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Mainstream Media Cuts General’s Mic As He Tells the Truth On Syrian Gas Attack
When a military general began asking why Syrian President Assad would intentionally attack his own people when the "Civil War" in his country is ending, his interview was abruptly cut short.
Rachel Blevins — April 14, 2018
 

An interview between Sky News and one of Britain’s former senior military officials on reports of a chemical attack in Syria was cut short when Major-General Jonathan Shaw started to question the logic behind the narrative that the Syrian government would intentionally launch an attack on its own people.

After serving as the commander of the British Armed Forces in Iraq, Major-General Jonathan Shaw has seen a side of the United States’ War on Terror that is hidden from the general public and covered up by the mainstream media.

https://freedomoutpost.com/mainstream-media-cuts-generals-mic-as-he-tells-the-truth-on-syrian-gas-attack/

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“You know, quite apart from all that, the part that seems to be missing from this—and this was actually mentioned by the ambassador—is what possible motive might have triggered Syria to launch a chemical attack at this time in this place?” Shaw replied. “The Syrians are winning, don’t take my word for it, take the American military’s word for it.”

“He said that Assad has won this war, and we need to face that,” Shaw said. “And then last week, you’ve got a Tweet by Trump that America is finished with [the Islamic State] and we’re going to pull out soon, very soon. And then suddenly you have a gas attack…”

Washington then jumped in and cut Shaw off mid-sentence, insisting that they were “out of time” after he had only been speaking for less than one minute. 

Trump is just helping to bring about Obama's plan to oust all the secular dictators in the Middle East so that the Caliphate can come into power.

This screamed false flag the moment it happened.  It makes no logical sense for Assad to goad Americans into staying for a more aggressive effort to end his regime by gassing his own people.

And yet that is what we are told to believe.
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I don't know what to believe here.  We do know that Syria had WMDs, some probably from Iraq and some they developed in Syria.  But - when Trump announces that we are going to leave the area, why would Assad pick that time to do something that would likely change Trump's decision? The Russians want us out of there, Assad wants us out of there, the Chinese want us out of there, and Iran wants us out of there.  Why would Assad, who is working closely with the Russians and more, do something that would almost certainly mean we would stay there?  I don't get it.

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Trump is just helping to bring about Obama's plan to oust all the secular dictators in the Middle East so that the Caliphate can come into power.

This screamed false flag the moment it happened.  It makes no logical sense for Assad to goad Americans into staying for a more aggressive effort to end his regime by gassing his own people.

And yet that is what we are told to believe.

I agree that there is a whole lot here that doesn't make much sense. But Islamist can do some pretty strange things that seem to only make sense to them.

As far as Trump blowing up a few buildings, that is a tiny factor in the larger war there. To the point of only being a political gesture and not a military one. It simply may be to tell Russia you are not and will not have control of this region and nothing more.

So I'm still on the fence on what's going on there. Whatever it is, we're not being told the truth.

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I don't know what to believe here.  We do know that Syria had WMDs, some probably from Iraq and some they developed in Syria.  But - when Trump announces that we are going to leave the area, why would Assad pick that time to do something that would likely change Trump's decision? The Russians want us out of there, Assad wants us out of there, the Chinese want us out of there, and Iran wants us out of there.  Why would Assad, who is working closely with the Russians and more, do something that would almost certainly mean we would stay there?  I don't get it.


Trump would like to get the troops out. Why would the others want us out?


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Trump is just helping to bring about Obama's plan to oust all the secular dictators in the Middle East so that the Caliphate can come into power.

This screamed false flag the moment it happened.  It makes no logical sense for Assad to goad Americans into staying for a more aggressive effort to end his regime by gassing his own people.

And yet that is what we are told to believe.

Assad has used chemical weapons before, so this is nothing new.  Putin has an ever increasing presence over there and when this all happened blamed the Brits.  Why would the Brits use chemical weapons against Assad's people? Trump stated that he wanted to leave Syria and then next thing we know supposedly Assad released chemical weapons.  Nope.  Doesn't make sense at all. Does Bammy or Clinton still have a 'silent presence' over there?  Who would want to bait Trump??
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Assad has used chemical weapons before, so this is nothing new.  Putin has an ever increasing presence over there and when this all happened blamed the Brits.  Why would the Brits use chemical weapons against Assad's people? Trump stated that he wanted to leave Syria and then next thing we know supposedly Assad released chemical weapons.  Nope.  Doesn't make sense at all. Does Bammy or Clinton still have a 'silent presence' over there?  Who would want to bait Trump??

Obama's failures opened the door to Russia to ride and and save the day with Syria. The claim they were going to remove all of Syria's chemical weapons, etc.

This simply may be the West trying to close the door on Russia, but who knows...

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I agree that there is a whole lot here that doesn't make much sense. But Islamist can do some pretty strange things that seem to only make sense to them.

As far as Trump blowing up a few buildings, that is a tiny factor in the larger war there. To the point of only being a political gesture and not a military one. It simply may be to tell Russia you are not and will not have control of this region and nothing more.

So I'm still on the fence on what's going on there. Whatever it is, we're not being told the truth.

And quite likely, never will be.  You have to ask yourself... who had the most to gain from that chem attack?  What motivations were really behind it?  Occam's Razor applies.
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Obama's failures opened the door to Russia to ride and and save the day with Syria. The claim they were going to remove all of Syria's chemical weapons, etc.

This simply may be the West trying to close the door on Russia, but who knows...

Yes, I've thought of that as well; Putin needs to be contained. He's a dangerous player over in the middle east and Trump knows it and also knows that Putin is far from stupid.
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Trump would like to get the troops out. Why would the others want us out?

Why would Assad and the Russians (and the Chinese and Iranians) want us out?  Is that what you are asking?

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I agree that there is a whole lot here that doesn't make much sense. But Islamist can do some pretty strange things that seem to only make sense to them.

Assad is not an Islamist.  The people fighting him are.   Assad's not about to surrender his rule to theocrats governing by Hadiths and strict interpretations of Sharia Law.

As far as Trump blowing up a few buildings, that is a tiny factor in the larger war there.

An act of war is an act of war.  We went to war because three of our buildings were bombed in 2001 by passenger aircraft turned into fuel-air bombs.   

To the point of only being a political gesture and not a military one.

Then we should have considered 9-11 a political gesture and not a military one that required a military response.

It simply may be to tell Russia you are not and will not have control of this region and nothing more.

Assad has been a client state of Russia since the Soviet empire. 

So I'm still on the fence on what's going on there. Whatever it is, we're not being told the truth.

This we agree on.
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Trump is just helping to bring about Obama's plan to oust all the secular dictators in the Middle East so that the Caliphate can come into power.

This screamed false flag the moment it happened.  It makes no logical sense for Assad to goad Americans into staying for a more aggressive effort to end his regime by gassing his own people.

And yet that is what we are told to believe.

I still think this was meant to distract from Trump's legal woes.

But @Frank Cannon says no one cares what I think.   :shrug:
« Last Edit: April 15, 2018, 10:14:22 pm by Applewood »

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I still think this was meant to distract from Trump's legal woes.

But @Frank Cannon says no one cares what I think.   :shrug:

You think Assad gassed Syrians to detract from Trump's legal woes? 

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    A compelling theory explains the latest chemical attack in Syria — and it looks like Assad got what he wanted
    Daniel Brown
        Syrian President Bashar al-Assad may have carried out a chemical attack in Douma, Syria, over failed negotiations between his regime and the main opposition group in the region, Jaysh al-Islam.
        The tactic may have worked in the short term, as Jaysh al-Islam agreed on Sunday to evacuate the area.
        While it can't be said with certainty that Assad's alleged use of chemical weapons on Saturday forced Jaysh al-Islam to evacuate the area, circumstantial evidence indicates this.


    Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has reportedly used chemical weapons on his own people since at least 2013, with a number of attacks coming in the last few months.

    Read more at: http://www.businessinsider.com/why-assad-probably-used-chemical-weapons-syria-2018-4

Might have had a reason.

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Why would Assad and the Russians (and the Chinese and Iranians) want us out?  Is that what you are asking?


Yes. They know we're war weary so they might want to hand us another Vietnam. That could keep us inactive for a long time.


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Yes. They know we're war weary so they might want to hand us another Vietnam. That could keep us inactive for a long time.

They want us out of the Middle East.  We've got plenty of little wars going on without any help from them.  And, if they're trying to do us in by overspending (like Reagan did to the Soviet Union), we've got that covered too.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2018, 10:25:13 pm by Sanguine »

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That OPCW, Organization for the Prevention of Chemical Weapons had its workers arrive in that town over the past 24 hours, they might be able to tell us.

Supposedly, this was dropped from the air, if this is confirmed, then, who has the planes most likely did it. If not?

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Assad is not an Islamist.  The people fighting him are.   Assad's not about to surrender his rule to theocrats governing by Hadiths and strict interpretations of Sharia Law.

87% of Syrians are Muslim. He trained Jihadist in Syria and sent them to kill Americans in Iraq...

An act of war is an act of war.  We went to war because three of our buildings were bombed in 2001 by passenger aircraft turned into fuel-air bombs.   

Do you really want to compare the two?

Then we should have considered 9-11 a political gesture and not a military one that required a military response.

See above... I wasn't saying how Syria/Russia viewed it. I'm just saying taking out a few buildings with few if any people in them is not a very effect military move in an ongoing war.

Assad has been a client state of Russia since the Soviet empire.

Yes, but without Russian bases I believe. Russian bases are a new feature (I could be wrong).

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87% of Syrians are Muslim. He trained Jihadist in Syria and sent them to kill Americans in Iraq...

Assad himself is Muslim.  Same as Sadaam.  Same as Mubarak.  Same as Ghadaffi.  Doing the same kind of stupid terrorist shit his colleagues were doing for decades.

That does not make Assad or any of his dead colleagues Islamists wanting to replace their rule with an Islamic Caliphate run by Imam's.

Do you really want to compare the two?

You said Trump blowing up a few buildings was a 'tiny factor'.  I simply made the point that if anyone blows up our buildings - we would consider it an act of war. Same as our allies.

Are we stupid enough to think Syria and her allies do not consider our action there the same thing - since now we have taken a side against the existing ruler there?

See above... I wasn't saying how Syria/Russia viewed it.

I was, because it is idiotic to think there are not going to be consequences for what was done when Russia has been there on the ground and in the air since long before Trump took office.

I'm just saying taking out a few buildings with few if any people in them is not a very effect military move in an ongoing war.

Then why do it if you do not want to make a military declaration of whose side you are taking in an internal conflict where intel cannot be trusted?

Yes, but without Russian bases I believe. Russian bases are a new feature (I could be wrong).

Since Obama.  Not Trump.  Obama's scribble red line and his ongoing efforts to replace Assad with ISIS and the Caliphate sent Russia right on in there to protect their proxy.

In fact, if memory serves, Russia was making a mockery of Obama's 'war on ISIL'.  I think they administered more damage to ISIS in a week than Obama did in over a year there.
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Sumthin' tells me that IRAN had something considerable to do with the gas attack.
This brought the Israelis into the act, as well.

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In fact, if memory serves, Russia was making a mockery of Obama's 'war on ISIL'.  I think they administered more damage to ISIS in a week than Obama did in over a year there.

I don't differentiate much difference between Muslim and Islamist. I find a Muslim with power/resources becomes an Islamist. While Muslims without power/resources are waiting/scheming to gain power/resources.

I agree, I don't know what the goal was of these strikes. I'm just speculating that it has something to do with Russia's presence in Syria.

And I agree it was Obama who opened the door for much greater involvement by Russia in Syria.

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Assad's allies are Hezbollah and Iran, hardly secular. I think this is why Cruz speaks so much about that Iran deal and tearing it up, it's been helpful to people like Assad. Cruz has said it helps terrorists, you can look it up. That is so. Assad per some stories, helped Al Qaeda, helped build up ISIS.

https://historyxisis.com/2017/01/18/did-assad-really-help-build-isis-an-examination-of-the-evidence/

https://clarionproject.org/us-judge-rules-assad-helped-al-qaeda-kill-americans/

The country has been called a state sponsor of terrorism since 1979, one can look it up.


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With Russia helping Syria so much, it'd be pretty gutsy and easily as far-fetched if not more so, to claim a gas attack and take action on it, right outside of the Syrian capitol of Damascus.  Doesn't one think that?

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You think Assad gassed Syrians to detract from Trump's legal woes?

I didn't say that.

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I didn't say that.

You said:  "I still think this was meant to distract from Trump's legal woes."  So, who were you implying did it?