Author Topic: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State  (Read 14591 times)

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline edpc

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14,879
  • Gender: Male
  • Professional Misanthrope - Briefer and Boxer
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #300 on: March 14, 2018, 12:37:10 am »
Trump does have leadership capabilities and has made some good choices here and there, but it is troublesome how many people have either bailed on him or he's fired.


Well, it’s like he said – he can get the top 10 people available for the positions. If he serves an 8 year term, that means they need to stick around for at least 9.6 months.
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

Online DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 45,799
  • Gender: Male
  • "...and the winning number is...not yours!
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #301 on: March 14, 2018, 12:38:27 am »
That begs the question, why did Trump hire someone who was "sabotaging" him?

Well, that's easy.

As an outsider you take into consideration the recommendations of close friends and associates.



"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"Journalism is about covering the news.  With a pillow.  Until it stops moving."    - David Burge (Iowahawk)

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

Offline edpc

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14,879
  • Gender: Male
  • Professional Misanthrope - Briefer and Boxer
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #302 on: March 14, 2018, 02:01:04 am »
Nothing against Pompeo, but if Tillerson had to go, isn’t there another Rex that would be perfect for negotiations with North Korea?


I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

Offline montanajoe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,324
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #303 on: March 14, 2018, 03:27:21 am »
Well I thought I'd drop by to see TBR's take on Tillerson...

As expected its 10.5 of 13 plus pages of the same AT and  NT saying the same thing as in hundreds of other posts ...

As an always and proud NT I'd just make 2 observations...under Tellerson Exxon emerged as the premier global oil company in the world, which no doubt required a CEO able to both manage a vast corporate bureaucracy but to successfully deal with dictators to socialists, as was noted in the glowing reviews when he was nominated. Claims now that he was/is incompetent are idiotic...

Second  Trump has never had any experience with dealing  with anyone who was not working for him and was not on his payroll and serving at his bidding. In the corporate world, as we all know, the guy who has the gold rules. Government service whether civilian or military, is not the same as working for a business. Both those leadership and the peons and grunts take an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States ...not an oath of fidelity to who ever is occupying the office of the executive.

I don't think that is a distinction Trump is capable of understanding, I remember very well another president, about 44 years ago who was unable to grasp the distinction between personal loyalty and loyalty to the Constitution of the United States of America .....it didn't end well... :shrug:

Offline Frank Cannon

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26,097
  • Gender: Male
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #304 on: March 14, 2018, 03:37:58 am »
Well I thought I'd drop by to see TBR's take on Tillerson...

As expected its 10.5 of 13 plus pages of the same AT and  NT saying the same thing as in hundreds of other posts ...

As an always and proud NT I'd just make 2 observations...under Tellerson Exxon emerged as the premier global oil company in the world, which no doubt required a CEO able to both manage a vast corporate bureaucracy but to successfully deal with dictators to socialists, as was noted in the glowing reviews when he was nominated. Claims now that he was/is incompetent are idiotic...

Second  Trump has never had any experience with dealing  with anyone who was not working for him and was not on his payroll and serving at his bidding. In the corporate world, as we all know, the guy who has the gold rules. Government service whether civilian or military, is not the same as working for a business. Both those leadership and the peons and grunts take an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States ...not an oath of fidelity to who ever is occupying the office of the executive.

I don't think that is a distinction Trump is capable of understanding, I remember very well another president, about 44 years ago who was unable to grasp the distinction between personal loyalty and loyalty to the Constitution of the United States of America .....it didn't end well... :shrug:

And I just dropped by to see what a genuinely vapid person had to say to defend an openly Liberal and incompetent Sec of State looking through the lens of Trump Hate. I see not one mention of Tillerson negotiating counter to the Administrations policy on Iran. No mention of the open insult abroad by this ex-CEO about the President of the United States, his boss. No mention about this ex-Sec of States open love for the Soviets while Putin poisons people in Briton and our own US servicemen. All that is off your radar as you hoist this fat piece of shit Tillerson up on your shoulders in celebration because he grew an oil company while oil prices were through the roof.

Thanks for not letting me down.


BassWrangler

  • Guest
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #305 on: March 14, 2018, 03:38:11 am »
Well I thought I'd drop by to see TBR's take on Tillerson...

As expected its 10.5 of 13 plus pages of the same AT and  NT saying the same thing as in hundreds of other posts ...

As an always and proud NT I'd just make 2 observations...under Tellerson Exxon emerged as the premier global oil company in the world, which no doubt required a CEO able to both manage a vast corporate bureaucracy but to successfully deal with dictators to socialists, as was noted in the glowing reviews when he was nominated. Claims now that he was/is incompetent are idiotic...

Second  Trump has never had any experience with dealing  with anyone who was not working for him and was not on his payroll and serving at his bidding. In the corporate world, as we all know, the guy who has the gold rules. Government service whether civilian or military, is not the same as working for a business. Both those leadership and the peons and grunts take an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States ...not an oath of fidelity to who ever is occupying the office of the executive.

I don't think that is a distinction Trump is capable of understanding, I remember very well another president, about 44 years ago who was unable to grasp the distinction between personal loyalty and loyalty to the Constitution of the United States of America .....it didn't end well... :shrug:

In fairness to Tillerson, did he ever have any real authority? It seemed like Trump was constantly undercutting his positions.

Offline edpc

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14,879
  • Gender: Male
  • Professional Misanthrope - Briefer and Boxer
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #306 on: March 14, 2018, 04:17:38 am »
John McEntee...seems he was going to have some issues getting a full security clearance.


@txradioguy

This is probably why he was ushered out so quickly, but they still want him on the campaign team?


Sources close to McEntee, a 27-year-old former football player for the University of Connecticut, said he struggled with a gambling addiction and they believe the investigation may be related.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-s-assistant-out-white-house-heads-campaign-n856196

Talk about a blackmail risk.  We've had a wife beater and gambler removed from Trump's immediate circle.  Is a junkie next?
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

Offline Frank Cannon

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26,097
  • Gender: Male
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #307 on: March 14, 2018, 04:21:36 am »

Talk about a blackmail risk.  We've had a wife beater and gambler removed from Trump's immediate circle.  Is a junkie next?

I got a guy that can plant heroin on Kushner if you can guarantee he goes next.

Offline txradioguy

  • Propaganda NCOIC
  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 23,534
  • Gender: Male
  • Rule #39
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #308 on: March 14, 2018, 11:28:17 am »
In fairness to Tillerson, did he ever have any real authority? It seemed like Trump was constantly undercutting his positions.

That's a question that could be asked about any cabinet position in this administration.
The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

Here lies in honored glory an American soldier, known but to God

THE ESTABLISHMENT IS THE PROBLEM...NOT THE SOLUTION

Republicans Don't Need A Back Bench...They Need a BACKBONE!

Offline aligncare

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 25,916
  • Gender: Male
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #309 on: March 14, 2018, 12:40:56 pm »
As a "rumor", that's a chuckle.

And your "Little Parade Boy", too!

But more than likely, President Trump planned to have the Tillerson firing as a Friday night news dump.  Tillerson asked that it not happen until he was standing on American soil.

We are now learning that the sabotaging by Tillerson in carrying out President Trump's agenda and demands in Iran, among other topics, that Trump accepted Kelly's advice.

....pulling the trigger soon as the wheels touched down.


But to your point..., we fully expect Pres. Trump to accelerate replacements with HIS own people...not those of his advisors/friends.


Donald Trump has made a career out of finding the best people. 

Go ahead...laugh.

A major league ballplayer can be enshrined in the HOF with a career 70% failure rate at the plate.

Someone said, "It's not so much how you played thus far...it's how you finish".   The people around you at the end.

Excellent post! Your observations are spot on!  :beer:

Offline txradioguy

  • Propaganda NCOIC
  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 23,534
  • Gender: Male
  • Rule #39
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #310 on: March 14, 2018, 12:44:14 pm »
The Trumpsplaining is quite entertaining to watch.  Never new some of you could twist yourself into such pretzel like shapes.

Please...continue.

:2popcorn:
The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

Here lies in honored glory an American soldier, known but to God

THE ESTABLISHMENT IS THE PROBLEM...NOT THE SOLUTION

Republicans Don't Need A Back Bench...They Need a BACKBONE!

Offline txradioguy

  • Propaganda NCOIC
  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 23,534
  • Gender: Male
  • Rule #39
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #311 on: March 14, 2018, 12:46:07 pm »

@txradioguy

This is probably why he was ushered out so quickly, but they still want him on the campaign team?


Sources close to McEntee, a 27-year-old former football player for the University of Connecticut, said he struggled with a gambling addiction and they believe the investigation may be related.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-s-assistant-out-white-house-heads-campaign-n856196

Talk about a blackmail risk.  We've had a wife beater and gambler removed from Trump's immediate circle.  Is a junkie next?

@edpc the report on Fox yesterday said they hustled him out of the WH so fast someone had to go back in to get his jacket and told him they'd mail him his personal stuff from his office next week.

But hey...as someone pointed out to fawning praise earlier "Donald Trump has made a career out of finding the best people.  "
The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

Here lies in honored glory an American soldier, known but to God

THE ESTABLISHMENT IS THE PROBLEM...NOT THE SOLUTION

Republicans Don't Need A Back Bench...They Need a BACKBONE!

Offline edpc

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14,879
  • Gender: Male
  • Professional Misanthrope - Briefer and Boxer
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #312 on: March 14, 2018, 12:49:59 pm »
I guess the campaign is a good place for a gambler, betting on Trump to win.
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

Offline INVAR

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11,961
  • Gender: Male
  • Dread To Tread
    • Sword At The Ready
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #313 on: March 14, 2018, 01:31:29 pm »
The Trumpsplaining is quite entertaining to watch.  Never new some of you could twist yourself into such pretzel like shapes.

Please...continue.

Oh look.

They're back to referencing us as liberals.  I guess they're bored with calling us Hillary Supporters, domestic enemies, Marxists, Leftists, terrorists and whatever other antagonistic label they can apply because we refuse to publicly lick Trump's boots and contort themselves into mewling sycophants like they are.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

Offline txradioguy

  • Propaganda NCOIC
  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 23,534
  • Gender: Male
  • Rule #39
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #314 on: March 14, 2018, 01:33:20 pm »
Oh look.

They're back to referencing us as liberals.  I guess they're bored with calling us Hillary Supporters, domestic enemies, Marxists, Leftists, terrorists and whatever other antagonistic label they can apply because we refuse to publicly lick Trump's boots and contort themselves into mewling sycophants like they are.

@INVAR they reached the bottom of the page and had to start from the top again.
The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

Here lies in honored glory an American soldier, known but to God

THE ESTABLISHMENT IS THE PROBLEM...NOT THE SOLUTION

Republicans Don't Need A Back Bench...They Need a BACKBONE!


Offline driftdiver

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9,897
  • Gender: Male
  • I could eat it raw but why when I have fire
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #316 on: March 14, 2018, 01:37:26 pm »
Fools mock, tongues wag, babies cry and goats bleat.

Offline edpc

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14,879
  • Gender: Male
  • Professional Misanthrope - Briefer and Boxer
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #317 on: March 14, 2018, 01:38:07 pm »
Trump is inquiring as to how he can go about using the Agent Smith approach to remaking his cabinet.


! No longer available
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

Offline Formerly Once-Ler

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 0
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #318 on: March 14, 2018, 01:43:25 pm »
Yes that will make you happy.
Shoot the messenger dd. 888high58888

Offline RoosGirl

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16,759
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #319 on: March 14, 2018, 01:46:25 pm »
<>
Removed by MOD

Same bullshit, different day.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2018, 02:08:25 pm by MOD3 »

Offline aligncare

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 25,916
  • Gender: Male
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #320 on: March 14, 2018, 01:57:35 pm »
I guess anti-Trump memes are ok (as witnessed by the paucity of criticism of those) and anti-anti-Trump memes are not.

Offline INVAR

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11,961
  • Gender: Male
  • Dread To Tread
    • Sword At The Ready
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #321 on: March 14, 2018, 02:03:59 pm »
I guess anti-Trump memes are ok (as witnessed by the paucity of criticism of those) and anti-anti-Trump memes are not.

The fun part is watching you snowflakes take the Trump criticisms so personally.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

Offline txradioguy

  • Propaganda NCOIC
  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 23,534
  • Gender: Male
  • Rule #39
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #322 on: March 14, 2018, 02:05:18 pm »
I guess anti-Trump memes are ok (as witnessed by the paucity of criticism of those) and anti-anti-Trump memes are not.

So go into your little Trump only section and pull them out and start posting them.

No one is stopping you.
The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

Here lies in honored glory an American soldier, known but to God

THE ESTABLISHMENT IS THE PROBLEM...NOT THE SOLUTION

Republicans Don't Need A Back Bench...They Need a BACKBONE!

Offline aligncare

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 25,916
  • Gender: Male
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #323 on: March 14, 2018, 02:07:20 pm »
So go into your little Trump only section and pull them out and start posting them.

No one is stopping you.

Thanks for the suggestion. Maybe I’ll take you up on that.

Offline MOD3

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 612
Re: BREAKING:....Tillerson out as Secretary of State
« Reply #324 on: March 14, 2018, 02:08:48 pm »
Stay on topic and stop the insults.