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The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« on: April 24, 2018, 04:00:17 pm »
The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
http://thehill.com/opinion/finance/384536-the-great-exodus-out-of-americas-blue-cities
04/24/18

Am I the only one in my spinning class at Equinox in Manhattan who’s fed up paying $200 every month for a gym with clean showers, $3,000 in rent every month for an apartment without cockroaches and $8 every morning for a cup of coffee? Am I the only one moving through the greater part of New York City boroughs and seeing an inexorable march of urban decay matched with the discomfort of crowding and inexplicable costs? I know I am not.

New York is the most expensive city in America. Its lower-cost neighborhoods are riddled with crime and homelessness. Its public schools, some of which are among the worst in the nation, look more like prisons than places of learning.

With between up to 50 percent of their paycheck going to a combination of federal, local and city taxes, not including other consumer taxes baked into every aspect of their consumer practices, residents don’t even have the comfort of knowing that their tax expenditures are going to the improvement of their lives in the city. New York infamously misuses the hard-earned tax revenues of its citizens in ways that scarcely benefit them.

Eventually, city and state taxes, fees, and regulations become so burdensome that people and corporations jump ship. More people are currently fleeing New York than any other metropolitan area in the nation. More than 1 million people have moved out of New York City since 2010 in search of greener pastures, which amounts to a negative net migration rate of 4.4 percent....

...Texas is the No. 1 state people move trucks to, with states like Florida, South Carolina, Tennessee, North Carolina and Colorado rounding out the top 10. The states people are fleeing? New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Illinois — and at the top, California....
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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2018, 04:05:07 pm »
U-Haul Growth States: Texas Remained No. 1 in 2017
https://www.uhaul.com/Articles/About/13040/U-Haul-Growth-States-Texas-Remained-No-1-IN-2017/
Jan. 8, 2018

...U-Haul Growth State Rankings for 2017

1 Texas
2 Florida
3 Arkansas
4 South Carolina
5 Tennessee
6 Washington
7 North Carolina
8 Connecticut
9 Colorado
10 Vermont...

41 Georgia
42 Maryland
43 Arizona
44 New York
45 New Jersey
46 Massachusetts
47 Michigan
48 Pennsylvania
49 Illinois
50 California
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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2018, 04:08:22 pm »
That "New York is for the rich and the poor." was not a new saying when I heard it said in the 1950s.

"With about $85 billion in annual spending, New York
City’s budget is bigger than that of all but a handful
of states.": http://www.ibo.nyc.ny.us/iboreports/understandingthebudget.pdf

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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2018, 04:11:18 pm »
I go to a weekly writing group in San Antonio- mostly leftists who fled California and the Rust Belt. They are vicious Trump haters and big Beatoff supporters. I make it clear that I do not agree with the politics and suggest we discuss writing instead of politics. I wouldn't attend if I didn't get good feedback.
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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2018, 04:14:27 pm »
Like locusts, having stripped bare the vegetation of prosperity, they move onto greener and lusher environs to do the same.

A little leaven, leavens the entire lump.

Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2018, 04:27:07 pm »
I wish Texas all the good fortune, that can be had from being the growth wonderland.

In the 50s and 60s California grew very fast, the schools were excellent.

It produced people like Reagan, too.
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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2018, 04:41:16 pm »
I wish Texas all the good fortune, that can be had from being the growth wonderland.

In the 50s and 60s California grew very fast, the schools were excellent.

It produced people like Reagan, too.

This 'aint the 1950's and 60's.  The export growth from urban blue state refugees is big government socialism.

They do not make excellent schools, but impose the very curriculums that led them to ruin.

Texas goes "blue" (more accurately red-commie) from these exoduses.

This nation will never elect another Ronald Reagan, because the the idea of limited government is abhorrent to them.  They want all-encompassing nany-state.  It's what they created in the states they are leaving, and will create the same thing in the states they are moving to.

Already watching it happen in Nashville as refugees from Chicago and Detroit are turning a once Conservative city 'blue'.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2018, 04:48:52 pm »
Red states need a litmus test for all new immigrants coming from your basic Commie Pinko fagtastic indoctrinated states.  Must answer two questions before admittance for permanent residency. 
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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2018, 04:50:47 pm »
...Must answer two questions before admittance for permanent residency.

When are you leaving and why haven't you left already?
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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2018, 05:04:14 pm »
When are you leaving and why haven't you left already?

Okay...make that 4 questions then!   888high58888
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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2018, 05:20:08 pm »
Libs should be forced to stay in the cesspools they create.   :whistle:

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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2018, 05:43:25 pm »
Sigh....

The article is true, and I see the results of this fairly regularly.

Some fool actually has a "Beto" sign up in my neighborhood.

Really?
In Sugar Land?
Ft. Bend County?

There were "Hope and Change" signs in front of a house or two in 2008.
I was hoping it was just an Obamanation, but now it seems, unfortunately it was not.

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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2018, 05:44:01 pm »
Red states need a litmus test for all new immigrants coming from your basic Commie Pinko fagtastic indoctrinated states.  Must answer two questions before admittance for permanent residency.

Okay, I'll bite...
What are the two questions?

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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2018, 05:46:43 pm »
Sigh....

The article is true, and I see the results of this fairly regularly.

Some fool actually has a "Beto" sign up in my neighborhood.

Really?
In Sugar Land?
Ft. Bend County?

There were "Hope and Change" signs in front of a house or two in 2008.
I was hoping it was just an Obamanation, but now it seems, unfortunately it was not.

You have an infestation my friend. 
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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2018, 05:48:41 pm »
Sigh....

The article is true, and I see the results of this fairly regularly.

Some fool actually has a "Beto" sign up in my neighborhood.

Really?
In Sugar Land?
Ft. Bend County?

There were "Hope and Change" signs in front of a house or two in 2008.
I was hoping it was just an Obamanation, but now it seems, unfortunately it was not.

Someone brought Betoff stickers, a direct rip-off of Whataburger- same logo saying Whatabeto- to my SA meeting. I gave him a look and shoved it away. "Not for me!" He apologized at the next meeting. I hope Whataburger sues them for copyright infringement.

Haven't seen a Beatoff sign in the Hill Country. Hope I don't.
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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2018, 05:54:11 pm »
You have an infestation my friend.

Yep.
We're too close to Houston, that's the deal now.
Even with our close location were were just 40K population (37K, maybe?), 20-25 yrs ago, and still some rural areas.
It's over 100K now, rural areas are gone.

I gotta move further west or south.
Just further out.

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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2018, 06:13:07 pm »
Yep.
We're too close to Houston, that's the deal now.
Even with our close location were were just 40K population (37K, maybe?), 20-25 yrs ago, and still some rural areas.
It's over 100K now, rural areas are gone.

I gotta move further west or south.
Just further out.

I hear you.  Just pay attention to the elevation and drainage specifics my friend.
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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2018, 06:18:04 pm »
I hear you.  Just pay attention to the elevation and drainage specifics my friend.

Yes, sir. Understood. 100%.
How are things going with the refurbishment?

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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2018, 06:20:17 pm »
Yes, sir. Understood. 100%.
How are things going with the refurbishment?

Getting closer.  Carpet is going down today.  Tile and the hardwood are already down.  Still need counter-tops and associated sinks.

I'm trying to decide how big a levee I can afford when we get the house rebuild completed.
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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2018, 12:19:36 am »
Exodus from states like California?
Stop kidding yourselves.

For every white that leaves California, there are 100,000 non-whites who would migrate there if they only could get themselves into the USA.

Perhaps 1,000,000 ... or more.
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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2018, 01:11:47 am »
Someone brought Betoff stickers, a direct rip-off of Whataburger- same logo saying Whatabeto- to my SA meeting. I gave him a look and shoved it away. "Not for me!" He apologized at the next meeting. I hope Whataburger sues them for copyright infringement.

Haven't seen a Beatoff sign in the Hill Country. Hope I don't.

I've seen them in Waco.

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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2018, 03:13:09 pm »
Yep.
We're too close to Houston, that's the deal now.
Even with our close location were were just 40K population (37K, maybe?), 20-25 yrs ago, and still some rural areas.
It's over 100K now, rural areas are gone.

I gotta move further west or south.
Just further out.

Hill Country. ^-^
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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2018, 03:13:46 pm »
I've seen them in Waco.

Around Baylor?
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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2018, 03:16:25 pm »
Around Baylor?

I don't remember.  I'll look next time I go.

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Re: The great exodus out of America’s blue cities
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2018, 03:36:26 pm »
I don't remember.  I'll look next time I go.

Please don't.   I don't want to know.   **nononono*
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