This Is Why We Will Never Register Our Guns Or Cooperate With Government Mandates

[INVAR]

When idiots propose that guns should be registered and mandates be imposed to pay fees and special insurance carriers before you are permitted to exercise a Right, we will continually tell tell them to pound sand because we will not comply - period.

The following news is the reason why:

California Farmer Registers Guns and Gets Raided and Arrested as Result

Member of prominent farming family faces felony weapons charges

BAKERSFIELD, Calif. - The District Attorney's office filed a dozen felony gun charges Thursday against a member of a prominent farming family.

According to court documents, the California Department of Justice raided Jeffrey Scott Kirschenmann's home last month, after he tried to register an illegally modified gun online through the state's website.

What they found in his home, led to the DA filing charges: a dozen guns, 230 rounds of ammunition and two silencers seized from Jeffrey Scott Kirschenmann's home in a gated community in Northwest Bakersfield.

Records from the Secretary of State's office list Kirschenmann as the CEO of Scott Kirschenmann Farms, Inc. -- with the same lamont mailing address as Kirschenmann Farms, Inc. -- the local grower known for its potatoes used by Frito Lay to make chips.

Kirschenmann is out on $150,000 bail, accused of 12 felonies for possessing assault rifles, silencers and a multi-burst trigger activator.

We went to Kirschenmann's home Thursday afternoon to speak with him about the case, but there was no answer.

According to court documents, the DOJ began investigating Kirschenmann when he electronically submitted photos of an illegally modified AR-15-style firearm. 

Retired KCSO Commander Joe Pilkington is a court recognized firearms expert. He could not speak directly to Kirschenmann's case but says the laws are changing so frequently, it's often hard to keep up with the latest regulations.

"Just in the last few years, there have been lots of changes in gun laws," he said. "Making an effort, a good faith effort to comply with these really complicated laws, should count for something."

A new state law requires assault-style weapons be registered by the end of June.

The ONLY purpose for registration IS CONFISCATION.

The reason for CONFISCATION is SUBJUGATION to a totalitarian Communist state.

I for one am not going quietly into that good night.

[INVAR]

And for those morons who would try and convince us that registration of our guns will NOT lead to confiscations and the wholesale banning of our right to possess them - all one needs to do is listen to what those in GOVERNMENT tell us that they intend to do:

A Democratic congressman “went there” Thursday.

In an editorial in USA Today, Rep. Eric Swalwell proposed a mandatory buyback of all “military-style semiautomatic assault weapons” without any “grandfather clause” for existing weapons or any deference to the Second Amendment — the sort of forced-confiscation plan that gun-rights advocates have warned about and gun-controllers have hotly denied they seek.

The California Democrat called reinstating the federal assault-weapons ban from the 1990s a good beginning, “but it would not affect weapons already possessed.”

“Instead, we should ban possession of military-style semiautomatic assault weapons, we should buy back such weapons from all who choose to abide by the law, and we should criminally prosecute any who choose to defy it by keeping their weapons,” Mr. Swalwell said.

[skeeter]

This Bakersfield farmer is meant to be the example to all CA owners of AR15's... Sacramento has been changing the configuration requirements for them so often that its nearly impossible to be compliant. The salt in the wound is this guy is from the red part of the state.

With any luck this will backfire on CA when this guy sues in federal court.

But then again, who knows these days.

[XenaLee]

"Just in the last few years, there have been lots of changes in gun laws," he said. "Making an effort, a good faith effort to comply with these really complicated laws, should count for something."

Um.... but it doesn't.  And it never will.  And "should" doesn't count for chit when you're dealing with radical, fascist leftists intent on disarming a populace.

This guy was apparently unaware of what state he lived in.

[thackney]

This Bakersfield farmer is meant to be the example to all CA owners of AR15's... Sacramento has been changing the configuration requirements for them so often that its nearly impossible to be compliant. The salt in the wound is this guy is from the red part of the state....

after he tried to register an illegally modified gun online through the state's website.

This is one of the good guys, trying to do right by following the law.  He got caught up in CA changing requirements.

[skeeter]

Um.... but it doesn't.  And it never will.  And "should" doesn't count for chit when you're dealing with radical, fascist leftists intent on disarming a populace.

This guy was apparently unaware of what state he lived in.

Don't be too hard on him. This state has radically changed out from under those of us who've lived here awhile.

I hate to sound like a broken record but this shift to the left is the consequence of the social disjointedness caused by massive immigration, which allows these radicals unchecked access to the levers of power.

[INVAR]

This is one of the good guys, trying to do right by following the law.  He got caught up in CA changing requirements.

This is why YOU DO NOT follow ANY "law" that infringes upon or supersedes an inalienable Right.

It is our DUTY to defy such "laws" and refuse to comply with them.

Let them come to put government guns to our heads to force compliance and do mass arrests ala Stalin - maybe THEN the rest of this people will wake up and realize what time it is that we have arrived.

If not, then like the Jews of 30's Europe - walking oneself to the cattle cars for camps will be our fate.

[driftdiver]

This is one of the good guys, trying to do right by following the law.  He got caught up in CA changing requirements.

And a law abiding citizen is going to jail.   Whereas the criminals won't comply with this law and will only go to jail after they commit some more crimes.

[XenaLee]

Don't be too hard on him. This state has radically changed out from under those of us who've lived here awhile.

I hate to sound like a broken record but this shift to the left is the consequence of the social disjointedness caused by massive immigration, which allows these radicals unchecked access to the levers of power.

I'm not intending to be hard on him.  I'm just stunned that someone could be so clueless re: how his state has 'radically changed'.  His potatoes supply Frito Lay's.  He's not a small operation, evidently.
 So you would think he would have more knowledge about current events and "changes" in his own state.   

I guess that's part of the problem we're having and a pet peeve of mine.  Uninformed voters.  A direct reason and result of why this nation is spiraling downward.  People totally uninformed, unaware and apparently apathetic when it comes to becoming informed.  Just sayin...

[verga]

Eventually registration leads to confiscation
You mean aside from Cuba, China, Russia, and most other totalitarian states?
WWI Germany, Russia, Bermuda...Greece, Ireland, Jamaica, Soviet Georgia.

let's see...New Zealand, 1921 the ownership of revolvers were allowed in the name of personal defense, 1970s this list was used to confiscate all revolvers.

Canada...registration list 1990s, old guns grandfathered in, but this list is used for the state to confiscate the guns upon the death of the holder with no compensation to the estate

1996 Australia used it's list of registered semiauto hunting rifles to confiscate all those weapons.

The UK government instituted handgun registration in 1921, and about every 10 years or so they further restrict what can be owned and use the registration rolls to collect what is illegal.

How about Chicago, put in registration of long guns, used that same registration to confiscate semiauto long guns in the early 1990s

What about California, couldn't make up it's mind if the SKS was covered or not (1989), decided AFTER the registration period was closed that they needed to be registered, declared a second 'grace period' for registration...then about 5 years ago they decided that those SKSs registered during the grace period were illegal because the grace period was illegal, and in certain cities and counties sent law enforcement to the listed addresses demanding surrender of the firearm. Because there is the legal option of removing the gun from the state of CA, and these officers had no warrants, smart gun owners turned them away with the claim 'I gave it to a relative in Oregon (or whatever)' but MANY were seized with no compensation. (Cities and counties later on offered compensation for anyone who had a receipt, but the police weren't giving out receipts, only a few people who demanded them had them and they were basically notes scribbled on whatever spare paper the officer had)

Side Note, the SKS was the MOST common weapon in the hands of Korean Shop Owners who used them to defend themselves and businesses when the LA riots happened.

[Cyber Liberty]

B-b-b-but I thought we could rely on unbiased Judges to protect out rights? 

[INVAR]

B-b-b-but I thought we could rely on unbiased Judges to protect out rights?

Because it is unhinged lunacy and treason not to trust our government or their courts.

I mean, men in office or on the bench would NEVER violate your rights....

/SARC

[Cyber Liberty]

Because it is unhinged lunacy and treason not to trust our government or their courts.

I mean, men in office or on the bench would NEVER violate your rights....

/SARC

Hey, hey, hey!  You sound like you're being an outlaw there...defining laws as you wish like that.  How dare you question The Great and Powerful Oz?

[WingNot]

Hey, hey, hey!  You sound like you're being an outlaw there...defining laws as you wish like that.  How dare you question The Great and Powerful Oz?

Dorothy.  "Were" not in Kansas anymore.

[txradioguy]

Because it is unhinged lunacy and treason not to trust our government or their courts.

I mean, men in office or on the bench would NEVER violate your rights....

/SARC

And of course they know what's better for us than we do.

[mountaineer]

I'm just hoping they'll never require registration of "assault-style" rocks and other assault-style weapons of mass destruction. From my cold dead hands!

[INVAR]

And of course they know what's better for us than we do.

Masterminds always do.

[Smokin Joe]

I'm just hoping they'll never require registration of "assault-style" rocks and other assault-style weapons of mass destruction. From my cold dead hands!

You and me both! I'm a geologist, and I know I'd be high on their list.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

An 'Illegaly Modified' weapon.

Used the term illegaly enough, but didn't say What modification to it made it illegal.

What'd he do to it?

If he replaced the receiver to make it burst or full auto we'd of heard all about that at least 15 times.

So what are we left with?

A bump stock?

Two magazines duck taped together?

Did he store night vision goggles in the same safe with it?

[Oceander]

What a lark.

If gun registration is mandated by law, you’ll meekly register your weapons, just like everyone else, your bluster notwithstanding. 

[INVAR]

What a lark.

If gun registration is mandated by law, you’ll meekly register your weapons, just like everyone else, your bluster notwithstanding.

Well, you would be wrong.

I certainly refused to do it when I lived up in Chicago.

I will be damned if I do it where I live now.

See, I do not view government the way most of you do.  So, when they tell me that guns are to be registered, that's a sign - because I know what follows thereafter - and I have no intentions of going along with it.

[skeeter]

An 'Illegaly Modified' weapon.

Used the term illegaly enough, but didn't say What modification to it made it illegal.

What'd he do to it?

If he replaced the receiver to make it burst or full auto we'd of heard all about that at least 15 times.

So what are we left with?

A bump stock?

Two magazines duck taped together?

Did he store night vision goggles in the same safe with it?

Well, the state mandated 'bullet' buttons' a few years back, making it necessary to use a tool to remove a magazine, then they decided bullet buttons made it too esy to change magazines so they made a new law making it necessary to modify your AR so that its necessary to break the barrel from the receiver/stock in order to remove the magazine.

Of course they've also banned the following features:

Pistol grip that protrudes beneath the action of the weapon
Thumbhole stock
Folding or telescoping stock
Grenade launcher or flare launcher
Flash suppressor
Forward pistol grip

All perfectly common sense restrictions, I'm sure.

[roamer_1]

What a lark.

If gun registration is mandated by law, you’ll meekly register your weapons, just like everyone else, your bluster notwithstanding.

I most certainly will NOT.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

Well, the state mandated 'bullet' buttons' a few years back, making it necessary to use a tool to remove a magazine, then they decided bullet buttons made it too esy to change magazines so they made a new law making it necessary to modify your AR so that its necessary to break the barrel from the receiver/stock in order to remove the magazine.

Of course they've also banned the following features:

Pistol grip that protrudes beneath the action of the weapon
Thumbhole stock
Folding or telescoping stock
Grenade launcher or flare launcher
Flash suppressor
Forward pistol grip

All perfectly common sense restrictions, I'm sure.

The one that got me was when they banned bayonet lugs.

Sounded really scarey. What kind of sicko would want a rifle with a . . . . GASP . . . . . Bayonet on it?

The question should be (as with all the idiot restrictions you cited above) WHY, would having a bayonet added onto a semi automatic poodle rifle make a person snap?

They already have a Rifle, but somehow being able to use it as a short thrusting spear instead of a gun, would be the breaking point.

A 4 and 1/2 ft long spear would be All a mass murderer (with a rifle) needs to push them over the edge.

[RoosGirl]

What a lark.

If gun registration is mandated by law, you’ll meekly register your weapons, just like everyone else, your bluster notwithstanding.

You assume a whole hell of lot there.