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Re: FBI raids Trump lawyer's office
« Reply #275 on: April 11, 2018, 02:27:58 pm »
@Smokin Joe

Thanks for taking the time to write your opinion of the government situation in which we find ourselves.  Once again, I'm in the kitchen on little computer.  After a bit of breakfast, I'll be back to my main computer, and will reply to you.  You're a good man, Joe.

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Re: FBI raids Trump lawyer's office
« Reply #276 on: April 11, 2018, 04:01:05 pm »
Just ignore his odd speech pattern and half of what he says and pay attention to what he does, it’s mostly conservative.

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Re: FBI raids Trump lawyer's office
« Reply #277 on: April 11, 2018, 04:02:06 pm »
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Re: FBI raids Trump lawyer's office
« Reply #278 on: April 11, 2018, 04:16:17 pm »
It isn't government's job to put money in my pocket, anyway, just get it the Hell out of the way, and I'll take care of the rest.

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Re: FBI raids Trump lawyer's office
« Reply #279 on: April 11, 2018, 10:42:50 pm »
@Smokin Joe
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I am just getting back to you.  Stuff came up with which I had to deal, but now I'm answering you:
You said:

“What I see as worse, though, is the distraction from major issues, like the Russians threatening to take out the source of any missiles we send to Syria--an implication that they would fire on one of our ships should we become involved over a WMD attack we aren't even sure occurred and an act of war which would be a global game changer, we're worrying about whether Trump paid hush money to an alleged paramour because so far that's the only straw the fishing expedition has been able to grasp."

What you wrote above, is not recognizing the bedrock that feeds the chaos.  Dante’s “Inferno” (known as Hell) has unending fire.  It is Trump and his uncontrolled tweets, and his uncontrolled verbal harangues that keeps the chaos fire going. 
Trump tweeted, April 11, 2018:
“Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!” 

I said before he became president, he would likely start a war because that is the ultimate “winning” he can claim.  After thinking about this, and the situation we are now in with Russia/Putin/Syria/Assad, I believe he will start the ultimate war of Revelation.  The New Jerusalem Bible says:
Isaiah 17:1: “Proclamation about Damascus: Damascus will soon cease to be a city, it will become a heap of ruins. 2 Its towns, abandoned forever, will be pastures for flocks; there they will rest with no one to disturb them.”  As of this date, Damascus is hardly a city anymore.  Here are just two news releases about the Syrian war. We sometimes forget Israel is threatened by Syria and other Muslim countries/cities:

April 9, 2018
“Earlier today, Israel struck the T-4 military air base in Syria’s Homs Governorate. At least seven Iranians including a Colonel died in the attack, according to Iranian media outlets affiliated with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), which set out to retract the articles before releasing full details.
The latest incident follows yet another high-casualty gassing by the Syrian regime against civilian areas in the Damascene suburb of Douma.

Israeli officials have said that they would not tolerate the IRGC’s military buildup in Syria. The Guard Corps’ obsessive calls for Israel’s destruction and support for groups that fight it have made the Syrian build up a top security priority for Israel. At least 14 were reportedly killed in the Israeli strike, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.”
Published on Feb 28, 2018:
“Beit Sawa town in Eastern Ghouta area in Damascus countryside witnessed mass destruction in the civilian properties, especially the medical clinic that destroyed everything inside, due to the Syrian regime airstrikes, in addition to the shelling with artillery.”
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Trump is under pressure due to this new FBI search of his lawyer’s house, office, hotel room.  He is angry and there is Russia and Syria on which to vent his anger and vent it in tacky tweets to the population.  As long as he puts out these tweets, there is chaos every single day – he creates them on purpose to live in chaos.

If you looked back on his behavior, you would understand this.  He was continually in word fights with Hollywood people.  It was his life excitement to do this and it kept him in the public eye.  He had a fake name to call newspapers to tell them what “Trump” was doing so he would be in newspaper constantly.  HE LOVES THE PRESS; does not hate them.  Saying they are fake news, keeps him in their newspapers; keeps him on their TV channels every day.
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“This is how Liberals roll, if they can't have the pool table to themselves, they will find a way to stop the game, spill their beer on the table and jostle the players at every opportunity--only they are doing it with a country. Even those of us who didn't like him as a candidate, some didn't even vote for him, will, out of that conservative principle of fairness give him credit when he gets it right. But what is being done to him, his administration, the American People, and yes, America, too, just isn't fair.”

You are using his words, “fairness”, “fair”, did you realize that?  He says the same words over and over so he can change people’s words.  “fake news” is another one he started and now people use “fake news” over and over.  It is Trump who is destroying the country; he destroys everyone as he believes he is the only one who “counts”.  He has no “empathy” as normal people do.
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Joe, “Words mean things.”  The media of all sorts, use strong words to get people’s attention. This is true no matter the subject.  Regarding weapons: people who don’t know about weapons, likely most of news reporters, have no idea how they work or what the names of the parts are.  “Assault weapon” sounds really, really, bad.  Likely my old Colt 22 revolver, is an “assault weapon” to them.  Plus, the word, “gun” means all weapons to them.  They also don’t know the definition of “bullet”. I pay no attention to what they say, but the public who doesn’t know the difference, are going to believe them.  There is no solution to your problem with how weapons are described, unless a reporter’s college degree requires a “Weapons” course.
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All US Presidents have been maligned  by one group or another.  I don’t see/hear reporters calling Trump unsavory names, however, Trump calls the media, leaders of nations, and everyone on earth all kinds of nasty names.   That is why I gave him the names, “Chaos Trump” and “Little Parade Boy.”  He has insulted the media so much, I’m surprised they haven’t labeled him something terrible, but they have not.  He gives no one respect because he has none to give.
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Joe Bastardi, weatherman extraordinaire, should be crowned “weatherman of the world”.  No one should be allowed to write about weather except Joe.  Al Gore should be required to take a weather course from Joe.  Weather patterns continue through time, which is endless.  Have you thought about that?  There is no beginning of time and no ending of time.  No one dies, either, but that is a book I have started writing.

We need more thinking people like you, Joe.



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Re: FBI raids Trump lawyer's office
« Reply #280 on: April 12, 2018, 04:49:44 am »
@Victoria33 Thank you for the well worded reply, and gentle reminder of Mr. Trump's behaviour well prior to the election. I paid little attention to him before he stepped onto the political stage, because frankly, I remain unimpressed with the vast majority of people (or, more accurately, personas) which are trotted through the limelight, most for a blissfully brief period of time. There have been some who have earned my respect, if the press releases can be believed, but those are not the fare of the endcaps at the checkout line, which I haven't read since BatBoy, for occasional eye rolling amusement.

Aside from a couple of matters  of policy, it was indeed the twitter missives and name calling which caused me to steer away from Trump, and a further examination of what appeared to be a well coordinated and protracted smear campaign against his chief opponent, whom I had been paying attention to for a couple of years. I felt there was a better choice,  and was not a supporter, nor a voter for the current POTUS. In assessing the calculus of the Electoral College, my vote would not matter in the outcome, one way or the other, so I voted for the Candidate whose Party Platform was most closely aligned with my beliefs.
However, that said, my concern is for America, as it has been, and also for those who, unlike the grand dames and wizened veterans of political strife, are just being exposed to the hyperbole, chaos, and lies of modern politics, have to try to sort all of that out, sifting for grains of truth in the endless dungheaps of political commentary.
Thank you for the gentle reminder of that fundamental axiom, "Everything poops".
Perhaps I should not be so concerned as to what is or is not fair to any of the willing participants in the political arena, but more so as to what is or is not fair to those who will live in this country, should it continue to exist, that they will mold by their decisions, their ability to ferret out truth, and, at its core. the philosophies and beliefs that form the foundations of this country, as poorly as they are exposed by media, fable, 'education', and even what passes for history at any but, and perhaps even the most scholarly levels.
Most of those who guided my studies have gone to their reward, and others are close, yet sadly, I find too few who so much as care to learn, instead, caught up in the circus of distractions that have even invaded their phones, and which mine them daily to refine their craft at getting their attention with personally tailored tidbit arrays trotted in front of them. (As an aside, a website I visit uses Google Ads in the sidebar, and occasionally, I will click on something, usually out of innate curiosity as to why, for instance a pair of shoes would have long pointy toes that curl up to knee level. Now I'm bombarded by all sorts of ads when I visit that site, mostly for weird shoes. I just wanted to know why anyone would wear shoes with toes like that and if they were part of some culture long gone, likely because of the offense taken by someone in front of them in line it they raised their foot too high... Some day they'll pop up something else and I can send the ads off on another meaningless tangent.

But perhaps growing up without the constant bombardment of images and often shallow ideas led to more reflective moments, and even more so I credit a rural life where there was little enough to do for entertainment but think, or act on those thoughts. (some of those ideas were 'trouble' to be sure, but much of it all brought us kids one step closer to our creator in appreciation for the subtle intricacies of what went on around us. A river, marsh, woods, and fields, teeming with life, and not a soul to be seen blanketed by a just a sky full of clouds, of stars, and a mere handful of satellites.

But in that all I am reminded that prevarication in pursuit of agendae has not really changed. Nor has the press lost its ability to blow issues out of proportion and distort the seminal facts. The 'Wild West' was as much or more a product of Eastern Magazine writers as fact, and while I do not pretend to know Mr. Cronkite's intentions when he proclaimed in full gravitas, that the United States could not win the War in Vietnam, even as we were winning it and engaged in the conduct of one of the most decisive victories, militarily, of the conflict, the effect was that we didn't lose that war on the battlefields of Southeast Asia, we lost it on the mostly black and white television screens across America.

On reflection, you are right about Mr. Trump's Twitter habit, and certainly, while the response of the mainstream press may be no less and perhaps little more vicious than it has been toward any other officeholder to whom they were politically opposed, in the 'can you top this' world of getting attention (which is what they are paid to do on television--cut to the ad sequence and sell that soap) I find the cross babble and shouting matches and droning talking points of what passes for political discourse tedious at best. I guess we do that here to some degree, I just like to think we do so with a smidgen more class. At least we can use more than 140 characters.

Beneath it all, though,  I think it places us all at a disadvantage, especially against more focused and determined adversaries. The same scatterbrained cognition which often leads to great ideas, products, and life changing technology may well be our undoing if those who should be paying attention to the matters at hand spend too much time engaged in distractions about how shiny missiles are. After the warhead does its job, the finish on the tube is moot, except, if enough remains, to identify the source.

But my question there is simply "How do you destroy an enemies' chemical weapons without releasing the agents you seek to stop them from using, without possibly causing more deaths than the limited deployment of those same weapons already has?".  breaching the casings of those weapons could indeed make the land around Damascus uninhabitable for a time, depending on the agent.

Thanks again, this time for reminding me of the prophesy in Isaiah. A friend brought it up a year or two ago and it had slipped my mind. I guess we all are beset by distractions.
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Re: FBI raids Trump lawyer's office
« Reply #281 on: April 12, 2018, 04:16:27 pm »
@Smokin Joe

I will answer you more fully tonight or in the morning.  The maids will soon be here to clean the house, then we go to a casino.  There is a reason for going there today.

I see a new thread which says a numerologist thinks Christ is coming for Christians on April 23.
If that happens, we can meet in heaven and have a talk while drinking Heaven's wine.  Jesus said he has prepared a place for us.  Also, your good works on earth rack up points for you in heaven.  Based on that, I'm hoping for Duplex housing.  If you get a mansion, we'll meet at your house.

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Re: FBI raids Trump lawyer's office
« Reply #282 on: April 12, 2018, 04:18:49 pm »
@Smokin Joe

I will answer you more fully tonight or in the morning.  The maids will soon be here to clean the house, then we go to a casino.  There is a reason for going there today.

I see a new thread which says a numerologist thinks Christ is coming for Christians on April 23.
If that happens, we can meet in heaven and have a talk while drinking Heaven's wine.  Jesus said he has prepared a place for us.  Also, your good works on earth rack up points for you in heaven.  Based on that, I'm hoping for Duplex housing.  If you get a mansion, we'll meet at your house.
You are too kind. More likely, I'd be cleaning the stables.... :laugh:
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Re: FBI raids Trump lawyer's office
« Reply #283 on: April 12, 2018, 07:42:04 pm »
   It will soon come to pass that #MAGA will mean 'My Attorney Got Arrested'.
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Re: FBI raids Trump lawyer's office
« Reply #284 on: April 12, 2018, 07:56:54 pm »
It will soon come to pass that #MAGA will mean 'My Attorney Got Arrested'.


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« Reply #285 on: April 13, 2018, 02:17:11 am »
I see a new thread which says a numerologist thinks Christ is coming for Christians on April 23.

Jesus is coming!  Look busy!
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« Reply #286 on: April 13, 2018, 02:26:06 am »
Jesus is coming!  Look busy!

April 23rd? Dang it, I gotta finish taxes.
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« Reply #287 on: April 13, 2018, 03:09:32 am »
   I'm ready, I stocked up at Spec's yesterday, bring it on.
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« Reply #288 on: April 13, 2018, 03:14:10 am »
@Smokin Joe

I will answer you more fully tonight or in the morning.  The maids will soon be here to clean the house, then we go to a casino.  There is a reason for going there today.

I see a new thread which says a numerologist thinks Christ is coming for Christians on April 23.
If that happens, we can meet in heaven and have a talk while drinking Heaven's wine.  Jesus said he has prepared a place for us.  Also, your good works on earth rack up points for you in heaven.  Based on that, I'm hoping for Duplex housing.  If you get a mansion, we'll meet at your house.

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