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ABC Dismounts the Sabertooth
« on: May 30, 2018, 09:06:56 pm »
With friends like unhinged Roseanne Barr, Donald Trump and his most recalcitrant acolytes need no enemies
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Writing in his 1999 memoir/state-of-the-sport analysis, You're Missin' a Great Game, baseball Hall of Fame manager Whitey Herzog harked back to one of his St. Louis Cardinals pitchers, Joaquin Andujar. Best described as a human time bomb, and may his soul rest in peace (he died three years ago), Andujar was a high-wire act as a Cardinal, right up to the night he got tossed out of that disastrous (for the Cardinals) seventh game of the 1985 World Series and suspended subsequently for a portion of the following season's opening. Herzog and the Cardinals alike may have been relieved to survive.

"Well, when you've got to ride the tiger in life, stay on his back as long as you can. If you asked me to rate my managing," Herzog wrote, "I might say, 'Hell, I rode a sabertooth for five years, got a lot of miles out of him, and never ended up inside until the end. I must have done something right'."

ABC elected to ride a sabertooth named Roseanne Barr, and the ride lasted about four years less than Herzog riding Andujar. Within hours of Roseanne's racist Tuesday tweet comparing of former Obama aide Valerie Jarrett to an ape, ABC dismounted before riding enough miles to end up all the way inside. The least shocking element, if you didn't count her remaking/ remodeling of her public and on-camera self as a Trumpian, is that Roseanne would prove perhaps the greatest embarrassment to ABC since The Pruitts of Southampton, whose star Phyllis Diller was brassy enough but unlikely in any era to leave anything worse than egg on ABC's face, never mind swallow the network alive.

Barr is not exactly unknown for timing, utterances, and gestures described most charitably as bizarre. She once raised a loud uproar over
a coarse performance of "The Star Spangled Banner" before a baseball game, a performance far more desecrating to the national anthem if not the American flag than that of any professional football player who chose to kneel in protest during the anthem's playing. She is known well enough for subscribing to and enunciating the view that the 9/11 atrocity was the doing of George W. Bush and his administration; she has suggested Bush's father had more than a hand in John F. Kennedy's assassination; she has called the Boston Marathon bombing one of those "false-flag terror attacks" by which Barack Obama hoped to vaporise the Second Amendment; she has proclaimed herself a socialist one minute but denounced Bernie Sanders the next as a sellout running on war; she has defended the Pizzagate conspiracy theory around a tirelessly debunked child sex trafficking operation.

If Barr is not deranged or delusional she qualifies as the kind of creature whose raison d'etre is smashing up the house. Which may explain some of why President Trump and his most arsonic of supporters, those whose populism springs from no economic or sociopolitical well of thought, but from every well yielding the waters of the paranoid who think even the lowest level of authority could only have come from the devil's spells, took to her when her once-upon-a-time hit situation comedy was revived, and her eponymous television character was remade into a Trumpkin.

Hers and theirs, writes Katherine Timpf in National Review, "is the sort of lazy logic popular with people who don’t know a whit about politics, history, law, or economics, and can’t be bothered to learn, but still want to enjoy the standing of being smarter than everyone else. It’s a perspective that tends to be especially popular among those in the performing arts, where cravings for adulation run high; yet resentment of reliance on the scripted thoughts and actions of others fosters an obsession with demonstrating their independent worth."

Whatabout Kathy Griffin and her simulated decapitated Trump head? ask enough on the right. Whatabout it? Griffin incurred months of professional ostracism for her simulation, never mind that you might find enough in her industry who found the idea of decapitating Trump positively orgasmic. Neither Griffin's ostracism nor Barr's purge by ABC amount to violating freedom of speech, inasmuch as neither faced consequences instigated directly by the government, and if both faced professional ostracism and unemployment for their grotesque presentations it beggars a debate on the extent to which private entities may limit expression as a condition of employment, which is a separate issue though a tireless debate.

Whatabout all those late-night comics who can't live a day without firing some sort of rip at the president? ask enough others, including the president himself, who wondered aloud in a tweet why ABC cannot tolerate comparisons of Valerie Jarrett to a denizen of Planet of the Apes but can and does tolerate the horrible statements said about him on ABC. But the airwaves have tolerated horrible statements made about, oh, just about every president in my lifetime, and that harks back to the Eisenhower Administration. Short of calling outright for a president's assassination, or denouncing him in racial or religious or ethnic terms, there is nothing legally or morally enjoining anyone from saying anything he or she likes about a sitting president. And presidents of the left and the right alike are rather fabled for developing thin skins upon if not before assuming office.

Hollywood is not exactly friendly territory to the right, whether of the conservative, the libertarian, or the conservatarian community, and the temptation to embrace any Hollywoodlander who merely appears starboard side or dons a rightward mask is as overwhelming as the temptation to dismiss ABC as merely caving to political correctness as opposed to recoiling from and rejecting racism. Mounting the sabertooth is something else entirely, as ABC learned or re-learned the hard way. An awful lot of people in the rightward camps think those of their fellows who embraced Trump actually mounted a sabertooth. An awful lot of those who mounted him think those who declined to mount are unhinged. But unlike a network with an unhinged, racist star, it won't be that simple to dismount him, which is why even those who mounted him willingly and unapologetically must be praying hard.
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Re: ABC Dismounts the Sabertooth
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2018, 09:15:49 pm »
What a load of simple minded bullshit. The effing NT's always need to shoehorn Trump into everything that upsets their sensibilities. "My shit clogged the toilet. Must be because people like Trump." "Cat vomited on the coffee table. Must be because of Trump." This dumb broad got drugged up and said some stupid shit. She says stupid shit when she is sober. Who cares. A lot of people like her show and watched it. They can't anymore. Kieth Olbermann has said equal or worse shit and ABC/Disney just hired that stupid bastard. Trump responsible for that too? 

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Re: ABC Dismounts the Sabertooth
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2018, 09:28:56 pm »
What a load of simple minded bullshit. The effing NT's always need to shoehorn Trump into everything that upsets their sensibilities.
Well, who told them to adopt her of all people as some sort of hero, which is precisely what a lot of them, including the president to an extent, did when her show revived with her as a Trump supporter? Anyone who knew her previous behaviour should have had red flags flying at full mast when she emerged all of a sudden as a Trump supporter, in character and otherwise. The only shock, I suppose, should have been that it took this long for her to implode.

As Pat Buchanan lamented to William Safire outside the 1968 Democratic National Convention (they were Nixon speechwriters at the time), when they saw the Chicago police run amok, "Sometimes you don't want to be on your own side." Whether supporting or demurring from Trump, those of us on the right should continue to remind ourselves to be extremely careful whom we choose for heroes. So should the president himself. Picking Roseanne of all people as an avatar of the Trumpian right is something along the line of picking Bonnie and Clyde to run the banking system.


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Re: ABC Dismounts the Sabertooth
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2018, 09:33:46 pm »
Well, who told them to adopt her of all people as some sort of hero, which is precisely what a lot of them, including the president to an extent, did when her show revived with her as a Trump supporter? Anyone who knew her previous behaviour should have had red flags flying at full mast when she emerged all of a sudden as a Trump supporter, in character and otherwise. The only shock, I suppose, should have been that it took this long for her to implode.


I think she and Trump rather deserve each other as far as that goes; the remake of their political personas that is.

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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2018, 05:06:29 am »
@EasyAce  I really like your writing, and I think your analogy is pitch-perfect ;)!  Kudos, and thanks for introducing me to The Resurgence.
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Re: ABC Dismounts the Sabertooth
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2018, 05:26:54 am »
@EasyAce  I really like your writing, and I think your analogy is pitch-perfect ;)!  Kudos, and thanks for introducing me to The Resurgence.
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2018, 03:21:39 pm »
This is a great article, I like the way you write, keep it up. The Herzog reference works great.
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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2018, 04:21:10 pm »
   Another one out of the park, Thanks for sharing this with us @EasyAce
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2018, 04:24:45 pm »
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2018, 04:58:50 pm »
Well, who told them to adopt her of all people as some sort of hero, which is precisely what a lot of them, including the president to an extent, did when her show revived with her as a Trump supporter?

Bullshit. People praised a show for being mildly less condescending to Middle America than the regular Prime Time garbage the networks were peddling. It's a show with actors. It isn't real. It has little or nothing to do with Trump. It has to do with the fact that there is a huge market for content for fly over country.

Secondly who are all these people who were adopting her? Random bloggers? Rush stated clearly that she wasn't a Conservative. Hannity stated clearly that she wasn't a Conservative. You had to add the qualifier "to an extent" to shoehorn Trump congratulating Barr having a successful premier into supporting her politics and philosophy. They commented on the fact that someone put out a prime time program that the DC/LA/NYC crowd hated because it complimented rural values and yet it still did well. Of course that doesn't fit your narrative so you just cobbled together a bunch of assumptions and sold it as some sort of truth.

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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2018, 05:37:08 pm »
. . . Rush stated clearly that she wasn't a Conservative. Hannity stated clearly that she wasn't a Conservative. You had to add the qualifier "to an extent" to shoehorn Trump congratulating Barr having a successful premier into supporting her politics and philosophy.
Disregarding for the moment the point that Limburger and Hannibal are as malleable as the hour is long when it comes to actual conservative thought . . .

(S)he and POTUS have a history of praising one another. Not only was Barr’s Roseanne character an avid Trump supporter, but the comedienne said multiple times during Trump’s campaign that America would be “lucky” to have him as president.
---Rebecca Ianucci, TV Week.

Thank you Roseanne, very much appreciated.---Donald Trump, in a tweet after Barr said America would be lucky to have him as president.

[T]he self-described "radical" says she voted for him to "shake up the status quo"
---Lacey Rose, The Hollywood Reporter.

The star and executive producer did admit that Trump “says a lot of crazy shit . . . I’m not a Trump apologist. There are a lot of things he has said and done that I don’t agree with. Nobody is brainwashed into agreeing 100% of what anyone says.” But Barr also said Trump was “the lesser of two evils,” and that “the large part of why I could not vote for Hillary Clinton was because of Haiti.”
---Michael Schneider, IndieWire.

Over 18 million people! And it was about us!---Donald Trump, on the rebooted Roseanne's premiere and viewership.

Remember when President Trump called Roseanne to congratulate her on her ratings? I know that Republicans are starved for Republican-friendly television, but can we ever reach a time when the stakes are low enough to draw lines based on character? I know people voted for the low-character president because of the Flight 93 election and all that. I know folks turned out for Roy Moore because of judges. But where’s the sitcom emergency necessitating the love for Roseanne?

. . . Sometimes, a story fits no one’s political narrative cleanly. Sometimes, the story is the confusion and brokenness of our times. That’s the story of Roseanne, the populist, socialist, Green party, Trump-supporting conspiracy theorist who has now wasted what should be her last shot at relevance.

---David French, National Review.
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Re: ABC Dismounts the Sabertooth
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2018, 08:13:06 pm »
Disregarding for the moment the point that Limburger and Hannibal are as malleable as the hour is long when it comes to actual conservative thought . . .

(S)he and POTUS have a history of praising one another. Not only was Barr’s Roseanne character an avid Trump supporter, but the comedienne said multiple times during Trump’s campaign that America would be “lucky” to have him as president.
---Rebecca Ianucci, TV Week.

Thank you Roseanne, very much appreciated.---Donald Trump, in a tweet after Barr said America would be lucky to have him as president.

[T]he self-described "radical" says she voted for him to "shake up the status quo"
---Lacey Rose, The Hollywood Reporter.

The star and executive producer did admit that Trump “says a lot of crazy shit . . . I’m not a Trump apologist. There are a lot of things he has said and done that I don’t agree with. Nobody is brainwashed into agreeing 100% of what anyone says.” But Barr also said Trump was “the lesser of two evils,” and that “the large part of why I could not vote for Hillary Clinton was because of Haiti.”
---Michael Schneider, IndieWire.

Over 18 million people! And it was about us!---Donald Trump, on the rebooted Roseanne's premiere and viewership.

Remember when President Trump called Roseanne to congratulate her on her ratings? I know that Republicans are starved for Republican-friendly television, but can we ever reach a time when the stakes are low enough to draw lines based on character? I know people voted for the low-character president because of the Flight 93 election and all that. I know folks turned out for Roy Moore because of judges. But where’s the sitcom emergency necessitating the love for Roseanne?

. . . Sometimes, a story fits no one’s political narrative cleanly. Sometimes, the story is the confusion and brokenness of our times. That’s the story of Roseanne, the populist, socialist, Green party, Trump-supporting conspiracy theorist who has now wasted what should be her last shot at relevance.

---David French, National Review.

I have never heard of any of those damn people you cited except for David French and the only reason I know him is because folks like you were pimping him in the Primaries as the antidote to Trump, which was comical. Secondly where is Trump saying that Barr should be followed. He thanked her for giving him a kind word on a TV show. I also see you can only muster nonsensical names for Hannity and Rush because you have little or no idea what funny is.

Your irrational Trump hated and paranoia is on full display in this long winded, silly screed you pumped out. You small lot of daft bastards on your moral high horse rock away whining that the culture war is lost and all of Hollywood is a wasteland (even though I see you run to their sycophants at TV Week and The Hollywood Reporter for your talking points in your last post). When someone actually injects some mainstream right leaning concepts into a nationally televised program you turn your arrogant nose up at it claiming that it is all beneath you. That's all well and good, but don't except to be taken seriously by anyone more than the handful of nobodies like Kristol and French and any other irrelevant backbencher that 98% of America doesn't even knows exists.

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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2018, 08:28:54 pm »
No government in the 12,000 years of modern mankind history has led its people into anything but the history books with a simple lesson, don't let this happen to you.