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« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2018, 06:52:37 pm »
Collection plates must not be as filled as they used to be. Parishioners are voting with their feet.



I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2018, 07:05:47 pm »
So why all the raised fists at the GOP?

Because they are an enemy to everything a religious Conservative is supposed to be governed by.  They are simply Democrats pretending to be an opposition party while empowering the Leftists and Statistists with their own stamps of approval.
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Re: 'Concerned' Evangelicals Plan To Meet With Trump As Sex Scandals Swirl
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2018, 07:27:13 pm »
So why all the raised fists at the GOP?

So which upsets you most, betrayal by a foe or a colleague?

That should answer your question.

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« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2018, 09:24:53 pm »
I repeat......... the "Evangelical" church in America (what was left of it) sealed its doom when its "leaders" jumped on board with Donald Trump and excused his inexcusable past (and present) lack of character.

If you want Evangelicalism, go to China to see the Church at work under severe persecution.

Lying in bed with political dogs gets you spiritual fleas.

Africa or any other suppressive government or majority Extremist religious country.

The information about Donald Trump was readily available to Evangelicals.  They sold out to a promise to allow campaigning in the church.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2018, 09:37:01 pm »
I can't speak for anyone else but I try not to single out the GOP.  I see hypocrisy, and lies in every quarter.  I guess it's always been that way but I was gullible in the past.

Because I think a real representative of the people is rare.  A leader, or a person of good moral character.  A person with authentic faith and love of people.  Politicians are a bunch of self serving immoral characters.  They come to your homes and call you on the phone selling their promises they never intend on keeping.  The hidden desire is to serve self not others.  Knowing that there is a price for everything.  If you will just support this bill...............  The people I know were head over heals to vote for Trump.  They didn't care about his immorality.  Why care now?
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: 'Concerned' Evangelicals Plan To Meet With Trump As Sex Scandals Swirl
« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2018, 09:38:03 pm »
So why all the raised fists at the GOP?
My arm got tired, but that wasn't my fist, dear.
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« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2018, 10:17:30 pm »
Because I think a real representative of the people is rare.  A leader, or a person of good moral character.  A person with authentic faith and love of people.  Politicians are a bunch of self serving immoral characters.  They come to your homes and call you on the phone selling their promises they never intend on keeping.  The hidden desire is to serve self not others.  Knowing that there is a price for everything.  If you will just support this bill...............  The people I know were head over heals to vote for Trump.  They didn't care about his immorality.  Why care now?

Aye.

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« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2018, 10:25:25 pm »
Aye.
Too many politicians and not enough statesmen (or women).
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
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« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2018, 12:09:48 am »
Too many politicians and not enough statesmen (or women).

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I like the way you put that!
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« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2018, 01:37:04 am »
I found it rather odd that Cruz announced his run for the presidency at Liberty University, yet Falwell threw his support to Trump and other evangelicals followed his lead.  This was during the time Trump made the crude comment about Megyn Kelly and rumors of Trump's 'locker room' talk evolved.  I have never been able to understand how or why religious (?) leaders would throw support towards Trump with his uncouth demeanor. Trump stated that he didn't need to ask for forgiveness because he never did anything wrong. Really? He also commented about shooting someone on 5th avenue and still having support and stating that he would like to punch a protester int he face.  Yet the evangelicals flocked to him.  Why?  What does that say in general about the moral character of evangelicals?  I can only judge by those evangelicals that I have encountered and how so many evangelicals voted for Trump. Sad.  Very sad.
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Re: 'Concerned' Evangelicals Plan To Meet With Trump As Sex Scandals Swirl
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2018, 02:21:01 am »
I found it rather odd that Cruz announced his run for the presidency at Liberty University, yet Falwell threw his support to Trump and other evangelicals followed his lead.  This was during the time Trump made the crude comment about Megyn Kelly and rumors of Trump's 'locker room' talk evolved.  I have never been able to understand how or why religious (?) leaders would throw support towards Trump with his uncouth demeanor. Trump stated that he didn't need to ask for forgiveness because he never did anything wrong. Really? He also commented about shooting someone on 5th avenue and still having support and stating that he would like to punch a protester int he face.  Yet the evangelicals flocked to him.  Why?  What does that say in general about the moral character of evangelicals?  I can only judge by those evangelicals that I have encountered and how so many evangelicals voted for Trump. Sad.  Very sad.

Bigly promises.  And all that talk about locking up Hillary then Trump honors their presence at his Inauguration lunch.  I know lots of people who really believed he was going to stop Planned Parenthood and abortions.  Look how we just bigly funded it.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2018, 03:33:48 am »
I found it rather odd that Cruz announced his run for the presidency at Liberty University, yet Falwell threw his support to Trump and other evangelicals followed his lead.  This was during the time Trump made the crude comment about Megyn Kelly and rumors of Trump's 'locker room' talk evolved.  I have never been able to understand how or why religious (?) leaders would throw support towards Trump with his uncouth demeanor. Trump stated that he didn't need to ask for forgiveness because he never did anything wrong. Really? He also commented about shooting someone on 5th avenue and still having support and stating that he would like to punch a protester int he face.  Yet the evangelicals flocked to him.  Why?  What does that say in general about the moral character of evangelicals?  I can only judge by those evangelicals that I have encountered and how so many evangelicals voted for Trump. Sad.  Very sad.

Evangelicals should be in quotes. They were "evangelicals" in name only.


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Re: 'Concerned' Evangelicals Plan To Meet With Trump As Sex Scandals Swirl
« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2018, 03:38:13 am »
Evangelicals should be in quotes. They were "evangelicals" in name only.

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Re: 'Concerned' Evangelicals Plan To Meet With Trump As Sex Scandals Swirl
« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2018, 03:52:12 am »
Because they are an enemy to everything a religious Conservative is supposed to be governed by.  They are simply Democrats pretending to be an opposition party while empowering the Leftists and Statistists with their own stamps of approval.

I hope some day you're able to accept you're not getting your hoped-for theocracy. 

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« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2018, 03:54:03 am »
I hope some day you're able to accept you're not getting your hoped-for theocracy.

Really, really lame.

No one here is asking for theocracy here. Zip.

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« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2018, 03:55:41 am »
So which upsets you most, betrayal by a foe or a colleague?


True "principled", "religious" "conservatives" see only foes.  So what's your point?

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« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2018, 03:56:24 am »
Really, really lame.

No one here is asking for theocracy here. Zip.

@INVAR ... to whom I was replying ... surely is.

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« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2018, 04:05:30 am »
I hope some day you're able to accept you're not getting your hoped-for theocracy.

So now you're using time-tested and proven Liberal playbook rebuttals and applying them to moral and political principles you now believe are a liability to the future of the country.

How positively Progressive of you!

And, for the sake of proving your point - please point the board to the post(s) I have made that indicate I want a theocracy to rule the country from the Government on-down.

If you do not, you just illustrate yourself as despicable a liar as your typical Leftist Statist who has to engage in demonizing those who are governed by a morality you despise and demand be discarded for political expediency.


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« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2018, 04:09:25 am »
So now you're using time-tested and proven Liberal playbook rebuttals .... 

Nope.  I'm simply using your words:  "Because they are an enemy to everything a religious Conservative is supposed to be governed by"

You want a Theocracy.  And it's never going to happen.

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« Reply #44 on: April 08, 2018, 04:15:33 am »
Nope.  I'm simply using your words:  "Because they are an enemy to everything a religious Conservative is supposed to be governed by"

You want a Theocracy.  And it's never going to happen.

Thanks for proving yourself a << characterization redacted >> - just like your typical card-carrying Liberal Leftist.

And of course - continuing to illustrate yourself an enemy to everything a religious Conservative is governed by.
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« Reply #45 on: April 08, 2018, 04:22:44 am »
Thanks for proving yourself a lying << characterization redacted >> - just like your typical card-carrying Liberal Leftist.

And of course - continuing to illustrate yourself an enemy to everything a religious Conservative is governed by.

Thanks for not denying you want a Theocracy in America.
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« Reply #46 on: April 08, 2018, 04:27:41 am »
Thanks for not denying you want a Theocracy in America.

When did you stop beating your spouse and kids?
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« Reply #47 on: April 08, 2018, 04:29:08 am »
When did you stop beating your spouse and kids?

Too clever by half.   :smokin:

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« Reply #48 on: April 08, 2018, 04:39:16 am »
Friends!  Focus....

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« Reply #49 on: April 08, 2018, 04:48:23 am »
Nope.  I'm simply using your words:  "Because they are an enemy to everything a religious Conservative is supposed to be governed by"

You want a Theocracy.  And it's never going to happen.

"Governed by" does not mean government... Not really a big surprise you assume it does. "Governed by" means constrained by moral principles. Hence self control. Self control is the very foundation of our constitutional republic. Without it liberty is not possible.