In training to be on church security team; need recommendations for new CCL handgun

[txradioguy]

I almost replaced my faithful XDs with a Sig 365 but decided against it in the end.


I REALLY like the 365 though.

@Bigun I'm pushing really hard and dropping hints every day to my wife I'd like a 365 for our anniversary next month.

[mountaineer]

The price of the P938 is scaring me a little. I do like the look of the LC9. I should be doing some shooting within the next week or so, and will have a better idea what to get. Thanks for all the input!

[Elderberry]

The price of the P938 is scaring me a little. I do like the look of the LC9. I should be doing some shooting within the next week or so, and will have a better idea what to get. Thanks for all the input!

@mountaineer



Shop around.


Buy online and have it shipped to a local FFL.

   https://www.deguns.net/product-p/938-9-db-lsr-ambi.htm

Sig Sauer P938 Desert 9mm Nitron with Laser - 938-9-DB-LSR-AMBI


      
   
Our Price: $699.00
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[Lando Lincoln]

The price of the P938 is scaring me a little. I do like the look of the LC9. I should be doing some shooting within the next week or so, and will have a better idea what to get. Thanks for all the input!

It is possible you could run into an LC9 out there at a "steal" price.  Don't do it.  Be sure to get the LC9s which has the vastly improved trigger/striker-fired arrangement.  I'm not up to speed on the EC9s but I believe it is a basic stripped down version of the LC9s at a lower price.

Also, if you consider a LC9s, pull the slide back and look at the end stop of the guide rod.  It originally was a "T".  The newer versions have a conical end which ensures proper seating after each round. 

My personal opinion... I like the Ruger LC9s.  A lot. 

[thackney]

It is possible you could run into an LC9 out there at a "steal" price.  Don't do it.  Be sure to get the LC9s which has the vastly improved trigger/striker-fired arrangement.  I'm not up to speed on the EC9s but I believe it is a basic stripped down LC9s and a lower price.

I have the LC9s.  I would not get the LC9.  The EC9s is an inch bigger in length and height, same width.

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2017/12/21/affordable-everyday-carry-ruger-announces-ec9s-pistol/

[mountaineer]

Sig Sauer P938 Desert 9mm Nitron with Laser - 938-9-DB-LSR-AMBI

Wow, that's pretty.

[Smokin Joe]

@mountaineer

Please read this article:

https://www.skilledsurvival.com/sw-airweight-review/

The advantage of the 642 is that it is hammerless (no hammer to catch on clothing when you draw, or hang up in it if you are shooting at very close range through a coat pocket or purse). I have one for a 'parka pocket' gun in winter. They are light, but for shooting purposes, they are double action only and have a harder trigger pull than the 637 model. The 637 model will shoot single action or double action (you have a hammer to cock the Model 637), but that same hammer can snag in clothing on a draw and renders the firearm performance problematical for shooting while still in a pocket or purse at very close range (arms length) defense, as it can hang up and keep the firearm from discharging.

Likely, you would want to carry with a holster, so it becomes a question of whether you are more comfortable with the hammer and possibility of shooting single action or more so with the double action trigger pull. I find the 'slick' profile of the hammerless to be a plus.

To reiterate, these pistols are light weight, and are chambered for .38 special and rated for the more powerful +P rounds.

Unless you see the need for larger capacity or just prefer the semi-auto (and I am a semiauto fan), this is a good balance of power, reliability and light weight.

Just my $0.02. YMMV.

[mountaineer]

Going to the range tomorrow and hope to try out a few different 9mms.  ^-^

[thackney]

Going to the range tomorrow and hope to try out a few different 9mms.  ^-^

Woo Hoo!

We will await your written report.

[mountaineer]

Fired a Springfield Arms XD 9mm today. I think I'd like to try something more compact.
For what it's worth, though, I was pretty darn accurate with it.  ^-^

[Bigun]

Fired a Springfield Arms XD 9mm today. I think I'd like to try something more compact.
For what it's worth, though, I was pretty darn accurate with it.  ^-^

Find someone who has and XDs and try that.  I think you will like it a lot and not just because I carry one.

[Smokin Joe]

Fired a Springfield Arms XD 9mm today. I think I'd like to try something more compact.
For what it's worth, though, I was pretty darn accurate with it.  ^-^

Are you looking for a single stack magazine firearm (usually 6-7 rounds in the mag), or sticking with the capacity (15-15) offered by a double stack magazine semi-auto?

If the latter, check out the S&W M&P9, Gun tests rated it highly. (My favorite is a Sig P228, and I have not shot the Smith).
The KelTec PF9 is a single stack with a very thin profile and I have fired those, and I liked them, but it lacks the capacity of the Sig. It is also rated fairly high by Gun Tests.

[mountaineer]

Probably ought to consider a greater capacity magazine, come to think of it. I liked having 16 bullets at my disposal,  and for church security work, that makes sense.

[Bigun]

Probably ought to consider a greater capacity magazine, come to think of it. I liked having 16 bullets at my disposal,  and for church security work, that makes sense.

The absolute best compromise on size/mag capacity I've seen is in the Sig P365.  I seriously doubt you will find anything better.

[txradioguy]

The absolute best compromise on size/mag capacity I've seen is in the Sig P365.  I seriously doubt you will find anything better.

 

[Elderberry]

Probably ought to consider a greater capacity magazine, come to think of it. I liked having 16 bullets at my disposal,  and for church security work, that makes sense.

@mountaineer

If its for church security, have you considered "open carry"?

[mountaineer]

Nothing quite like that. Next will check out Glock and M&P.

[txradioguy]

The absolute best compromise on size/mag capacity I've seen is in the Sig P365.  I seriously doubt you will find anything better.

@Bigun I did end up getting the P365 for Father's Day.

It's everything I was hoping for and more.  And everything that's it's been advertised as being since it's debut in January.

Shoots straight right out of the box and tucks away in my pocket.

It's the size of a G43 but with up to 13 rounds of 9mm

[RoosGirl]

Probably ought to consider a greater capacity magazine, come to think of it. I liked having 16 bullets at my disposal,  and for church security work, that makes sense.

Lady, let's talk.  No, actually, let's shop!

Let's shop for magazine holsters:
https://thewellarmedwoman.com/product/universaladjustable-magazine-holster-by-the-well-armed-woman/

That match your concealed carry holster:
https://thewellarmedwoman.com/product/waistband-holster-well-armed-woman-custom-models-colors/

You carry your extra ammo on you, not in some weighted down pistol.   ^-^

[Cyber Liberty]

Lady, let's talk.  No, actually, let's shop!

Let's shop for magazine holsters:
https://thewellarmedwoman.com/product/universaladjustable-magazine-holster-by-the-well-armed-woman/

That match your concealed carry holster:
https://thewellarmedwoman.com/product/waistband-holster-well-armed-woman-custom-models-colors/

You carry your extra ammo on you, not in some weighted down pistol.   ^-^

"You donnnn't neeeeed morrrre than six bullllets to killll a deeeeer!"  /Coumo Voice.

[RoosGirl]

"You donnnn't neeeeed morrrre than six bullllets to killll a deeeeer!"  /Coumo Voice.

I'm blind as a bat, need all the ammo I can carry. 

[Frank Cannon]

In training to be on church security team; need recommendations for new CCL handgun

First recommendation is not to go to church in South Philly. You wouldn't need a gun then.

[Elderberry]

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[Bigun]

@Bigun I did end up getting the P365 for Father's Day.

It's everything I was hoping for and more.  And everything that's it's been advertised as being since it's debut in January.

Shoots straight right out of the box and tucks away in my pocket.

It's the size of a G43 but with up to 13 rounds of 9mm

That's great @txradioguy! 

I've looked at it very hard and still may eventually wind up with one myself!

Enjoy!

[mountaineer]

You carry your extra ammo on you, not in some weighted down pistol.   ^-^

Oh, I know. Security team members will be expected to carry two extra magazines. That's how we're training - empty the magazine, whip it out and drop it on the ground, insert the new one, keep firing.

The funny thing is that this isn't anything like South Philly. It's a quiet little farm town in western Pennsylvania, but no one can be complacent anymore. A church down the road from our home has an armed security guard stationed outside the sanctuary (doors are closed) every Sunday. He has a trained German Shepherd with him. The dog would rip your arm off, if ordered, but he also bows his head when the pastor says, "Let us pray." 

I mentioned to my sister that we're training for the security team and she admitted that she gets very nervous at her church in suburban Pittsburgh, thinking that someone could storm in and start shooting.