisian" decision.


ETA:  @thackney Just noticed the Reuters link calls a 7-2 decision "narrow"  smh
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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2018, 10:31:22 AM »
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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2018, 10:31:55 AM »
I have no problems with gay marriage, but forcing someone to bake a cake is a huge violation of their freedoms.

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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2018, 10:32:05 AM »
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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2018, 10:32:51 AM »
7-2 is pretty definitive...no wiggle room for anyone to say it was a "partisian" decision.


ETA:  @thackney Just noticed the Reuters link calls a 7-2 decision "narrow"  smh

That's how it is being reported even Fox News repeated it..
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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2018, 10:34:07 AM »
That's how it is being reported even Fox News repeated it..

That's crazy.  I could understand saying it was "narrow" if it was 5-4 or even 6-3. 


But 7-2?  Short of a 9-0 ruling that's pretty definitive.
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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2018, 10:34:19 AM »
You have to get the Fake News added to it.
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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2018, 10:38:46 AM »
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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2018, 10:39:30 AM »
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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2018, 10:39:55 AM »
That's crazy.  I could understand saying it was "narrow" if it was 5-4 or even 6-3. 


But 7-2?  Short of a 9-0 ruling that's pretty definitive.

Thus proving.... that the idiot left can't even "not lie" about that.
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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2018, 10:42:01 AM »
Thank God.

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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2018, 10:43:20 AM »
Excellent news. 

And agreed that 7-2 is hardly "narrow". 
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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2018, 10:44:05 AM »
I wonder if they mean "narrow in scope".
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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2018, 10:45:04 AM »
That's crazy.  I could understand saying it was "narrow" if it was 5-4 or even 6-3. 


But 7-2?  Short of a 9-0 ruling that's pretty definitive.

I think the "narrow" means that the court gave very little instruction/precedent in deciding the case.

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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2018, 10:45:32 AM »
I wonder if they mean "narrow in scope".

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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2018, 10:47:27 AM »
7-2 is pretty definitive...no wiggle room for anyone to say it was a "partisian" decision.


ETA:  @thackney Just noticed the Reuters link calls a 7-2 decision "narrow"  smh

I think "narrow" may apply to the reason for the decision.  Reading the decision makes it clear SCOTUS viewed the Colorado Commission treated Phillips differently than they treated similar cases.  This is the reason they give for overturning the decisions.

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The Commission’s hostility was inconsistent with the
First Amendment’s guarantee that our laws be applied in
a manner that is neutral toward religion. Phillips was
entitled to a neutral decisionmaker who would give full
and fair consideration to his religious objection as he
sought to assert it in all of the circumstances in which this
case was presented, considered, and decided. In this case
the adjudication concerned a context that may well be
different going forward in the respects noted above. However
later cases raising these or similar concerns are
resolved in the future, for these reasons the rulings of the
Commission and of the state court that enforced the
Commission’s order must be invalidated.
The outcome of cases like this in other circumstances
must await further elaboration in the courts, all in the
context of recognizing that these disputes must be resolved
with tolerance, without undue disrespect to sincere
religious beliefs, and without subjecting gay persons to
indignities when they seek goods and services in an open
market.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/17pdf/16-111_j4el.pdf
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Re: BREAKING>> SCOTUS rules in favor of Colorado baker
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2018, 10:47:35 AM »
Excellent.

My guess is this will change the complexion of some of the discussions around here.


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