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Oh well..

I agree.  Especially when you look at what it takes to make the batteries for those things.
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I agree.  Especially when you look at what it takes to make the batteries for those things.


I always laugh at those pushing things like electric cars, solar panels, and wind turbines as green.  They obviously don't understand the process and industrial waste that goes into making them.
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Just when I start to warm up to the GOP again, they pass a massive spending bill, and start talking about raising taxes.

In the meantime, its been 13 months. No wall yet and Hillary runs free.


IMO......i's like warming up to a rattlesnake.  Oh sure... it looks so pretty and glittery from a distance... but the closer you get to it, the uglier the snake appears.... and the chances of getting bit get real. 

The GOP has been compromised by the radical left.  They do not now represent (nor have they ever really represented) Conservative values OR Conservatism.  They are just the 'other' party with the same skin.

Passing another tax, whether a gas tax or whatever, is what the Democrats would do.... as it is the equivalent of the Government giveth and the Government taketh away (targeted tax increases vs. across the board increases).  Another smoke and mirrors game... that would make the ignorant that do not drive 'think' they dodged the tax bullet.... which is BS.
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Just when I start to warm up to the GOP again, they pass a massive spending bill, and start talking about raising taxes.

In the meantime, its been 13 months. No wall yet and Hillary runs free.

Yes, you summed things up quite nicely!
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Everyone eat beans!  :silly:

(Sorry, in a silly mood)

 :silly: :rolling:  Heck of an idea! 
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I also think that those who drive electric cars should start paying a tax.

Don't be crazy. 

My daughter has a long commute to her school every day.  She just bought a Prius ... this is her third one.  It get 50 mpg. 

She probably already paid more than for a similar gas user. 
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Everyone eat beans!  :silly:

(Sorry, in a silly mood)


Perhaps not as far-fetched as you might think...

VIENNA WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT TO USE SEWAGE GAS FOR POWER GENERATION

https://www.processingmagazine.com/vienna-wastewater-treatment-plant-to-use-sewage-gas-for-power-generation/
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I agree.  Especially when you look at what it takes to make the batteries for those things.

It's hilarious.... since those driving those "clean energy" vehicles are apparently clueless about the hazards of the batteries that will pollute the earth some day.  They actually think they are saving the planet...lol.  Same kind of ignorance behind those light bulbs containing mercury.  Sheer ssdd liberal stupidity, IOW.
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The GOP has been compromised by the radical left.  They do not now represent (nor have they ever really represented) Conservative values OR Conservatism.  They are just the 'other' party with the same skin.

I arrived at that final conclusion in 2014.  It's been a real eye opener in terms of those who we used to assume were fellow Conservatives - reveal they are nothing but big government party hacks themselves as long as it's their guy and party running the show.

As has been said myriad times, the GOP needs to go the way of the Whigs or simply be folded into the Democrat Party where it truly belongs.

Conservatives have been rendered political irrelevant, and will remain so as long as it hitches itself to the shell game the Oligarchy beguiles them into playing, while working feverishly to destroy any viability to effect policy or the culture we have.

I am convinced that as the hatred for biblical Christianity grows in this country - so too will the hatred grow towards anyone espousing Constitutional Conservatism, since the two are usually linked.  What Mitch McConnell vowed to do to Conservatives in 2014 should have been the wake-up call that the Republican party HATES Conservatives as much as or more than the Democrats do.

And this is the result of a voter base that refuses to see the truth when it is right in front of their face.
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Makes sense to me.   The combination of the tax bill and the recent Congressional compromise to spend more on defense and domestic priorities threatens to blow a hole in the deficit.  If we want to fix roads and bridges we have be able to pay for it.   The federal gas tax is a simple and fair way to get the revenue needed.
Sure by putting more of the onus on those least able to pay for it , those who can't afford new or even fairly new more efficient vehicles, but then that's how socialism always works by crapping on the little guy. But hey it's for the greater good.........right?

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[...] those who can't afford new or even fairly new more efficient vehicles [...]

I dunno... You ever tried to put two cords of wood into a Prius?
Or even a newer than 80's 3/4 or 1T pickup?
Some things ain't worth doing.

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I dunno... You ever tried to put two cords of wood into a Prius?
Or even a newer than 80's 3/4 or 1T pickup?
Some things ain't worth doing.


Will two chords of music even fit?
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Those who use public roads should pay for them, including those who get their supplies transported over them. The required maintenance of a road has a lot to do with the weight of the vehicles that travel over it. Electric cars are heavier than similar sized petroleum fueled cars. Electric cars don't begin to pay their fair share of road costs.

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Will two chords of music even fit?

There once was a man from Boston
Who went out and bought him an Austin
He had room for his ass
and a gallon of gas...

That ol limerick needs an update. But nothing rhymes with Prius.

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There once was a man from Boston
Who went out and bought him an Austin
He had room for his ass
and a gallon of gas...

That ol limerick needs an update. But nothing rhymes with Prius.

Best I could come up with on short notice:


There once were loons who bought the Prius
who thought everyone will envy who sees us
pumping gas is a crime
while they live off our dime
and there is no one with sense left to free us
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Best I could come up with on short notice:


There once were loons who bought the Prius
who thought everyone will envy who sees us
pumping gas is a crime
while they live off our dime
and there is no one with sense left to free us


 :silly:

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Everyone eat beans!  :silly:

(Sorry, in a silly mood)
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You sure you want cheap gas and not just hot air?  :rolling: :silly:


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There once was a man from Boston
Who went out and bought him an Austin
He had room for his ass
and a gallon of gas...

That ol limerick needs an update. But nothing rhymes with Prius.

There once was a man from Boston
Who drove around in an Austin.
The man was tall
But the car was small
And his balls hung out and he lost 'em.

There once was a man from Machias
Who drove around in a Prius
The car used no gas
And was slow as an ass,
So he begged: "From this lunacy, free us!"

 
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There once was a man named Cyrus
who ditched his Accord for a Prius
He'd tell us we're old
leaving us in the cold
but his new toy can never get by us!
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Don't be crazy. 

My daughter has a long commute to her school every day.  She just bought a Prius ... this is her third one.  It get 50 mpg. 

She probably already paid more than for a similar gas user.
In road taxes? Don't be silly, the Prius puts just as many pounds on the road per mile as a non hybrid, and non hybrids weren't taxpayer subsidized either. A tesla has a curb weight of 5440 lbs and pays no gas/road tax is taxpayer subsidized at purchase and also at some charging stations, a dodge charger V8 has a curb weight of 4400 pounds gets 25 mpg and no taxpayer subsidies. Which one causes more road wear and also pays no gas tax to help maintain the roads it ads wear too?

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Title:
"Republicans consider the unthinkable: A gas tax increase to pay for infrastructure"

Memo to Republicans:
Take off your thought-repellant hats and learn a little from Pennsylvania.

A few years' back, PA had a Republican legislature and a Republican governor.
The Republican governor (forget his name) pushed through a huge gas tax increase, in the interest of improving the highway infrastructure.

Come the next election, there wasn't no Republican governor no mo' ...

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Those who use public roads should pay for them, including those who get their supplies transported over them. The required maintenance of a road has a lot to do with the weight of the vehicles that travel over it. Electric cars are heavier than similar sized petroleum fueled cars. Electric cars don't begin to pay their fair share of road costs.

I was recently thinking that a tire tax might make more sense than a gas tax.  The more wear on your tires, the more wear on the road.

It's far from perfect, but probably a lot more accurate overall than a tax on a gallon of gas.
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It's far from perfect, but probably a lot more accurate overall than a tax on a gallon of gas.

Well between that idea and the Republicans looking at a tax on each mile traveled to squeeze more money out of us - (WITH a gas tax that will remain in some capacity of not in total) is a given in this new era of Statist Big Government that both parties now champion together.
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