Author Topic: Republicans consider the unthinkable: A gas tax increase to pay for infrastructure  (Read 4088 times)

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Offline InHeavenThereIsNoBeer

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I've spent most of my life in places where I drive quite a ways daily, in TX, NM, and now CA, and I'm still not sure what the answer is for the road use tax.  A mileage tax makes the most sense to me, because it affects people in electric and hybrid as well as gas vehicles.  But it is regressive, and people who pay less for housing outside the city then have to pay more to commute.  Here in the Los Angeles area, housing is so expensive that working class people often have to travel long distances to work. 

One thing that always surprises me, is how few people here carpool.

In the DC area, there is a concept known as "slugging".  Basically, drivers pick up "slugs" to give them access to the HOV lanes.

http://www.virginiadot.org/travel/how-virginians-slug-more.asp
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If you bother to read the article Trump isn't proposing this tax. It's your white bread pals in the Chamber of Commerce. You know. The guys who back all of your favorite candidates.

Are you sure Trump doesn't support this idea?  Have any of our so-called journalists bothered to ask? 

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I've spent most of my life in places where I drive quite a ways daily, in TX, NM, and now CA, and I'm still not sure what the answer is for the road use tax.  A mileage tax makes the most sense to me, because it affects people in electric and hybrid as well as gas vehicles.  But it is regressive, and people who pay less for housing outside the city then have to pay more to commute.  Here in the Los Angeles area, housing is so expensive that working class people often have to travel long distances to work. 

One thing that always surprises me, is how few people here carpool.
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I agree it is simple, as it forces oil companies to be the tax collectors.  No tax should ever to hidden like that,  One reason I would never favor a VAT.

Fair?

In what way is that fair to people who utilize the highways for their job?

There is zero chance that any added taxes would be targeted for infrastructure anyway.  It doesn't happen now as it simply goes into the general kitty, so why should it be for the new taxes?
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One could pretty easily argue that everyone benefits from public roads even if they don't have a car. Nearly all the food and other supplies they use are transported over them.

The gas tax isn't a very accurate indicator of the roads required maintenance costs relative to the vehicle the gas is going into.

I'm not very fond of a mileage tax. It gives incentives to hack the odometer to cheat the tax man. It also doesn't discriminate on where those miles were driven. How much on private property, how much in another state or tax district. It will lead to GPS tracking of all cars so that the car is taxed "properly" no matter where it goes... And with that any privacy on your movements. And then insurance companies will demand access to the data so that people who drive fast, go to higher risk areas, etc. can be billed accordingly... The law of unexpected consequences...

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One other note... Illegals and similar can avoid the mileage tax by simply doing what they already do, ignore the law. It would be just another benefit to them.

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