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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #75 on: February 28, 2018, 07:57:30 PM »
He doesn't care because it's Trump doing it

If it's wrong (and it would be).... it shouldn't matter who is doing it or attempting to do it.

Trump jumped the shark on this one.... BIG time.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #76 on: February 28, 2018, 07:58:19 PM »
See Question 11f. of the NICS background check form.

You got me there. Is it "are you crazy?"

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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #77 on: February 28, 2018, 08:00:17 PM »
Man, it is soooooo disappointing that certain Trumpettes are hiding like cowards in the face of this news.

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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #78 on: February 28, 2018, 08:02:08 PM »
Man, it is soooooo disappointing that certain Trumpettes are hiding like cowards in the face of this news.

I need my Trumpsplaining, darn it!

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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #79 on: February 28, 2018, 08:02:09 PM »

I need my Trumpsplaining, darn it!

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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #80 on: February 28, 2018, 08:02:52 PM »
Man, it is soooooo disappointing that certain Trumpettes are hiding like cowards in the face of this news.

I need my Trumpsplaining, darn it!

They're probabbly huddled together strategizing via PM on a unified response to Trumpsplain everything that's happened today.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #81 on: February 28, 2018, 08:04:02 PM »
Man, it is soooooo disappointing that certain Trumpettes are hiding like cowards in the face of this news.

I need my Trumpsplaining, darn it!

What exactly do you need explained? I do take time out of my day to assist drooling knuckle dragging shithooks and the underprivileged.

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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #82 on: February 28, 2018, 08:08:39 PM »
You got me there. Is it "are you crazy?"

Basically people of subnormal intelligence cannot purchase firearms, so your scenario of the "retard" should never happen because they are not allowed to purchase firearms.

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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #83 on: February 28, 2018, 08:11:11 PM »
Basically people of subnormal intelligence cannot purchase firearms....

But you were telling me the other day that you had a gun? What's going on here?

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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #84 on: February 28, 2018, 08:12:17 PM »
They're probabbly huddled together strategizing via PM on a unified response to Trumpsplain everything that's happened today.


Well.....you know how it goes.  He can say all the crazy stuff about due process he wants.  It’s not a problem until he actually violates it.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #85 on: February 28, 2018, 08:17:46 PM »
But you were telling me the other day that you had a gun? What's going on here?

You misunderstood, I said I had a gun in my pocket for you.

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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #86 on: February 28, 2018, 08:20:51 PM »
You misunderstood, I said I had a gun in my pocket for you.

Well people think I carry a concealed rifle in my front pocket.

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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #87 on: February 28, 2018, 08:22:43 PM »
Basically people of subnormal intelligence cannot purchase firearms, so your scenario of the "retard" should never happen because they are not allowed to purchase firearms.

Not all firearms are legally purchased and some times normal people flip out.

Used to be that if someone was crazy a friend, relative, neighbor could file a report, the cops
would come out and interview the subject. If the cops concluded the subject was crazy he/she
would be taken to a mental institution for evaluation. After x amount of time the subject would
appear before a judge and then anything could happen.  See the movie Harvey for an example.

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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #88 on: February 28, 2018, 08:25:10 PM »
You have a mentally retarded, emotionally distressed person making vague threats (not
actionable) to shoot something up. And he has the means to shoot something up. What would
you do? Would you be opposed to taking his firearms from him? Until it can be determined if he
really is a threat to himself and others?

Not an ideal solution with plenty of room for abuse, but it does seem like a common sense thing
to do.

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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #89 on: February 28, 2018, 08:25:13 PM »
Not all firearms are legally purchased and some times normal people flip out.

Used to be that if someone was crazy a friend, relative, neighbor could file a report, the cops
would come out and interview the subject. If the cops concluded the subject was crazy he/she
would be taken to a mental institution for evaluation. After x amount of time the subject would
appear before a judge and then anything could happen.  See the movie Harvey for an example.

I think you're missing the point of your own question.  You asked if a "retard" could have his guns taken away if he was making vague threats.  The answer is yes, he shouldn't have them in the first place.

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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #90 on: February 28, 2018, 08:26:42 PM »
Well people think I carry a concealed rifle in my front pocket.

Is it because you walk with one knee locked?

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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #91 on: February 28, 2018, 08:28:27 PM »
No, you'll let THEM define crazy.

Only a crazy person would want to buy an AR15, therefore, you are labeled crazy and your purchase is denied... Goodnight.

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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #93 on: February 28, 2018, 08:29:37 PM »
Well people think I carry a concealed rifle in my front pocket.

@Frank Cannon @RoosGirl

Despite what Frank thinks a .22 short is not much of a rifle round.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #94 on: February 28, 2018, 08:32:07 PM »

Well.....you know how it goes.  He can say all the crazy stuff about due process he wants.  It’s not a problem until he actually violates it.

Think about it as eminent gun domain. The government needs your gun, therefore it will take it, for the good of soc iety. He has already shown through a long history he cares little for private property rights, so what's one more little piece of privately owned metal.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #95 on: February 28, 2018, 08:33:20 PM »
Yep Trump really gave it to us good this time didn't he?

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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #96 on: February 28, 2018, 08:40:24 PM »
Trump has changed his mind (flip flopped) on quite a few issues.   The AWB is just one of them.
Trump who was and still laughingly is touted as being a non politician, proved from the second he announced his candidacy to be the consummate politician doing and saying whatever people wanted to hear to advance himself. Right now he is happy to throw gun owners to the wolves to court the left, or to cover his butt from outrage over Parkland, even at TOS he has lost probably 50% of his defenders over his new or is it old position on guns.

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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #97 on: February 28, 2018, 08:46:18 PM »
Trump who was and still laughingly is touted as being a non politician, proved from the second he announced his candidacy to be the consummate politician doing and saying whatever people wanted to hear to advance himself. Right now he is happy to throw gun owners to the wolves to court the left, or to cover his butt from outrage over Parkland, even at TOS he has lost probably 50% of his defenders over his new or is it old position on guns.

He's been on the job for over a year now.  I think he qualifies as a bonafide politician now.  Only problem is.... he has a tendency to say stuff that alarms or pisses off half of the nation... and it is a very random thought process as to which side he pisses off at any given moment.  I just don't think he thinks that much about what he says before he says it.  Not bright at all, IOW.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #98 on: February 28, 2018, 08:52:12 PM »
So imagine this (nightmare) scenario.   The left manages to forego/eliminate due process when it comes to disarming "potential" threats, such as teens like Cruz.  What's to keep them from going a step further and disarming the parents of any 'troubled teen' that they have identified as a potential future "shooter"?  After all, Lanza got his guns from his mother .... before he shot her.  It would be open season on gun owners if this precedent (that Trump just presented) was allowed to become reality.

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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #99 on: February 28, 2018, 08:57:59 PM »
Not all firearms are legally purchased and some times normal people flip out.

Used to be that if someone was crazy a friend, relative, neighbor could file a report, the cops
would come out and interview the subject. If the cops concluded the subject was crazy he/she
would be taken to a mental institution for evaluation. After x amount of time the subject would
appear before a judge and then anything could happen.  See the movie Harvey for an example.

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First of all the cops aren't qualified to ascertain or determine if someone is crazy, if they did they would have to lock up half their brethren. And it's sad that you think, like Trump that's OK to strip someone of their property/guns without due process because someone that may have grudge makes an accusation. We already have tons of laws(hyperbole, it's only pounds) of laws on the books to deal with guns and psychos. The problem, just like with immigration, is the failure of the schools, social services, law enforcement..........all the people, supposed professionals we pay to keep us safe to act on and enforce the law. And now foolish people think that more infringement of our rights and persecution of gun owners will eliminate the failures of the people that are supposed to protect us.

your very first sentence "Not all firearms are legally purchased " is the very proof that more laws and more restrictions on honest law abiding citizens are ridiculous. Just like wealthy liberals are more than welcome to pay more taxes if they want, you and those that think like you are more than welcome to restrict your own Second Amendment rights, just leave mine alone!

Oh and good move using a fantasy movie to prove your point


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