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Re: McCain's inner circle planning on having Pence, not Trump, at funeral: report
« Reply #150 on: May 08, 2018, 03:05:48 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on May 08, 2018, 02:21:41 pm
@driftdiver @CatherineofAragon

I think this isn't a black and white issue, and a number of reasonable stances can be taken here.  He's not a nice man, his dying actions are not nice, but we also need to be careful about what we say about him, because that reflects on us more than him.  And, we need to not hide the truth - as much as we know the truth of the matter. I appreciate Catherine being extremely charitable with regard to Mr. McCain, and I appreciate those who try to make sure that truth doesn't die with McCain.  Stepping off of my soapbox now... :bolt:

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I understand your POV; as I said earlier, I’m not a McCain fan.  You won’t see me trying to whitewash him or his career.  But like I’ve said...oh, hell with it, I’ve repeated it enough now.  But I really do agree with what you say.

Jonah Goldberg was right, IMO, when he said it’s particularly debasing that some are angry with McCain to prove their love of Trump.

Before anybody yells, I’m not accusing anyone here of that; the word “some” is important. But I’ve seen enough Twitter outrage on Trump’s behalf from MAGA people to know that it’s true.

Then again, Jonah is a SOROS-funded ally of the globalists, so...

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Re: John McCain doesn’t want Trump at his funeral, wants Obama as Eulogist instead
« Reply #151 on: May 08, 2018, 03:14:42 pm »
Quote from: RedHead on May 08, 2018, 02:44:33 pm
Why is this a surprise?  "He's a hero because he was captured.  I like heroes who weren't captured."  How does McCain forget a comment like that?

Trump should have said..." I like heroes who didn't make propaganda tapes for the enemy while captured".  John would have liked that truthful comment much better.   ^-^
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Re: John McCain doesn’t want Trump at his funeral, wants Obama as Eulogist instead
« Reply #152 on: May 08, 2018, 03:16:11 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on May 08, 2018, 03:14:42 pm
Trump should have said..." I like heroes who didn't make propaganda tapes for the enemy while captured".  John would have liked that truthful comment much better.   ^-^

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Re: Jake Tapper: McCain not wanting Trump at his funeral is ‘real moment for the country’
« Reply #153 on: May 08, 2018, 03:29:15 pm »
Quote from: driftdiver on May 08, 2018, 02:15:19 pm
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Sure, until those dying strike out with cheap shots at anything and everything.  Especially after decades of working to undermine a free America

Hmmmm.......trying to picture John McCain "...working to undermine a free America", wearing some sinister grin.

It doesn't compute.

The poor guy's mental faculties may be fading fast.  He's frightened.  And, he's striking out.   It's 'normal'. IMO.
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Re: Jake Tapper: McCain not wanting Trump at his funeral is ‘real moment for the country’
« Reply #154 on: May 08, 2018, 03:35:58 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on May 08, 2018, 03:29:15 pm
Hmmmm.......trying to picture John McCain "...working to undermine a free America", wearing some sinister grin.

It doesn't compute.

The poor guy's mental faculties may be fading fast.  He's frightened.  And, he's striking out.   It's 'normal'. IMO.

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Pushing TARP was helping?
Working with ISIS was helping?
Fighting the repeal of Obamacare was helping?

the list is long and distinguished.

The fact that he's going public with this (with his families help) is telling. 
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Re: McCain's inner circle planning on having Pence, not Trump, at funeral: report
« Reply #155 on: May 08, 2018, 03:37:26 pm »
How many people have suffered and died as the result of Obamacare?   We'll never know, but I wonder how they feel right now considering he was instrumental in its passing and the failure to repeal it.
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Re: Jake Tapper: McCain not wanting Trump at his funeral is ‘real moment for the country’
« Reply #156 on: May 08, 2018, 03:47:01 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on May 08, 2018, 03:29:15 pm
Hmmmm.......trying to picture John McCain "...working to undermine a free America", wearing some sinister grin.

It doesn't compute.

The poor guy's mental faculties may be fading fast.  He's frightened.  And, he's striking out.   It's 'normal'. IMO.

(Scratching head.)  There is nothing new about this "behavior."  He and/or his people are behaving exactly as I've come to expect after many years of observing him.  Petty.
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Re: McCain's inner circle planning on having Pence, not Trump, at funeral: report
« Reply #157 on: May 08, 2018, 03:57:14 pm »
While Mc Cain seeks to be in the limelight, to set an agenda in his final appearance, Trump is trying to make the world safer in the Korean peninsula and in Iran.

(I did not like the disrespect of McCain by Trump at the time)

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Re: McCain's inner circle planning on having Pence, not Trump, at funeral: report
« Reply #158 on: May 08, 2018, 04:05:05 pm »
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Re: McCain's inner circle planning on having Pence, not Trump, at funeral: report
« Reply #159 on: May 08, 2018, 04:05:42 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on May 08, 2018, 03:57:14 pm
While Mc Cain seeks to be in the limelight, to set an agenda in his final appearance, Trump is trying to make the world safer in the Korean peninsula and in Iran.

(I did not like the disrespect of McCain by Trump at the time)

The hero comment was stupid but typical of Trump.  He always attacks, many times without thinking.   It usually works for him but in that case it was stupid and hurtful for many others who were not his target.

McCain is all about himself.   His love of power and money.   A real patriot would have resigned long ago when he stopped being able to do the job.
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Re: Jake Tapper: McCain not wanting Trump at his funeral is ‘real moment for the country’
« Reply #160 on: May 08, 2018, 04:09:22 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 08, 2018, 03:47:01 pm
(Scratching head.)  There is nothing new about this "behavior."  He and/or his people are behaving exactly as I've come to expect after many years of observing him.  Petty.

Meant that his heart had to be in the right place when placing those votes... and he always liked to appear as 'Everyman'...putting the People above Party...and all that other happy horse manure.

Only other logical explanation is that he was being blackmailed by the Clintons since they lived in the White House.

...'missing' 500 FBI files, etc..
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Re: Jake Tapper: McCain not wanting Trump at his funeral is ‘real moment for the country’
« Reply #161 on: May 08, 2018, 04:28:16 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on May 08, 2018, 04:09:22 pm
Meant that his heart had to be in the right place when placing those votes... and he always liked to appear as 'Everyman'...putting the People above Party...and all that other happy horse manure.

Only other logical explanation is that he was being blackmailed by the Clintons since they lived in the White House.

...'missing' 500 FBI files, etc..

I can't disagree with what you're saying there, old bean.  His is a career I've been following (not voluntarily!) for 40 years, and this is totes in character for him.  He required no bribe or blackmail to behave this way, it's in his nature.  To make this sort of slap is as natural as, well, falling off a log.  I'm not convinced he still breathes, to be honest.
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Re: Jake Tapper: McCain not wanting Trump at his funeral is ‘real moment for the country’
« Reply #162 on: May 08, 2018, 04:31:29 pm »
Quote from: driftdiver on May 08, 2018, 03:35:58 pm
@DCPatriot
Pushing TARP was helping?
Working with ISIS was helping?
Fighting the repeal of Obamacare was helping?

the list is long and distinguished.

The fact that he's going public with this (with his families help) is telling.

Every article I've ever read about him talks about his temper and what a nasty person he can be.
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Re: Jake Tapper: McCain not wanting Trump at his funeral is ‘real moment for the country’
« Reply #163 on: May 08, 2018, 04:48:30 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on May 08, 2018, 04:31:29 pm
Every article I've ever read about him talks about his temper and what a nasty person he can be.

I've seen that up close and in person.  (He spits when he yells.)  I'm a "constituent," remember. **nononono*
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Re: Jake Tapper: McCain not wanting Trump at his funeral is ‘real moment for the country’
« Reply #164 on: May 08, 2018, 04:55:41 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 08, 2018, 04:48:30 pm
I've seen that up close and in person.  (He spits when he yells.)  I'm a "constituent," remember. **nononono*

Yeah I remember...figured like with Flake you'd have better insight than anyone on what McCain is like when the Camera's aren't on.
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Re: Jake Tapper: McCain not wanting Trump at his funeral is ‘real moment for the country’
« Reply #165 on: May 08, 2018, 05:01:52 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on May 08, 2018, 04:55:41 pm
Yeah I remember...figured like with Flake you'd have better insight than anyone on what McCain is like when the Camera's aren't on.

Don't like either one.  Flake had to earn my dislike, when he broke his promises to limit his term three times.  I didn't like McCain right out of the box.  He always struck me as an opportunist.  Flake proved himself to be formed from the same mold even before he was Inaugurated as Senator.
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Re: Jake Tapper: McCain not wanting Trump at his funeral is ‘real moment for the country’
« Reply #166 on: May 08, 2018, 08:55:57 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 08, 2018, 04:48:30 pm
I've seen that up close and in person.  (He spits when he yells.)  I'm a "constituent," remember. **nononono*

I saw him up close and personal in 2012, and he was actually pretty sharp.  :shrug:
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Re: Jake Tapper: McCain not wanting Trump at his funeral is ‘real moment for the country’
« Reply #167 on: May 08, 2018, 09:04:55 pm »
Quote from: CatherineofAragon on May 08, 2018, 02:06:09 pm
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I don’t know about that.  Maybe.  It could also be said that absence of mercy and compassion for the dying accomplishes the same thing.

@CatherineofAragon

Thanks for the suggestion. I think I will wait 10 years or so to make sure the evil SOB is really dead ,and MAYBE then consider a little compassion for  him.

Stranger things have happened,or so I have been told.
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Re: Jake Tapper: McCain not wanting Trump at his funeral is ‘real moment for the country’
« Reply #168 on: May 08, 2018, 09:41:40 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on May 08, 2018, 08:55:57 pm
I saw him up close and personal in 2012, and he was actually pretty sharp.  :shrug:

That's because he liked you (I assume).  I was a PITA constituent, and recalcitrant politicians don't like this kind of constituent....

It's true what they say about him:  He fought conservatives with a great deal more vigor than liberal Democrats.
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Re: Jake Tapper: McCain not wanting Trump at his funeral is ‘real moment for the country’
« Reply #169 on: May 08, 2018, 09:54:10 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 08, 2018, 09:41:40 pm
That's because he liked you (I assume).  I was a PITA constituent, and recalcitrant politicians don't like this kind of constituent....

It's true what they say about him:  He fought conservatives with a great deal more vigor than liberal Democrats.

Oh, I know, and I can't stand the guy.  He was violently anti-conservative, and not at all anti-liberal.

That's why I was surprised by how rational he was.  It was in a small group of workers at the Republican Headquarters, (back when there was still a little something in the Republican party that actually stood for what I believed in  :shrug:).

I don't doubt for a minute your experience of being spat upon by an angry McCain.
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