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House Freedom Caucus opposes GOP budget proposal
« on: February 08, 2018, 01:19:01 pm »
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The conservative House Freedom Caucus (HFC) on Wednesday came out in opposition to the GOP's budget proposal that raises debt limits and does away with government spending caps.

The caucus tweeted its official position against the measure, citing the bipartisan Senate deal's massive expansion of the federal government.

"Official position: HFC opposes the caps deal. We support funding our troops, but growing the size of government by 13 percent is not what the voters sent us here to do," the caucus said.

I'm glad to see this.  How can any true conservative support this level of spending, much less sign it into law (assuming it passes)?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-freedom-caucus-opposes-gop-budget-proposal/ar-BBIPVwT
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Re: House Freedom Caucus opposes GOP budget proposal
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2018, 02:06:24 pm »
This is not a budget.  It is simply another proposal to fund the government with limited exceptions.

Until we get a Congress willing to actually spell out what costs we should be funding or not, this is Kabuki theater run by McConnell and Ryan.
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Re: House Freedom Caucus opposes GOP budget proposal
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2018, 02:12:36 pm »
This is not a budget.  It is simply another proposal to fund the government with limited exceptions.

Until we get a Congress willing to actually spell out what costs we should be funding or not, this is Kabuki theater run by McConnell and Ryan.

It's a budget proposal as noted in the OP.
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Re: House Freedom Caucus opposes GOP budget proposal
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2018, 02:15:27 pm »
This is not a budget.  It is simply another proposal to fund the government with limited exceptions.

Until we get a Congress willing to actually spell out what costs we should be funding or not, this is Kabuki theater run by McConnell and Ryan.

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For the first time in a LONG time the House actually passed a budget this year and sent it to the senate where it resides without action!  I think Ryan is not the culprit this time!
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Re: House Freedom Caucus opposes GOP budget proposal
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2018, 02:15:32 pm »
Will their opposition be enough? I respect and support their opposition. But the writing is already on the wall where this is heading
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Re: House Freedom Caucus opposes GOP budget proposal
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2018, 05:27:06 pm »
It's a budget proposal as noted in the OP.
You can call it a budget if you like, but it is not.

A budget is one which discretely looks at expenditures during the course of the year.  This 'budget', besides being more than a year, is more of continuing resolution of expenditures from prior years.

All these departments made requests to be included within the budget.  Little real work has been done by Congress to investigate the worthwhileness of the expenditures.

At the very least, any item within the budget should have a remark by Congress on its constitutional basis; if it does not contain, it should be discarded.

To demonstrate how laughable this 'budget' is considered by Congress, a 'cut' in the budget merely means that approval is made of a lower number not from prior years, but of the requested amount of the department which may be much higher than last year. In other words, a 'cut' can actually increase the budget.  Only in DC.

That is asinine and indicative of how we have become a top-heavy bureaucratic nation instead of a republic nation, and why we have a runaway debt we have to service.
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Re: House Freedom Caucus opposes GOP budget proposal
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2018, 05:38:24 pm »
You can call it a budget if you like, but it is not.

A budget is one which discretely looks at expenditures during the course of the year.  This 'budget', besides being more than a year, is more of continuing resolution of expenditures from prior years.

All these departments made requests to be included within the budget.  Little real work has been done by Congress to investigate the worthwhileness of the expenditures.

At the very least, any item within the budget should have a remark by Congress on its constitutional basis; if it does not contain, it should be discarded.

To demonstrate how laughable this 'budget' is considered by Congress, a 'cut' in the budget merely means that approval is made of a lower number not from prior years, but of the requested amount of the department which may be much higher than last year. In other words, a 'cut' can actually increase the budget.  Only in DC.

That is asinine and indicative of how we have become a top-heavy bureaucratic nation instead of a republic nation, and why we have a runaway debt we have to service.

I simply quoted "The Hill" article that noted it was a "budget proposal".  Perhaps you like the President's term better:  "Budget Agreement" (which is also what Breitbart called it):

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Re: House Freedom Caucus opposes GOP budget proposal
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2018, 08:56:09 pm »
I'm glad to see this.  How can any true conservative support this level of spending, much less sign it into law (assuming it passes)?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-freedom-caucus-opposes-gop-budget-proposal/ar-BBIPVwT

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Re: House Freedom Caucus opposes GOP budget proposal
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2018, 11:36:14 pm »
In view of this "proposal", the "1% reduction alternative" that Rand Paul introduced a few days' back doesn't seem that bad, after all...

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Re: House Freedom Caucus opposes GOP budget proposal
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2018, 04:30:09 pm »
I simply quoted "The Hill" article that noted it was a "budget proposal".  Perhaps you like the President's term better:  "Budget Agreement" (which is also what Breitbart called it):
At the very best, it is a supplement to spending.

It simply raises what we already were spending without a budget to a higher level without a budget.  It does NOT fund the government, just authorizes more spending.

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